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Postby United Imperial Systems » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:44 pm

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I find it funny how you’re threating actions from the Mods, which is against the rules and then go around and throw around insults. I find you to be a hilarious parody.


You are joking about highly sensitive issues. Does this not deserve action from higher-ups?

Mate, you're going around doing the same, you're an absolute hypocrite.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:44 pm

Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
Germany didn't have to pay back all of it'd debt because he declared war! Also, before the war, Hitler revived the German economy.

https://nationalvanguard.org/2018/06/ho ... s-economy/


Yeah, your source does not hold the same weight here, the actual real world than it does in your white nationalist echo chamber forums.

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Postby Frievolk » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:45 pm

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Frievolk wrote:Which would... solve neither the "militaristic" nor the "nationalistic" cultural traits you propose to be a problem. The Union was formed willingly after all, so all it would do would be pissing off five or six Angry German states. And The more German states you have in Europe, the bigger the mess. (No offense to any Germans).
Honestly, the French shouldn't have been allowed to take part in the negotiations.


Division and partition would've kept them from being able to wage a military campaign that saw conquest from France to the steppes of Eurasia.

The only way a division and partition would keep them from doing that would be at least long term military occupation. which is historically proven to be an idea of "too dumb to live" variety, not to mention the whole "Revanchism" thing that the Germans and French share as a trait. Besides. The best solution would have been a white peace, at least in my opinion. Anything else would piss off one side bad enough to, as the French said, make the "peace treaty" into a temporary armistice.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:45 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
I find it funny how you’re threating actions from the Mods, which is against the rules and then go around and throw around insults. I find you to be a hilarious parody.


You are joking about highly sensitive issues. Does this not deserve action from higher-ups?

Are you going to do it?
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Kustonia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:46 pm

Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
Germany didn't have to pay back all of it'd debt because he declared war! Also, before the war, Hitler revived the German economy.

https://nationalvanguard.org/2018/06/ho ... s-economy/


Yeah, your source does not hold the same weight here, the actual real world than it does in your white nationalist echo chamber forums.


It doesn't matter whether it's white nationalist or not, the writer had to do a lot of research in order to write this essay.
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Postby Godular » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:46 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
I find it funny how you’re threating actions from the Mods, which is against the rules and then go around and throw around insults. I find you to be a hilarious parody.


You are joking about highly sensitive issues. Does this not deserve action from higher-ups?


If there is anything questionable, report it. Threatening people with it only reflects on yourself.
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Postby Torrocca » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:47 pm

Frievolk wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Division and partition would've kept them from being able to wage a military campaign that saw conquest from France to the steppes of Eurasia.

The only way a division and partition would keep them from doing that would be at least long term military occupation. which is historically proven to be an idea of "too dumb to live" variety, not to mention the whole "Revanchism" thing that the Germans and French share as a trait. Besides. The best solution would have been a white peace, at least in my opinion. Anything else would piss off one side bad enough to, as the French said, make the "peace treaty" into a temporary armistice.


Eh, maybe. Maybe not. I think even a white peace would've still seen piss-poor sentiments in the German population, and maybe a revamping for war anyway.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:47 pm

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Senkaku wrote:When you're arguing that the Nazis were the good guys, it's time to stop. :p

As for the country being devastated- if you don't want the country devastated, don't fight the war in the first place, and if you don't want it to be even worse the second time, then don't try and start shit again after round one.

As for people starving to pay off the country's debts- Weimar Germany had its hyperinflation problems near the beginning, but they did eventually get over those, you know. Frankly, a lot of that was just because things were a mess immediately post-war (which is, you know, directly attributable to Germany having willingly fought a long and bloody war).


Germany didn't have to pay back all of it'd debt because he declared war! Also, before the war, Hitler revived the German economy.

https://nationalvanguard.org/2018/06/ho ... s-economy/


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Vanguard_(American_organization)

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Get the salt. We're gonna need to take that with a massive pile of it.
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Postby Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:47 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
I find it funny how you’re threating actions from the Mods, which is against the rules and then go around and throw around insults. I find you to be a hilarious parody.


You are joking about highly sensitive issues. Does this not deserve action from higher-ups?


I thought it was only “leftist SJW snowflakes” that got offended at humor about “highly sensitive issues”. :p ;)
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Postby Kustonia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:48 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
Yeah, your source does not hold the same weight here, the actual real world than it does in your white nationalist echo chamber forums.

>goes to home page
It's literally just racist bs.


You people have no idea what real research is because of all the lies that I see on NationStates forums never have any sources cited.
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Postby Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:48 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
Germany didn't have to pay back all of it'd debt because he declared war! Also, before the war, Hitler revived the German economy.

https://nationalvanguard.org/2018/06/ho ... s-economy/


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Vanguard_(American_organization)

National Vanguard is an American white nationalist, neo-Nazi organization based in Charlottesville, Virginia, founded in 2005 by Kevin Alfred Strom and former members of the National Alliance


Get the salt. We're gonna need to take that with a massive pile of it.


