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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:48 pm
by Uiiop
Bienenhalde wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:These midterm elections are certainly going to be interesting, especially since both parties are rallying previously undetermined or independent people to their sides.

I do not understand why. Given how strident and ideologically narrow Democrats and Republicans are nowadays, I would expect independents and apolitical people to be more apathetic and disgusted than anything else.

Didn't WRA brought up something that showed independents were just partisans in denial?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:35 pm
by San Lumen
Shrillland wrote:
Shofercia wrote:USA Today predicts Historic Turnout: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 568186002/



In 2010, turnout was at 41%. Midterm turnouts don't usually top 40%, and Republicans are favored to hold the Senate, while Democrats are slightly more likely than Republicans to take the House. However, if Penniman is correct in her predictions, the Democrats should steamroll the House and have a one seat lead in the Senate. In other news, a deficit of Popcorn is expected after Halloween :P


Depends where they are. A major state, Florida may have their turnout somewhat upended now that Michael's come, seen, and leveled the Panhandle, just as Sandy caused turnout to plummet in New York and New Jersey.

Plus it will give Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillium the opportunity to show he can lead.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:43 pm
by Oldenfranck
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Yeah this could potentially be problematic.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/1 ... nd-switch/

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:48 pm
by Shrillland
Oldenfranck wrote:

Yeah this could potentially be problematic.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/1 ... nd-switch/


I'm afraid the source is not particularly credible.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:53 pm
by Oldenfranck
Shrillland wrote:
Oldenfranck wrote:

Yeah this could potentially be problematic.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/1 ... nd-switch/


I'm afraid the source is not particularly credible.


Literally there is a video with his staffers talking.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:59 pm
by Shrillland
Oldenfranck wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
I'm afraid the source is not particularly credible.


Literally there is a video with his staffers talking.


Oh I don't necessarily dispute that, even so, Project Veritas videos tend to raise red flags among many folks, even a fair few Conservatives see him as problematic.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:20 pm
by Western Vale Confederacy
Bienenhalde wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:These midterm elections are certainly going to be interesting, especially since both parties are rallying previously undetermined or independent people to their sides.

I do not understand why. Given how strident and ideologically narrow Democrats and Republicans are nowadays, I would expect independents and apolitical people to be more apathetic and disgusted than anything else.


With the pseudo-extremist rethoric that both parties are yelling at the moment, they are going to great lengths to appeal to as many people as possible, and that includes trying to rally various apolitical, independent or moderate voters by showing a "big tent" facade, even though the partisan and leadership core are swinging increasingly far-left or far-right.

Also, in the US, it is practically pointless to attempt to vote for a third party since they are usually almost instantly knocked out or stiffled by the juggernauts that are the Dems and Reps.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:23 pm
by The Liberated Territories
Voting is useless anyway.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:32 pm
by San Lumen
The Liberated Territories wrote:Voting is useless anyway.

No its not

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:44 pm
by Western Vale Confederacy
San Lumen wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:Voting is useless anyway.

No its not


Well, in the US, you have the diverse choice of voting for the far-left, far-right, and a buncha useless third parties...

Have fun!

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:51 pm
by Telconi
San Lumen wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:Voting is useless anyway.

No its not


Sure it is!

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:59 pm
by The Black Forrest
Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No its not


Sure it is!


Not really. You guys don't put up anybody interesting.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:16 pm
by Telconi
The Black Forrest wrote:


Not really. You guys don't put up anybody interesting.


Given your idea of what "interesting" is, I'd rather not put up anything interesting.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:16 pm
by Western Vale Confederacy
Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No its not


Sure it is!


Democrat vs. Democrat

You might as well just burn your constitution, drop the illusion of a republic and declare yourself an oligarchy at this point.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:47 am
by Vassenor

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:56 am
by Loben
Surprised you didn't put them as poc.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:16 am
by Vassenor
Loben wrote:Surprised you didn't put them as poc.


Are you complaining that I took the title of the article I was citing verbatim so you can make some sort of point?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:17 am
by Loben
No?

Maybe?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:57 am
by Western Vale Confederacy


That website already screams Democrat bias to me.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:04 am
by Vassenor
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:


That website already screams Democrat bias to me.


https://www.apnews.com/fb011f39af3b40518b572c8cce6e906c

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:19 am
by Valrifell
Vassenor wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
That website already screams Democrat bias to me.


https://www.apnews.com/fb011f39af3b40518b572c8cce6e906c


Always open with the AP to avoid [most] cries of liberal bias.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:20 am
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:


That website already screams Democrat bias to me.

Would you oppose the move if it were true? Honest question.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:21 am
by Western Vale Confederacy
Valrifell wrote:


Always open with the AP to avoid [most] cries of liberal bias.


I said DEMOCRAT bias, not LIBERAL bias, just to clarify.

As much as those two are basically intertwined by now, the distinction is still there.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:22 am
by Western Vale Confederacy
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
That website already screams Democrat bias to me.

Would you oppose the move if it were true? Honest question.


I'd most certainly oppose it regardless of political affiliation.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:24 am
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Would you oppose the move if it were true? Honest question.


I'd most certainly oppose it regardless of political affiliation.

Alright, that’s good. Good to have that cleared up in advance.