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Postby Federal Syndicalist States » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:59 am

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Federal Syndicalist States wrote:I mean it's not as if there's a 100% east asian gene group, spreaded around, made them east asian and if you don't have it you're disqualified from being one.


Mate, Uyghurs are Central Asian. It's not the same thing.

Find me a genuine bonified red-haired East Asian from the Orient, or a red-haired aboriginal from the Americas, and I'll shut up. Otherwise, don't back up the arguments of people who obviously don't know what they're talking about.

Again, they live in East Asia so yeah. They're East Asians.
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Postby Torrocca » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:59 am

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Ifreann wrote:The Geographic distribution tab. The link is right there.


Mate, them living in Xinjiang makes them about as genetically East Asian as me living in North America makes be genetically Amerindian.

I read the captions, so I know where those people are from. That's how I know that the Uyghur child is a girl, so clearly this I know better what I'm talking about than you. I didn't think you wanted specifically red heads from those groups, I assumed you'd be satisfied with red heads from groups people don't usually associate with red hair.

But if that's what you want then feel free to Google it and interrogate the ancestry of all the people who pop up.


Woopidy doo, I mistook her gender.

You, on the other hand, don't know what an Uyghur is. You made the claim that red hair is present everywhere. Either back up your claim, or recant it.


FYI the Turkic peoples all started from a genetic group in East Asia roughly alongside the Mongols.
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Postby UniversalCommons » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:01 am

Europeans are inseperable from Eurasians which includes Russians and a variety of Asian cultures like the Mongols who went everywhere. There is actual genetic history which is very different than the fascist content. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_Europe
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:05 am

Canadensia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The Geographic distribution tab. The link is right there.


Mate, them living in Xinjiang makes them about as genetically East Asian as me living in North America makes be genetically Amerindian.

As I said, I wasn't looking for an East Asian person. I checked the geographic distribution on Wikipedia and linked the images.

I read the captions, so I know where those people are from. That's how I know that the Uyghur child is a girl, so clearly this I know better what I'm talking about than you. I didn't think you wanted specifically red heads from those groups, I assumed you'd be satisfied with red heads from groups people don't usually associate with red hair.

But if that's what you want then feel free to Google it and interrogate the ancestry of all the people who pop up.


Woopidy doo, I mistook her gender.

Because you didn't read the link.

You, on the other hand, don't know what an Uyghur is.

I know who the Uyghurs are. I can't say I know what your personal criterion for any given race is, but I don't care.
You made the claim that red hair is present everywhere. Either back up your claim, or recant it.

I have already linked to the relevant section of the relevant Wikipedia article. Do you need help reading it?
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Postby Canadensia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:16 am

Federal Syndicalist States wrote:
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Mate, Uyghurs are Central Asian. It's not the same thing.

Find me a genuine bonified red-haired East Asian from the Orient, or a red-haired aboriginal from the Americas, and I'll shut up. Otherwise, don't back up the arguments of people who obviously don't know what they're talking about.

Again, they live in East Asia so yeah. They're East Asians.


Not genetically, no.

Which is the point.

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Postby Canadensia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:17 am

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Mate, them living in Xinjiang makes them about as genetically East Asian as me living in North America makes be genetically Amerindian.



Woopidy doo, I mistook her gender.

You, on the other hand, don't know what an Uyghur is. You made the claim that red hair is present everywhere. Either back up your claim, or recant it.


FYI the Turkic peoples all started from a genetic group in East Asia roughly alongside the Mongols.


Yes, and yet we typically don't consider them East Asian.

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Postby Federal Syndicalist States » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:21 am

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Federal Syndicalist States wrote:Again, they live in East Asia so yeah. They're East Asians.


Not genetically, no.

Which is the point.

Find me a 100% genetically pure East Asian then.
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Postby Canadensia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:21 am

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Mate, them living in Xinjiang makes them about as genetically East Asian as me living in North America makes be genetically Amerindian.

As I said, I wasn't looking for an East Asian person. I checked the geographic distribution on Wikipedia and linked the images.


Then why post them at all if you knew they were neither East Asian nor Amerindian?

Because you didn't read the link.


No, I didn't. What of it?

You didn't link me to any East Asians or Amerindians with red hair, hence my point.

I know who the Uyghurs are. I can't say I know what your personal criterion for any given race is, but I don't care.


I never mentioned races.

I mentioned East Asians and Amerindians, neither of which have red hair. You asserted otherwise.

Defend your claim or renounce it.

I have already linked to the relevant section of the relevant Wikipedia article. Do you need help reading it?