I already have enough of it from him to open a restaurant.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:49 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:>goes to home page
It's literally just racist bs.


You people have no idea what real research is because of all the lies that I see on NationStates forums never have any sources cited.


You mean like all that stuff you ignored about how black and asian phenotypical individuals can have red hair?
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Postby Risottia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:50 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
Yeah, your source does not hold the same weight here, the actual real world than it does in your white nationalist echo chamber forums.

>goes to home page
It's literally just racist bs.

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Postby United Imperial Systems » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:50 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:>goes to home page
It's literally just racist bs.


You people have no idea what real research is because of all the lies that I see on NationStates forums never have any sources cited.

Yeah, welcome to something different than 4chan, it actually has people who's opinion is not "Kill all non white people."
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Postby Torrocca » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:50 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:>goes to home page
It's literally just racist bs.


You people have no idea what real research is because of all the lies that I see on NationStates forums never have any sources cited.


>cites neo-nazi website, blames Jews for destroying ethnostates and peaceful societies
>"yOu GuYs DoN't UnDeRsTaNd ReAl ReSeArCh!1!!1!"

I'm gonna take a hard pass on that.

Also, anyone got any updates on this Dutch FM's idiocy with the whole hot take on multiculturalism ruining societies?
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Postby Godular » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:51 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:>goes to home page
It's literally just racist bs.


You people have no idea what real research is because of all the lies that I see on NationStates forums never have any sources cited.


*looks at massive supply of sources listed in this very thread*

Ah, I see. So it's only real research if it supports your viewpoint. You love yourself them echo chambers, don'tcha?
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Postby Thanatttynia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:51 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
Yeah, your source does not hold the same weight here, the actual real world than it does in your white nationalist echo chamber forums.


It doesn't matter whether it's white nationalist or not, the writer had to do a lot of research in order to write this essay.

The source is biased. Informed reporting cannot come from there because it is so biased. Would you accept an 'essay' justifying the invasion of Crimea from RT, however well-researched it was?
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Postby Proctopeo » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:51 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
Germany didn't have to pay back all of it'd debt because he declared war! Also, before the war, Hitler revived the German economy.

https://nationalvanguard.org/2018/06/ho ... s-economy/


The German economy was revived by the 1920s, well before the Nazis had a modicum of power.

Until it collapsed in 1929, of course.
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Postby Torrocca » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:53 pm

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Torrocca wrote:
The German economy was revived by the 1920s, well before the Nazis had a modicum of power.

Until it collapsed in 1929, of course.


IIRC that situation had stabilized before Hitler got into power in 1933.
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Postby Uxupox » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:54 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Until it collapsed in 1929, of course.


IIRC that situation had stabilized before Hitler got into power in 1933.


However, Albert Speer's implementation of the MEFO bills was brutally efficient in providing stepping stones to further enhance the German economy.
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Postby Kustonia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:55 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
You people have no idea what real research is because of all the lies that I see on NationStates forums never have any sources cited.


>cites neo-nazi website, blames Jews for destroying ethnostates and peaceful societies
>"yOu GuYs DoN't UnDeRsTaNd ReAl ReSeArCh!1!!1!"

I'm gonna take a hard pass on that.

Also, anyone got any updates on this Dutch FM's idiocy with the whole hot take on multiculturalism ruining societies?


Has this forum been taken over by communists?

I think so.
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Postby Risottia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:55 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Kowani wrote:
God also caused a giant fucking Flood according to the Bible, but that doesn’t mean that it happened.


Scientists have found evidence of a global flood.

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/evide ... d=17884533

Read your sources. Flooding the dried-up Black Sea basin =/= global flood.

I should very well know. I was there.
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Postby United Imperial Systems » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:56 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
>cites neo-nazi website, blames Jews for destroying ethnostates and peaceful societies
>"yOu GuYs DoN't UnDeRsTaNd ReAl ReSeArCh!1!!1!"

I'm gonna take a hard pass on that.

Also, anyone got any updates on this Dutch FM's idiocy with the whole hot take on multiculturalism ruining societies?


Has this forum been taken over by communists?

I think so.

Are you a troll? I legit think you are at this point.
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Postby Godular » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:56 pm

United Imperial Systems wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
Has this forum been taken over by communists?

I think so.

Are you a troll? I legit think you are at this point.


Watch it. Trollnaming bad too.
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Postby Risottia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:56 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
>cites neo-nazi website, blames Jews for destroying ethnostates and peaceful societies
>"yOu GuYs DoN't UnDeRsTaNd ReAl ReSeArCh!1!!1!"

I'm gonna take a hard pass on that.

Also, anyone got any updates on this Dutch FM's idiocy with the whole hot take on multiculturalism ruining societies?


Has this forum been taken over by communists?

I think so.


No, it's just that Max Barry is Karl Marx in disguise, and the Mods are the Politburo of the Fifth Comintern.
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