Dutch FM: ''Peaceful diverse societies are non-existent''

[United Imperial Systems]

You're a moron.

"Exploration of the genome has shown that all humans, whatever their race, share the same set of genes. Each gene exists in a variety of alternative forms known as alleles, so one might suppose that races have distinguishing alleles, but even this is not the case. A few alleles have highly skewed distributions but these do not suffice to explain the difference between races. The difference between races seems to rest on the subtle matter of relative allele frequencies. The overwhelming verdict of the genome is to declare the basic unity of humankind."

You are no different than a black man aside from color, you have the same genes, your own fucking source said that.

You're pathetic argument doesn't explain the few alleles that differentiate humanity drastically.

Newsflash! Race does exist.

You're still a moron.

"Each gene exists in a variety of alternative forms known as alleles, so one might suppose that races have distinguishing alleles, but even this is not the case. A few alleles have highly skewed distributions but these do not suffice to explain the difference between races. The difference between races seems to rest on the subtle matter of relative allele frequencies."
Allele frequency is what gives different "Races" difference, it's the same thing as eye color or hair color.
You don't claim that green eyed people are a different race from brown eyed people, do you...?

[The Alma Mater]

Exactly, I rest my argument based on the existence of Frisians.

Edit: Also Limburg

It's actually, the more I think about it, a good point. According to Mr Blok's own logic, the Netherlands should be seeing terrorist attacks and civil war because they have ethnic diversity in their own country. Yet this isn't the case

Well, it is actually.
Just not with the Frisians, except when people want to protest against the presence of a black caricature at a national event for kids.

[Chan Island]

Indeed. However, the Netherlands itself with Fryslan is quite decent - even though the Frisians disagree with "those city folk" on many things

The ultimate solution is to balkanize Europe into cultural subgroups, no matter how small or isolated

And then have those mini ethno-states all have zero immigration, no matter how detrimental to the economic prosperity of those peoples it is, because otherwise somebody might see a person who speaks Upper Sorbian with a Saxon accent! Imagine the horror!

[The Alma Mater]

But South Falls, one time a crazy person of a minority racial group did a bad thing in the USA, so clearly that must mean diversity is always doomed to failure.

You mean tensions between "black" and "white" do not exist in the USA except for a single incident ?
Well. Time to get rid of BLM and such then.

[Chan Island]

It's actually, the more I think about it, a good point. According to Mr Blok's own logic, the Netherlands should be seeing terrorist attacks and civil war because they have ethnic diversity in their own country. Yet this isn't the case

Well, it is actually.
Just not with the Frisians, except when people want to protest against the presence of a black caricature at a national event for kids.

Just took a quick look. Doesn't seem to have been any there for a while.

And actually that's exactly my point. Somehow I suspect that people aren't debating the merits of having Swarze Piet be a thing with weapons.

[The East Marches II]

Exactly, I rest my argument based on the existence of Frisians.

Edit: Also Limburg

It's actually, the more I think about it, a good point. According to Mr Blok's own logic, the Netherlands should be seeing terrorist attacks and civil war because they have ethnic diversity in their own country. Yet this isn't the case, and the Frisians haven't been waging a war against the Dutch state ... in ever, really. Everybody just seems to get along. Same thing with Limburg actually.

You must have forgotten the recent stuff with the Turks :^)

The Netherlands isn't free, as I mentioned before, authoritarian states can maintain order through removal of freedom. Unfortunately, they are too gutless to deal with multiple 5th columns. The curse of the Europeans.

[Chan Island]

But South Falls, one time a crazy person of a minority racial group did a bad thing in the USA, so clearly that must mean diversity is always doomed to failure.

You mean tensions between "black" and "white" do not exist in the USA except for a single incident ?
Well. Time to get rid of BLM and such then.

Well, I'm just issuing the same reasoning that the various ethnonationalists have been using throughout this thread. As for the tensions in the US, I'd quit happily see BLM go away, because the problems that are usually assigned "race" are much smaller than they seem. It's just that isolated incidents (often involving the US's legitimately terrifying law enforcement) get sensationalised by the media, making everybody angry for a bit.

