Dutch FM: ''Peaceful diverse societies are non-existent''

[Federal Syndicalist States]

Just another act in the theater of European Reactionarism. I'm not surprised that the Dutch PM spewed cancerous bullshit like that, but I don't really think much will change. He may be forced to write an official apology or resign, but that's looking at it really optimistically. He'll probably face no threat for that bullshit and go on doing what he's been doing.

FM, and I think he'll have to make a public apology, atleast that is.

[Steam and Clockwork]

Name one total ethno state that managed to survive for a long time.

Germany lasted quite a while, until the Jews overpopulated their country. Ethno-states are natural and existed at the beginning of human civilization.

This guy...

How is it that these far-righters are still latched on to the "Jewish Problem" as their cause célèbre?

If nothing else, it shows a stunning lack of imagination...

[Frievolk]

Germany lasted quite a while, until the Jews overpopulated their country. Ethno-states are natural and existed at the beginning of human civilization.

This guy...

How is it that these far-righters are still latched on to the "Jewish Problem" as their cause célèbre?

If nothing else, it shows a stunning lack of imagination...

The point of the Big Lie is that you can't go against it, or you're toast. They have to use the "International Jewry" even now, or else their entire point will be moot.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Peaceful societies don’t exist, period

[The Blaatschapen]

Germany lasted quite a while, until the Jews overpopulated their country. Ethno-states are natural and existed at the beginning of human civilization.

This guy...

How is it that these far-righters are still latched on to the "Jewish Problem" as their cause célèbre?

If nothing else, it shows a stunning lack of imagination...

At least over in NL, the Pvv is very friendly towards Israel. It's like foreign far right wingers are ignorant of our country

[Kavagrad]

They managed to beat England in the World Cup, that's something that can't be overlooked though.

I was actually referring to the fact that the Flemish and Wallonians have been living together quite peacefully for decades now.

Yeah, but they're white, so it doesn't count.

/s

[Avalbion]

what

I fucking know the answer thats coming, but yet i still fucking ask

.

Races are different. Are you thoroughly offended now?

Races? My poor scientific heart is bleeding

[Ifreann]

Everyone knows that all Europeans are the same.

That’s why historically we’ve gotten along so well

We're all one big happy family, us Europeans.

[Steam and Clockwork]

This guy...

How is it that these far-righters are still latched on to the "Jewish Problem" as their cause célèbre?

If nothing else, it shows a stunning lack of imagination...

At least over in NL, the Pvv is very friendly towards Israel. It's like foreign far right wingers are ignorant of our country

"Ignorant" being the key word here. Don't worry, they'd act the same in regard to any country...

I'm an American, but I've known quite a few Dutch over the years. I have nothing but the highest admiration for your countrymen, some of the best people (though I'm especially partial to the Germans... )

[Aellex]

I was actually referring to the fact that the Flemish and Wallonians have been living together quite peacefully for decades now.

>""""Peacefully""""
Tbh, it's indeed quite the wonder Belgium is still holding given how much Wallons and Flamands hate each other.

[The Blaatschapen]

I was actually referring to the fact that the Flemish and Wallonians have been living together quite peacefully for decades now.

>""""Peacefully""""

Triple quotes are the new parentheses? Or what does that mean?

[Saiwania]

There should be no apology, it'd be better to double down like Donald Trump would. This man speaks the truth.

[Dumb Ideologies]

There's a sort of valid point buried in there somewhere. But he's guilty of oversimplifying more than a tad for an easy baity soundbite. Hardly a first for a politician, no? :^)

To break it down, there's never been a society entirely devoid of conflict and violence, so strictly speaking a peaceful non-diverse society is also non-existent. Most violence is motivated by such things as unhealthy relationships, addiction, personality disorders and mental health issues, massive income disparities and gaps in the welfare system etc, rather than ethnic diversity. It's important not to get whipped into a frenzy by the hysteria on the matter from all sides.

You can also sustain a diverse society at a level of relative peace if that very diversity is part of the national identity and the various communities have broadly similar and compatible values. It is a great shame where such a situation is not foundational but instead forced by excessive immigration resulting from economic and political forces, ultimately eroding *real* diversity by making everywhere a homogenous hodgepodge, but for certain values of "working" it will certainly function.