Nowhere in the article does it state that East Asians or Amerindians have red hair.

Do you need help reading it?

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Postby Canadensia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:23 am

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Not genetically, no.

Which is the point.

Find me a 100% genetically pure East Asian then.


What?

I'm not arguing in favour of races, I'm arguing about ethnic groups.

Find me an ethnic East Asian or Amerindian with red hair. There's millions of them, so if one exists with red hair, this should be an easy feat. If you can't, then kindly bugger off.

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Postby Torrocca » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:25 am

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Torrocca wrote:
FYI the Turkic peoples all started from a genetic group in East Asia roughly alongside the Mongols.


Yes, and yet we typically don't consider them East Asian.


I mean, maybe you don't, but there's plenty who do.

Beyond that, here's a muthafuckin' ginger Asian to satiate your weird desires for the red-heads:

Image

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Postby Federal Syndicalist States » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:25 am

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Federal Syndicalist States wrote:Find me a 100% genetically pure East Asian then.


What?

I'm not arguing in favour of races, I'm arguing about ethnic groups.

Find me an ethnic East Asian or Amerindian with red hair. There's millions of them, so if one exists with red hair, this should be an easy feat. If you can't, then kindly bugger off.

Someone posted an Uyghur earlier, that's an East Asian. They live in East Asia, so there you go. I mean of course you could keep asking for a 100% Han Chinese but you know, our resources are limited.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:28 am

Canadensia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:As I said, I wasn't looking for an East Asian person. I checked the geographic distribution on Wikipedia and linked the images.


Then why post them at all if you knew they were neither East Asian nor Amerindian?

Ifreann wrote:I didn't think you wanted specifically red heads from those groups, I assumed you'd be satisfied with red heads from groups people don't usually associate with red hair.



Because you didn't read the link.


No, I didn't. What of it?

You didn't link me to any East Asians or Amerindians with red hair, hence my point.

I know who the Uyghurs are. I can't say I know what your personal criterion for any given race is, but I don't care.


I never mentioned races.

I mentioned East Asians and Amerindians, neither of which have red hair. You asserted otherwise.

Defend your claim or renounce it.

I have already linked to the relevant section of the relevant Wikipedia article. Do you need help reading it?


Nowhere in the article does it state that East Asians or Amerindians have red hair.

Do you need help reading it?

This is what I said.
Ifreann wrote:Red hair is present but rare all over the world.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair# ... ern_Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair# ... ern_Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair# ... iterranean
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#Asia_(all_regions)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair# ... ran_Africa

There, all over the world. Claim defended.
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Postby Canadensia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:29 am

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Canadensia wrote:
Yes, and yet we typically don't consider them East Asian.


I mean, maybe you don't, but there's plenty who do.

Beyond that, here's a muthafuckin' ginger Asian to satiate your weird desires for the red-heads:

-snip-

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That kid's Central Asian.

Did you just see squinty eyes and assume he was Oriental?

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Postby Torrocca » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:32 am

Canadensia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I mean, maybe you don't, but there's plenty who do.

Beyond that, here's a muthafuckin' ginger Asian to satiate your weird desires for the red-heads:

-snip-

:V


That kid's Central Asian.

Did you just see squinty eyes and assume he was Oriental?

:c


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Postby Canadensia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:33 am

Federal Syndicalist States wrote:
Canadensia wrote:
What?

I'm not arguing in favour of races, I'm arguing about ethnic groups.

Find me an ethnic East Asian or Amerindian with red hair. There's millions of them, so if one exists with red hair, this should be an easy feat. If you can't, then kindly bugger off.

Someone posted an Uyghur earlier, that's an East Asian. They live in East Asia, so there you go. I mean of course you could keep asking for a 100% Han Chinese but you know, our resources are limited.


Geographically, sure.

Ethnically? No, I don't think so. Unless of course you're going to tell me with a straight face that this man is ethnically Shona or Matebele by virtue of being born in Zimbabwe:

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There's in excess of a billion ethnic Han Chinese in the world.

Find me one ginger, just one.

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Postby Federal Syndicalist States » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:34 am

Canadensia wrote:
Federal Syndicalist States wrote:Someone posted an Uyghur earlier, that's an East Asian. They live in East Asia, so there you go. I mean of course you could keep asking for a 100% Han Chinese but you know, our resources are limited.


Geographically, sure.

Ethnically? No, I don't think so. Unless of course you're going to tell me with a straight face that this man is ethnically Shona or Matebele by virtue of being born in Zimbabwe:

Image


There's in excess of a billion ethnic Han Chinese in the world.

