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Postby Frievolk » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:07 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
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You have my answer, Jews are not Germans.

Literally does not answer the question.

Also if a jew living in germany holds german citizenship, they are german.

The definition of citizenship, especially at the time where a statement like "Jews are not Germans", was different for Germany than it was for France.
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Postby Kustonia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:09 am

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Or at least a burning effigy on my lawn.

I almost feel insulted that it hasn't happened yet.

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One time I knew a guy who knew a girl who had a cousin whose girlfriend's brother was called a "cracker" by a black kid in school, so you better believe that whites are on the brink of extinction.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_O8ZFBYdl_A

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Postby Painisia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:11 am

Now the VVD is taking a hard stance against immigration? I thought they were a liberal super-daddy party? They approved the legalization of soft drugs!
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:13 am

The South Falls wrote:Yea, that's like saying if there were no Jews, there would be no Hitler. There would have been fighting among the white Australians.


There would still be crime, but it would be with less severity and at a more acceptable rate of occurrence. That post is a liberal conspiracy to "move the goalposts" as to justify more immigration.
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Postby Kustonia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:15 am

Painisia wrote:Now the VVD is taking a hard stance against immigration? I thought they were a liberal super-daddy party? They approved the legalization of soft drugs!


Look, it's not about their stance. They're waking up to reality, you should be happy! They finally see the racism of multiculturalism.
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Postby Heloin » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:16 am

Saiwania wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Yea, that's like saying if there were no Jews, there would be no Hitler. There would have been fighting among the white Australians.


There would still be crime, but it would be with less severity and at a more acceptable rate of occurrence. That post is a liberal conspiracy to "move the goalposts" as to justify more immigration.

I don't think you know what the word conspiracy means.

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Postby Painisia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:17 am

Kustonia wrote:
Painisia wrote:Now the VVD is taking a hard stance against immigration? I thought they were a liberal super-daddy party? They approved the legalization of soft drugs!


Look, it's not about their stance. They're waking up to reality, you should be happy! They finally see the racism of multiculturalism.


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Postby Godular » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:19 am

Kustonia wrote:
Painisia wrote:Now the VVD is taking a hard stance against immigration? I thought they were a liberal super-daddy party? They approved the legalization of soft drugs!


Look, it's not about their stance. They're waking up to reality, you should be happy! They finally see the racism of multiculturalism.


There is SO much racism in teaching that different cultures are not inherently inferior to your own. How dare we try to treat each other as equals.
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Postby The South Falls » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:20 am

Kustonia wrote:
Page wrote:
One time I knew a guy who knew a girl who had a cousin whose girlfriend's brother was called a "cracker" by a black kid in school, so you better believe that whites are on the brink of extinction.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_O8ZFBYdl_A

You are absolutely correct. White people are persecuted and hated. It's time to stand up for whites.

Bro, I think you turned off your sarcasm detection meter
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The South Falls wrote:Yea, that's like saying if there were no Jews, there would be no Hitler. There would have been fighting among the white Australians.


There would still be crime, but it would be with less severity and at a more acceptable rate of occurrence. That post is a liberal conspiracy to "move the goalposts" as to justify more immigration.

Immigrants don't cause rampant violent crime. You don't get what the word conspiracy means.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:21 am

Alvecia wrote:
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I was actually referring to the fact that the Flemish and Wallonians have been living together quite peacefully for decades now.

Something something same culture I bet

Well they don’t even speak the same language so...
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:21 am

Saiwania wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Yea, that's like saying if there were no Jews, there would be no Hitler. There would have been fighting among the white Australians.


There would still be crime, but it would be with less severity and at a more acceptable rate of occurrence. That post is a liberal conspiracy to "move the goalposts" as to justify more immigration.

Europeans used to be killing each other all over the place, we hardly went five minutes without a war. Now we're all nice and friendly.

No immigrants, constant war.
Lots of immigrants, peace.

I'm just saying.
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Postby Trumpisslavia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:27 am

Painisia wrote:Now the VVD is taking a hard stance against immigration? I thought they were a liberal super-daddy party? They approved the legalization of soft drugs!


Some aspects of what is usually taken to be liberalism need not be incompatible with xenophobia -- indeed, one can suppose (with what degree of reasonableness I dunno) that the European welfare state can only accommodate so many -- misfits and recalcitrants need not apply --
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:27 am

Ifreann wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
There would still be crime, but it would be with less severity and at a more acceptable rate of occurrence. That post is a liberal conspiracy to "move the goalposts" as to justify more immigration.