The problem lies where there are communities within a society with fundamentally different and incompatible values. Where newcomers stick to their own and fail to integrate, through faith schools, arranged marriages, extreme forms of difference-marking dress etc, subsequent generations are also prone to not integrate themselves but also view the wider national community in adversarial terms. If said community tends to grow through ongoing migration, buying up property and turning streets and districts into "their area", people in the majority population can also reasonably start to have grievances about parts of their country being "stolen" by self-identified outsiders and harbour resentments, especially if they cannot get housing themselves despite being loyal nationally-identified citizens due to failures in the welfare regime. And in such a way, ethnic tensions ratchet up and instability, violence, and politicians stirring stuff up further for votes is not far away.

Mr Blok is not 100% wrong, but he's quite far from making any kind of useful contribution. Exacerbating tensions to increase polling numbers and get good press from tabloids is not something to be admired, if he cares so deeply about the issue he should advocate for policies aimed at further assimilation and integration rather than spouting his mouth off like an angry fish.

[Aellex]

Triple quotes are the new parentheses? Or what does that mean?

Oh fucking please, as if I am a god damn antisemite. If you want to go for the ad hominem, at least try to aim for accurate ones.
See the edit. Belgium really is no exemple of a "peaceful" diverse society.

[The Blaatschapen]

There should be no apology, it'd be better to double down like Donald Trump would. This man speaks the truth.

He'll quickly find that the coalition is not quite like the republican party. And that some (D66) just might find some ideals to hit him over the head with.

[The Blaatschapen]

Triple quotes are the new parentheses? Or what does that mean?

Oh fucking please, as if I am a god damn antisemite. If you want to go for the ad hominem, at least try to aim for accurate ones.
See the edit. Belgium really is no exemple of a "peaceful" diverse society.

No, I genuinely do not know why there are more than 1 set of quotation marks

[The South Falls]

There should be no apology, it'd be better to double down like Donald Trump would. This man speaks the truth.

I wouldn't say that. Do you have your examples from history?

[Aellex]

No, I genuinely do not know why there are more than 1 set of quotation marks

Sneer quotes aka the use of quotation marks for the sake of mocking the use of a particular word and its inherent irony in the context.
Kinda killing the humor by forcing one to explain it, here.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Oh fucking please, as if I am a god damn antisemite. If you want to go for the ad hominem, at least try to aim for accurate ones.
See the edit. Belgium really is no exemple of a "peaceful" diverse society.

No, I genuinely do not know why there are more than 1 set of quotation marks

I use three on occasion when indicating maximal disdain and scepticism towards a claim. Using two of any punctuation is too close to just looking like a mistake, and four seems excessive. Think along the lines of how you might conceivably use three exclamation or question marks in writing but never two.

[Ifreann]

>""""Peacefully""""

Triple quotes are the new parentheses? Or what does that mean?

It's like doing...

...air quotes, but way more emphatically. You know, flapping your arms around, using such a sarcastic tone of voice it sounds like you're having a stroke.

[The Blaatschapen]

Triple quotes are the new parentheses? Or what does that mean?

It's like doing...

...air quotes, but way more emphatically. You know, flapping your arms around, using such a sarcastic tone of voice it sounds like you're having a stroke.

Ah, so they're overdoing it. Got it.

One set suffices usually.

[The Black Party]

Peaceful societies don’t exist, period

Rejecting the left AND the right in one statement

[Frievolk]

Peaceful societies don’t exist, period

Rejecting the left AND the right in one statement

Well I mean he's not wrong per se. I'm not sure if they can't exist, but no society has been really peaceful.

[Steam and Clockwork]

No, I genuinely do not know why there are more than 1 set of quotation marks

Sneer quotes aka the use of quotation marks for the sake of mocking the use of a particular word and its inherent irony in the context.
Kinda killing the humor by forcing one to explain it, here.

"""humor"""

[The South Falls]

Pacifism, while the ultimate goal of every society, is always crushed.