[Kustonia]

You're pathetic argument doesn't explain the few alleles that differentiate humanity drastically.

Newsflash! Race does exist.

You're still a moron.

"Each gene exists in a variety of alternative forms known as alleles, so one might suppose that races have distinguishing alleles, but even this is not the case. A few alleles have highly skewed distributions but these do not suffice to explain the difference between races. The difference between races seems to rest on the subtle matter of relative allele frequencies."
Allele frequency is what gives different "Races" difference, it's the same thing as eye color or hair color.
You don't claim that green eyed people are a different race from brown eyed people, do you...?

No, but every race has similar genetic codes that distinguish them from the other races. For example, with people of Irish/Scottish/English descent, the gene for red hair is common. Races have their own combination of genetic features. Culture also distinguishes races as an external phase of within.

...the last part could be anthropological or psychoanalytical.

[Godular]

There is SO much racism in teaching that different cultures are not inherently inferior to your own. How dare we try to treat each other as equals.

That's correct! Great job.

Definite failure in your sarcasmometer.

People are not equal

That is not what multiculturalism means.

, they're inherently different - and that's a good thing.

THAT is what multiculturalism means.

[Philjia]

A society that's uniform enough to near-as-makes-no-difference eliminate violence and criminality is the kind of thing sci-fi authors are constantly worried about.

[Kustonia]

That's correct! Great job.

Definite failure in your sarcasmometer.

People are not equal

That is not what multiculturalism means.

, they're inherently different - and that's a good thing.

THAT is what multiculturalism means.

Multiculturalism is founded on the assumption that all races are equal. But biologically, races are different.

[United Imperial Systems]

You're still a moron.

"Each gene exists in a variety of alternative forms known as alleles, so one might suppose that races have distinguishing alleles, but even this is not the case. A few alleles have highly skewed distributions but these do not suffice to explain the difference between races. The difference between races seems to rest on the subtle matter of relative allele frequencies."
Allele frequency is what gives different "Races" difference, it's the same thing as eye color or hair color.
You don't claim that green eyed people are a different race from brown eyed people, do you...?

No, but every race has similar genetic codes that distinguish them from the other races. For example, with people of Irish/Scottish/English descent, the gene for red hair is common. Races have their own combination of genetic features. Culture also distinguishes races as an external phase of within.

That's because red-heads are common in Great Britian and Ireland, it doesn't make them a completely different race now does it?
"Race", the way you describe it, is the same as hair or eye color, it's inherited from the parents, it definetly doesn't make them any different or any less human than you, just like having red hair doesn't equal utter superiority.

[Ifreann]

You're still a moron.

"Each gene exists in a variety of alternative forms known as alleles, so one might suppose that races have distinguishing alleles, but even this is not the case. A few alleles have highly skewed distributions but these do not suffice to explain the difference between races. The difference between races seems to rest on the subtle matter of relative allele frequencies."
Allele frequency is what gives different "Races" difference, it's the same thing as eye color or hair color.
You don't claim that green eyed people are a different race from brown eyed people, do you...?

No, but every race has similar genetic codes that distinguish them from the other races. For example, with people of Irish/Scottish/English descent, the gene for red hair is common.

No it isn't. Red hair is present but rare all over the world.

[The Alma Mater]

Well, it is actually.
Just not with the Frisians, except when people want to protest against the presence of a black caricature at a national event for kids.

Just took a quick look. Doesn't seem to have been any there for a while.

There have been several in the last year. One incident throwing a home made molotov towards a mosque; one incident where a man went around shouting Allah Ackbar while stabbing people etc.

No big bombings though.

And actually that's exactly my point. Somehow I suspect that people aren't debating the merits of having Swarze Piet be a thing with weapons.

Sadly, you'dbe mistaken. The demonstration against Piet was forbidden because white nationalists were on their way with bombs.

[Godular]

Definite failure in your sarcasmometer.



That is not what multiculturalism means.



THAT is what multiculturalism means.

Multiculturalism is founded on the assumption that all races are equal.

