US Midterm Election Megathread II: The Stretch Run Begins

[Tobleste]

They do? How did donnie get elected?

"I love coal!" - Improve the lives of coal miners
"I'll improve the economy" - self-explanatory to all but the Clinton family
"Our healthcare system is terrible, I'm a great businessman" - Implication that he'll improve Healthcare

And so on. Trump knew how to campaign.

I think if that constitutes plans to improve voter's lives, democrats have plenty.

[Telconi]

"I love coal!" - Improve the lives of coal miners
"I'll improve the economy" - self-explanatory to all but the Clinton family
"Our healthcare system is terrible, I'm a great businessman" - Implication that he'll improve Healthcare

And so on. Trump knew how to campaign.

I think if that constitutes plans to improve voter's lives, democrats have plenty.

not unless "Deplorable" has become a a trait of a good life.

[Valrifell]

I think if that constitutes plans to improve voter's lives, democrats have plenty.

not unless "Deplorable" has become a a trait of a good life.

Cherry picking things said a year and a half ago is a two-way street, if we're pretending that "deplorable" is evidence of Democrats lacking policy proposals than I could look back on the insults Trump spewed and use that as evidence Republicans lack policy proposals. This back-and-forth is pointless and, frankly, disingenuous. Everyone should know that Dems advertise things other than being anti-Trump and Republicans do have a semi-coherent vision for the country. As far as I'm concerned, anything to the contrary is just selective-hearing influenced by political biases.

[Shrillland]

What staggers me is this quote:

"gathered nearly 200 more signatures than the 117,578 valid signatures required to place the amendment on the ballot"

117,578 signatures to place an amendment on a state-wide ballot??? That seems A) Excessive for a state like Oregon and B) a weirdly odd and specific number.

That is oddly specific. 200 signatures is just barely over the margin. You want to be over the required number by a substantial amount as signatures for all almost petitions invariably get tossed for being invalid.

Most of these Initiative Petitions got by with barely above the required threshold. I still don't see any of them passing, including IP 1, which will be added.

[Shofercia]

not unless "Deplorable" has become a a trait of a good life.

Cherry picking things said a year and a half ago is a two-way street, if we're pretending that "deplorable" is evidence of Democrats lacking policy proposals than I could look back on the insults Trump spewed and use that as evidence Republicans lack policy proposals. This back-and-forth is pointless and, frankly, disingenuous. Everyone should know that Dems advertise things other than being anti-Trump and Republicans do have a semi-coherent vision for the country. As far as I'm concerned, anything to the contrary is just selective-hearing influenced by political biases.

Take a close look at who Trump insults. Almost everyone he insults falls into two categories:

1. People not registered to vote, and/or unlikely to vote
2. People who vote, but will not vote for Trump no matter what he says/does

Democrats need 2008 Obama, not 2012 Obama. Say what you will about Trump, but he knows how to campaign.

[Corrian]

On the much earlier topic of voting for Republicans, I can't really see me voting for any Republican because of my preferred politics, but there are a few Republican candidates up here I would or am living with. Like my Snohomish County Council member. Some of the super local ones are really not that bad because they're working towards smaller local stuff than things that affect us all.

It's like South Lake Tahoe being run by Republicans apparently, despite seeming more like a liberal-leaning type of city to me. And they're one of the cities pushing for 100% renewables. Local Republicans can certainly feel like they're still progressing society to me, versus how I feel about our current high-up Republicans.

[Telconi]

not unless "Deplorable" has become a a trait of a good life.

Cherry picking things said a year and a half ago is a two-way street, if we're pretending that "deplorable" is evidence of Democrats lacking policy proposals than I could look back on the insults Trump spewed and use that as evidence Republicans lack policy proposals. This back-and-forth is pointless and, frankly, disingenuous. Everyone should know that Dems advertise things other than being anti-Trump and Republicans do have a semi-coherent vision for the country. As far as I'm concerned, anything to the contrary is just selective-hearing influenced by political biases.

I suppose they must, but nothing of value to me. That's the point they aren't appealing to anyone but their hardcore supporters.

[Bakery Hill]

On the much earlier topic of voting for Republicans, I can't really see me voting for any Republican because of my preferred politics, but there are a few Republican candidates up here I would or am living with. Like my Snohomish County Council member. Some of the super local ones are really not that bad because they're working towards smaller local stuff than things that affect us all.

It's like South Lake Tahoe being run by Republicans apparently, despite seeming more like a liberal-leaning type of city to me. And they're one of the cities pushing for 100% renewables. Local Republicans can certainly feel like they're still progressing society to me, versus how I feel about our current high-up Republicans.

The more local things are, the easier it is to work with politicians with differing views. I can do that a little up where I'm at.

[Bakery Hill]

Because the polices of the elected Republican Party is nothing but hostile nonsense..

You seem to have learned exactly nothing from the loss of The Flutterlands. Perhaps three days off will help, though I'm not holding my breath.

*** 3 day ban for trolling. ***

As for the rest of you, stop engaging him. Just stop. Some of that is bordering on the actionable, too.

I know everyone hates this dude, but what about that particular comment is actionable at all? That's a reasonable assessment of Republican policy that many people on this thread share. That's simply not trolling.