Europeans used to be killing each other all over the place, we hardly went five minutes without a war. Now we're all nice and friendly.

No immigrants, constant war.
Lots of immigrants, peace.

I'm just saying.

Eh not really y’all are still blowing eachother up just on a small scale
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:28 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Europeans used to be killing each other all over the place, we hardly went five minutes without a war. Now we're all nice and friendly.

No immigrants, constant war.
Lots of immigrants, peace.

I'm just saying.

Eh not really y’all are still blowing eachother up just on a small scale

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Postby Kustonia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:29 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
You have my answer, Jews are not Germans.

Literally does not answer the question.

Also if a jew living in germany holds german citizenship, they are german.


Citizenship is man-made, it's not a natural concept. Race is natural, therefore, Jews are not Germans. The law cannot change nature.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:30 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Eh not really y’all are still blowing eachother up just on a small scale

*smiles in belfast*

#banEuropeans

They are all obviously very violent and as the minster himself said diversity leads to violence so we cannot have Europeans in a non European area
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Postby Heloin » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:31 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Eh not really y’all are still blowing eachother up just on a small scale

*smiles in belfast*

But the Irish stopped blowing each other up didn't they? Now all the paramilitary groups do is sell drugs or viciously beat people up for selling drugs.

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Postby The South Falls » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:31 am

Kustonia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Literally does not answer the question.

Also if a jew living in germany holds german citizenship, they are german.


Citizenship is man-made, it's not a natural concept. Race is natural, therefore, Jews are not Germans. The law cannot change nature.

Jews and Germans aren't a race. They're literally a religion and nationality.
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Postby Kustonia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:31 am

Godular wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
Look, it's not about their stance. They're waking up to reality, you should be happy! They finally see the racism of multiculturalism.


There is SO much racism in teaching that different cultures are not inherently inferior to your own. How dare we try to treat each other as equals.


That's correct! Great job. People are not equal, they're inherently different - and that's a good thing.
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Postby Cedoria » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:32 am

Saiwania wrote:
Cedoria wrote:Clearly this poor dunce has never heard of Australia...


If there were no Lebanese community in Australia, the Cronulla riots wouldn't have happened. It was started by a bunch of Lebanese troublemakers provoking the White Australians. Then the liberal media records the history as them being the victims.


You're wrong. I was there for all of that, and that's not what happened.

Doesn't matter even if you're right though, as one isolated incident to the contrary is not a whole society proven to be unstable. You're going to have to try harder to validate your crackpot racialist ideas Sai.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:32 am

Kustonia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Literally does not answer the question.

Also if a jew living in germany holds german citizenship, they are german.


Citizenship is man-made, it's not a natural concept. Race is natural, therefore, Jews are not Germans. The law cannot change nature.

Oh that’s bullshit mate. Only white and other race Supremacists such as yourself give a fuck about race. The French model is the best one: if they can assimilate than they are a citizen. At that point diversity is an added bonus
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Postby Kustonia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:33 am

The South Falls wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
Citizenship is man-made, it's not a natural concept. Race is natural, therefore, Jews are not Germans. The law cannot change nature.

Jews and Germans aren't a race. They're literally a religion and nationality.


Jews are a race, they come from Israel, but they also happen to have a religion. Jews are not Germans and Germans are not Jews. This is simple math!
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:33 am

Heloin wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:*smiles in belfast*

But the Irish stopped blowing each other up didn't they? Now all the paramilitary groups do is sell drugs or viciously beat people up for selling drugs.

Well the other week someone threw a pipe bomb at the house of a party leader and someone shot at police officers in derry after petrol bombs went back and forth between two communities.

We have made progress, but we are not all the way there yet. There are also usually a few attempted small scale bombs each year that are usually deactivated by the police.
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Postby Cedoria » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:34 am

Saiwania wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Yea, that's like saying if there were no Jews, there would be no Hitler. There would have been fighting among the white Australians.


There would still be crime, but it would be with less severity and at a more acceptable rate of occurrence. That post is a liberal conspiracy to "move the goalposts" as to justify more immigration.

Pfft.

Of all the liberal conspiracies that supposedly exist, that one has to be the most pathetic I've ever heard of concocted. If they're going to keep developing these liberal conspiracies to make you unhappy, why do they not put effort into it?
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