Incorrect. Culture and race are not inherently synonymous. Even so:

But biologically, races are different.

This does not contradict the point you seem to be arguing against. Different does not mean unequal.

[Phoenicaea]

it depends on..what you wish to say. in a sense, properly, yes, if you stress the not realizeable illusion of a free society without conflict, not necessarly civil war.

a rather classical-styled (greco-roman reshuffled) sentence.

*edit: so..if you want to say, there are not free society that are completely peacefull. yes i agree

[Chan Island]

Just took a quick look. Doesn't seem to have been any there for a while.

There have been several in the last year. One incident throwing a home made molotov towards a mosque; one incident where a man went around shouting Allah Ackbar while stabbing people etc.

No big bombings though.

And actually that's exactly my point. Somehow I suspect that people aren't debating the merits of having Swarze Piet be a thing with weapons.

Sadly, you'dbe mistaken. The demonstration against Piet was forbidden because white nationalists were on their way with bombs.

So a couple of isolated incidents, just like in every other country on Earth.

Also, wow. I don't even have any words for that one. Talk about treasuring your favourite characters.

[Trumptonium1]

I agree with Blok's statements. I think he is very wise and courageous for saying the truth about human nature. Multicultural societies always fail, and they never provide the needs for the total population. The native population is despised and terrorized while their homelands dies away with them.

Name one total ethno state that managed to survive for a long time.

koreas, japan, visegrads

none of them are "ethno states" - none of them (apart from south korea until recently) care about that fact, they just have a rational aversion to the social and economic effects of migration and to diversity.

[Vassenor]

Definite failure in your sarcasmometer.



That is not what multiculturalism means.



THAT is what multiculturalism means.

Multiculturalism is founded on the assumption that all races are equal. But biologically, races are different.

So how does that stop all races from being equal?

[Godular]

No, but every race has similar genetic codes that distinguish them from the other races. For example, with people of Irish/Scottish/English descent, the gene for red hair is common.

No it isn't. Red hair is present but rare all over the world.

I lived in Turkey when I was drinking juice out of covered cups. I was forever getting my red hair tousled by the locals. It was seen as a good luck charm.

[My Briefcase]

Did Blok just suggest that the Netherlands themselves are not a peaceful society. Because the last time I heard such bull****, the American ambassador to the Netherlands was going over the horizon of sanity while still accellerating....

What the hell is wrong with these VVD people?

[Prussian Polish Commonwealth]

I agree with Blok's statements. I think he is very wise and courageous for saying the truth about human nature. Multicultural societies always fail, and they never provide the needs for the total population. The native population is despised and terrorized while their homelands dies away with them.

Name one total ethno state that managed to survive for a long time.

Deutsches Kaiserreich until Entente came along

[Phoenicaea]

..ehm younger guys, "biologically" there are not races properly, at the current state of the art.

there are different polimorphisms, and from these are ethnicities of p. stacked one above the other relatively at single or couple of chosen characteristics.

thus, these characteristics don t form a whole, a unity, so that you can divide individuals between them, not without referring at single or couple of "singular" characteristic (phenotypes..).

there is not a model person from wich to say, to define a so called race (the "Frenchman", the "Maghrebiman" etc).
of course we know what we talk about when saying an ethnicity, a race, still this is a way of saying for semplicity.

[Frievolk]

Name one total ethno state that managed to survive for a long time.

Deutsches Kaiserreich until Entente came along

1- The German Empire, particularly after the Scramble for Africa, was decidedly not an Ethnostate. A Colonial Empire can't be an ethnostate by definition.
2- That's like... less than 50 years... and they had a fuckload of rebellions in that time too. Really, Bismarck was the only thing keeping the Empire afloat.

[Cedoria]

I wish racial supremacists would drop the whole "JEWISH PLOT AND CONSPIRACY! LINES WITHIN LINES! HIDDEN ILLUSIONS AND MEANINGS!" nonsense they shit all over the place, its really fucking tiring.

Hah, good luck. That's literally all they've ever had. Deluded rumblings about Jews is pretty much the raison d'etre for these people.