Find me one ginger, just one.

He's an African, yeah. But not ethnically, I'd guess, maybe 2% or so, who knows.

But culturally, he can be influenced. But my point stands, if he had red hair then it's proof for red hairs in Africa.
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Postby Canadensia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:35 am

Federal Syndicalist States wrote:
Canadensia wrote:
Geographically, sure.

Ethnically? No, I don't think so. Unless of course you're going to tell me with a straight face that this man is ethnically Shona or Matebele by virtue of being born in Zimbabwe:

Image


There's in excess of a billion ethnic Han Chinese in the world.

Find me one ginger, just one.

He's an African, yeah. But not ethnically, I'd guess, maybe 2% or so, who knows.

But culturally, he can be influenced. But my point stands, if he had red hair then it's proof for red hairs in Africa.


He's Ian Smith, former Prime Minister of Rhodesia.

And he was about as ethnically Scottish as it gets, so I'm inclined to say you aren't arguing in good faith by this point.

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Postby Federal Syndicalist States » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:36 am

Canadensia wrote:
Federal Syndicalist States wrote:He's an African, yeah. But not ethnically, I'd guess, maybe 2% or so, who knows.

But culturally, he can be influenced. But my point stands, if he had red hair then it's proof for red hairs in Africa.


He's Ian Smith, former Prime Minister of Rhodesia.

And he was about as ethnically Scottish as it gets, so I'm inclined to say you aren't arguing in good faith by this point.

That's why I didn't say he was not ethnically African. But if he had red hair I'd be proof of redheads in Africa.
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Postby Canadensia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:37 am

Ifreann wrote:
Canadensia wrote:
Then why post them at all if you knew they were neither East Asian nor Amerindian?

Ifreann wrote:I didn't think you wanted specifically red heads from those groups, I assumed you'd be satisfied with red heads from groups people don't usually associate with red hair.




No, I didn't. What of it?

You didn't link me to any East Asians or Amerindians with red hair, hence my point.



I never mentioned races.

I mentioned East Asians and Amerindians, neither of which have red hair. You asserted otherwise.

Defend your claim or renounce it.



Nowhere in the article does it state that East Asians or Amerindians have red hair.

Do you need help reading it?

This is what I said.
Ifreann wrote:Red hair is present but rare all over the world.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair# ... ern_Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair# ... ern_Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair# ... iterranean
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair# ... ll_regions)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair# ... ran_Africa

There, all over the world. Claim defended.


Yes, geographically.

Geographically.

That's not the same as ethnicity, at all. And considering how that was the context of the post you were initially replying to, I'm now wondering why you'd even bother to bring up something purely geographical in the first place.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:38 am

And what does this conversation about red heads have to do with the topic?
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Postby Canadensia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:40 am

Federal Syndicalist States wrote:
Canadensia wrote:
He's Ian Smith, former Prime Minister of Rhodesia.

And he was about as ethnically Scottish as it gets, so I'm inclined to say you aren't arguing in good faith by this point.

That's why I didn't say he was not ethnically African. But if he had red hair I'd be proof of redheads in Africa.


Geographically sure, but that's not the bloody point.

And at any rate, he didn't have red hair. Plenty of white men with red hair that were born in Africa, though. Still doesn't make them ethnically the same as the local cultures.

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Postby Torrocca » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:40 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:And what does this conversation about red heads have to do with the topic?


Mayhaps with the mention of the eternally perfidious Juden earlier in the thread, it's a sign that the global Zionist-Bolshevik conspiracy that destroys societies with diversity is run entirely by red-headed Jews? :o
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Postby Godular » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:41 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:And what does this conversation about red heads have to do with the topic?


Not sure, m'self. Canadensia said that redheads were rare around the world and somehow picposting was supposed to counter this position.

Sure, it's rare. Any place where it isn't 'rare' just gives us evidence of genetic drift.
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Postby Canadensia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:41 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:And what does this conversation about red heads have to do with the topic?


That genetic differences exist in groups to some substantial degree.

That's literally all I want recognized, I don't even need to hear that races exist.

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:41 am

Canadensia wrote:


Yes, geographically.

Geographically.

That's not the same as ethnicity, at all. And considering how that was the context of the post you were initially replying to, I'm now wondering why you'd even bother to bring up something purely geographical in the first place.

The post I was replying to was claiming that red hair is common in Ireland, Scotland, and England. It is not common in any of those places. It is rare everywhere.
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