[Petrasylvania]

Don't recall any other Presidents with a mountain of lawsuits for cheating employees and small businesses out of payment owed.

Because clearly, those are the only two areas where president would ever lie...

"I did not have sex with..."

"Captain, they just raised their Clinton Deflectors." "Yellow Alert."

[Freezic Vast]

You seem to have learned exactly nothing from the loss of The Flutterlands. Perhaps three days off will help, though I'm not holding my breath.

*** 3 day ban for trolling. ***

As for the rest of you, stop engaging him. Just stop. Some of that is bordering on the actionable, too.

I know everyone hates this dude, but what about that particular comment is actionable at all? That's a reasonable assessment of Republican policy that many people on this thread share. That's simply not trolling.

All x are y is trolling that's why.

[Bakery Hill]

I know everyone hates this dude, but what about that particular comment is actionable at all? That's a reasonable assessment of Republican policy that many people on this thread share. That's simply not trolling.

All x are y is trolling that's why.

No that's not even close to being applicable. If I say "Republican policy is ridiculous" that's not trolling. If so the entire board will become untenable.

[Washington Resistance Army]

All x are y is trolling that's why.

No that's not even close to being applicable. If I say "Republican policy is ridiculous" that's not trolling. If so the entire board will become untenable.

Moderation never made sense, don't think about it.

[Freezic Vast]

All x are y is trolling that's why.

No that's not even close to being applicable. If I say "Republican policy is ridiculous" that's not trolling. If so the entire board will become untenable.

No it's not that, it's Flutters saying stuff like Republicans are evil and are the enemy and hostile and voting for them should be a crime. THAT'S trolling and the main reason his country got DEAT'ed in the first place. But honestly I'd let a mod try to clear this up for you, if I'm being wrong, and I'd prefer not to jack this thread.

[Bakery Hill]

No that's not even close to being applicable. If I say "Republican policy is ridiculous" that's not trolling. If so the entire board will become untenable.

No it's not that, it's Flutters saying stuff like Republicans are evil and are the enemy and hostile and voting for them should be a crime. THAT'S trolling and the main reason his country got DEAT'ed in the first place. But honestly I'd let a mod try to clear this up for you, if I'm being wrong, and I'd prefer not to jack this thread.

What was quoted however was not actionable.

[Freezic Vast]

No it's not that, it's Flutters saying stuff like Republicans are evil and are the enemy and hostile and voting for them should be a crime. THAT'S trolling and the main reason his country got DEAT'ed in the first place. But honestly I'd let a mod try to clear this up for you, if I'm being wrong, and I'd prefer not to jack this thread.

What was quoted however was not actionable.

The mods disagree, go ask them.

[Ifreann]

I know everyone hates this dude, but what about that particular comment is actionable at all? That's a reasonable assessment of Republican policy that many people on this thread share. That's simply not trolling.

All x are y is trolling that's why.

Where "X", in this case, is "the policies of elected Republicans". The policies of the government of the United States.

[Thermodolia]

Don't recall any other Presidents with a mountain of lawsuits for cheating employees and small businesses out of payment owed.

Because clearly, those are the only two areas where president would ever lie...

"I did not have sex with..."

“It depends on what your definition of is is”

[Bakery Hill]

What was quoted however was not actionable.

The mods disagree, go ask them.

Yes, that is exactly what I was doing.

[Thermodolia]

No it's not that, it's Flutters saying stuff like Republicans are evil and are the enemy and hostile and voting for them should be a crime. THAT'S trolling and the main reason his country got DEAT'ed in the first place. But honestly I'd let a mod try to clear this up for you, if I'm being wrong, and I'd prefer not to jack this thread.

What was quoted however was not actionable.

Don’t try to understand it dude

[Telconi]

Because clearly, those are the only two areas where president would ever lie...

"I did not have sex with..."

"Captain, they just raised their Clinton Deflectors." "Yellow Alert."

Well if the Democrat Star Empire hadn't given us so much technical information on such devices, you wouldn't have thi's problem.

[Corrian]

You have great analysis. You should be a political pundit. Tennessee is also having a lot of local elections including countywide elections. Two of the biggest counties voting are Shelby (Memphis is the county seat) and Knox County. Knox County is of note as former WWE wrestler Glenn Jacobs is running for mayor of the county His ring name was Kane.

What the hell is a county mayor.

[Napkiraly]

Because the polices of the elected Republican Party is nothing but hostile nonsense..

You seem to have learned exactly nothing from the loss of The Flutterlands. Perhaps three days off will help, though I'm not holding my breath.

*** 3 day ban for trolling. ***

As for the rest of you, stop engaging him. Just stop. Some of that is bordering on the actionable, too.

How is thinking that elected officials of a particular party bring bad policies to the table deemed trolling?

[Napkiraly]

I know everyone hates this dude, but what about that particular comment is actionable at all? That's a reasonable assessment of Republican policy that many people on this thread share. That's simply not trolling.

All x are y is trolling that's why.

That is not what is quoted and deemed unacceptable.

[The Archregimancy]

Everyone, I appreciate that several of you have concerns over the recent ban handed out in this thread.

However, could I gently suggest that any concerns or questions over the definition of trolling be brought up in a Discussion thread in Moderation rather than in this thread; otherwise there's a risk of accidentally threadjacking the present discussion.

Thank you.