by The Greater Low Countries » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:57 pm
by USS Monitor » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:04 pm
by Grinning Dragon » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:20 pm
by Cappuccina » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:22 pm
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:23 pm
by Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:35 pm
by Cappuccina » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:55 pm
Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:Abortion should be legal for any reason the pregnant person wishes.
by The South Falls » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:58 pm
by Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:59 pm
by Firaxin » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:03 pm
Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:Cappuccina wrote:No, absolutely not. Unless it's for a very good medical reason.
Why not? It’s not up to me or anyone else if someone should get end a pregnancy. A “fetus having a soul” is not a logical and scientific reason why a person should not be able to end a pregnancy. They will have to be the one’s dealing with it, not anyone else.
If you don’t like abortion, don’t have one. Simple.
by Godular » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:07 pm
by Hakons » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:10 pm
by Cappuccina » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:11 pm
Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:Cappuccina wrote:No, absolutely not. Unless it's for a very good medical reason.
Why not? It’s not up to me or anyone else if someone should get end a pregnancy. A “fetus having a soul” is not a logical and scientific reason why a person should not be able to end a pregnancy. They will have to be the one’s dealing with it, not anyone else.
If you don’t like abortion, don’t have one. Simple.
by Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:12 pm
Firaxin wrote:Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
Why not? It’s not up to me or anyone else if someone should get end a pregnancy. A “fetus having a soul” is not a logical and scientific reason why a person should not be able to end a pregnancy. They will have to be the one’s dealing with it, not anyone else.
If you don’t like abortion, don’t have one. Simple.
Why not? It's not up to me or any other citizen if the state should exterminate the Jews. Jews being people isn't a logical and scientific reason why the state should not exterminate the jews. They will have to be the one's dealing with their evil, not anyone else.
If you don't like the extermination of the jews, don't kill them. Simple.
by Cappuccina » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:13 pm
by Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:15 pm
Hakons wrote:Supporting abortion based on disabilities is plain eugenics. It is a moral evil, and anyone who supports it might as well go to the nearest disabled person and shout: "I wish you were dead!"
by Godular » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:15 pm
by Olthar » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:16 pm
by Hakons » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:18 pm
by Ryanasic » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:26 pm
by Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:27 pm
Hakons wrote:Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
Fetus =/= humans that have been born.
Sorry, you would say "I wish you were never even born!" Of course, that sounds worse to me. When you advocate for aborting disabled fetuses, you're saying diasbled people should have been aborted. Presumably because they're lesser than you, or something.
by Cappuccina » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:27 pm
Godular wrote:Cappuccina wrote:Most pregnancies in 1st world nations are not immediately life threatening, potentially yes, but nowhere near the norm.
The risk of potentially debilitating/lethal complications remains nonzero, and as such the threat remains. I think you will also find that pregnancy related mortality rates in the US have been experiencing something of an uptick lately.
by Communaccord » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:27 pm
by Godular » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:29 pm
Cappuccina wrote:Godular wrote:
The risk of potentially debilitating/lethal complications remains nonzero, and as such the threat remains. I think you will also find that pregnancy related mortality rates in the US have been experiencing something of an uptick lately.
This isn't the 1800s, until pregnancies become a virtual death sentence again, I see no reason to have on-demand abortions.
by Cappuccina » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:36 pm
Godular wrote:Cappuccina wrote:This isn't the 1800s, until pregnancies become a virtual death sentence again, I see no reason to have on-demand abortions.
So long as the person does not wish to take the risks, it is neither your business nor right to decide for another person how their body is used or what 'risks' they should undertake. You're right, this isn't the 1800s. This is an era that is a great deal more enlightened and egalitarian than those times were, and I'd like to think that we've graduated beyond that degree of autocracy.
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