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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:49 pm

Corrian wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No he wasn't. Who is a real progressive then?

Bernie Sanders, probably.

And yes he was. All that hopey changey stuff was quite disappointing.

You go nominate someone like Bernie Sanders or Alexandria Ocasio Cortez in North Dakota or West Virginia but dont cry when they lose the general election.

I've never once said that those types should be nominated there. I'm well aware they'd lose.

Maybe if he didn't have a Republican Congress for most his term things would have gotten done. If more people had gotten off their butts to vote in 2010 and 2014 maybe Democrats wouldn't have lost Congress.

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Postby Corrian » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:53 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Corrian wrote:Bernie Sanders, probably.

And yes he was. All that hopey changey stuff was quite disappointing.


I've never once said that those types should be nominated there. I'm well aware they'd lose.

Maybe if he didn't have a Republican Congress for most his term things would have gotten done. If more people had gotten off their butts to vote in 2010 and 2014 maybe Democrats wouldn't have lost Congress.

There we can agree, but alas, welcome to how midterms work.
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Postby Valgora » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:54 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Corrian wrote:Bernie Sanders, probably.

And yes he was. All that hopey changey stuff was quite disappointing.


I've never once said that those types should be nominated there. I'm well aware they'd lose.

Maybe if he didn't have a Republican Congress for most his term things would have gotten done. If more people had gotten off their butts to vote in 2010 and 2014 maybe Democrats wouldn't have lost Congress.


People didn't vote simply because they didn't want to get off their asses.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:55 pm

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San Lumen wrote:Maybe if he didn't have a Republican Congress for most his term things would have gotten done. If more people had gotten off their butts to vote in 2010 and 2014 maybe Democrats wouldn't have lost Congress.


People didn't vote simply because they didn't want to get off their asses.


Well then they got the government they deserved. If you dont vote you have no right to complain.

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Postby Valgora » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:58 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Valgora wrote:
People didn't vote simply because they didn't want to get off their asses.


Well then they got the government they deserved. If you dont vote you have no right to complain.


That's not how it fuckin' works.

Voting is not a requirement to be able to complain.

By you're logic, those who can't vote shouldn't be able to complain.
What about those who decide not to vote because they have no choices they support?
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:13 pm

Valgora wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Well then they got the government they deserved. If you dont vote you have no right to complain.


That's not how it fuckin' works.

Voting is not a requirement to be able to complain.

By you're logic, those who can't vote shouldn't be able to complain.
What about those who decide not to vote because they have no choices they support?


Im sorry the candidates dont inspire you or excite you. People used to just man up about it and vote. if you dont like whose running then run for office yourself.

I have no tolerance or sympathy for those who say I dont like the candidates. Then get off your butt and run if you think you can do better.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:14 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Valgora wrote:
That's not how it fuckin' works.

Voting is not a requirement to be able to complain.

By you're logic, those who can't vote shouldn't be able to complain.
What about those who decide not to vote because they have no choices they support?


Im sorry the candidates dont inspire you or excite you. People used to just man up about it and vote. if you dont like whose running then run for office yourself.

I have no tolerance or sympathy for those who say I dont like the candidates. Then get off your butt and run if you think you can do better.


You do know that's not feasible for most people, right?
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:15 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Im sorry the candidates dont inspire you or excite you. People used to just man up about it and vote. if you dont like whose running then run for office yourself.

I have no tolerance or sympathy for those who say I dont like the candidates. Then get off your butt and run if you think you can do better.


You do know that's not feasible for most people, right?


You can start with local office. Like school board or city council
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Postby Telconi » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:33 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Valgora wrote:
That's not how it fuckin' works.

Voting is not a requirement to be able to complain.

By you're logic, those who can't vote shouldn't be able to complain.
What about those who decide not to vote because they have no choices they support?


Im sorry the candidates dont inspire you or excite you. People used to just man up about it and vote. if you dont like whose running then run for office yourself.

I have no tolerance or sympathy for those who say I dont like the candidates. Then get off your butt and run if you think you can do better.


Lumen:Just man up and vote.
Also Lumen: You should just not vote rather than vote for the better of two bad candidates.

So, uh, which is it?
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Postby Triassica » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:34 pm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.salon. ... of_partner

Another reason why Republicans must lose in November, esepically at the state level. This basically a fucking coup they are trying to pull. I'd rather commit treason than follow what ever insane corporate shit show they turn this country into if they succeed...
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Postby Shrillland » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:18 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
You do know that's not feasible for most people, right?


You can start with local office. Like school board or city council


Trust me, Lumen, that's not always possible. I couldn't run for office unless I had an R next to my name around here, and that's not likely to happen. So why run when you know it's not possible to win?
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Postby Corrian » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:23 pm

San Lumen wrote:Im sorry the candidates dont inspire you or excite you. People used to just man up about it and vote. if you dont like whose running then run for office yourself.

I have no tolerance or sympathy for those who say I dont like the candidates. Then get off your butt and run if you think you can do better.

How many times have we freaking explained this to you?

You sound so repetitive at this point.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:24 pm

Triassica wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.salon.com/amp/the-biggest-threat-to-our-democracy-that-you-have-not-heard-of_partner

Another reason why Republicans must lose in November, esepically at the state level. This basically a fucking coup they are trying to pull. I'd rather commit treason than follow what ever insane corporate shit show they turn this country into if they succeed...

How about no.

Then I hope you get arrested for such a thing.
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Postby Triassica » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:26 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
Triassica wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.salon.com/amp/the-biggest-threat-to-our-democracy-that-you-have-not-heard-of_partner

Another reason why Republicans must lose in November, esepically at the state level. This basically a fucking coup they are trying to pull. I'd rather commit treason than follow what ever insane corporate shit show they turn this country into if they succeed...

How about no.

Then I hope you get arrested for such a thing.

Did you even read the article?
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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:31 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Valgora wrote:
That's not how it fuckin' works.

Voting is not a requirement to be able to complain.

By you're logic, those who can't vote shouldn't be able to complain.
What about those who decide not to vote because they have no choices they support?


Im sorry the candidates dont inspire you or excite you. People used to just man up about it and vote. if you dont like whose running then run for office yourself.

I have no tolerance or sympathy for those who say I dont like the candidates. Then get off your butt and run if you think you can do better.

THAT'S NOT HOW IT FUCKING WORKS!!!

We've explained this to your so many times, either your acting stupid on purpose to get a rise out of some of us, or you literally are that dumb that you can't take the fucking hint.

"if you dont like whose running then run for office yourself" Bitch shut the fuck up, I don't see you running for office, yet all you do is bitch and moan to us how awful everything is, just like Triassica.

"I have no tolerance or sympathy for those who say I dont like the candidates" Well what the fuck do you want us to do then, we're not gonna vote if both candidates suck, and voting third party means nothing, especially if they're not gonna win. None of us have the time, the money, the stamina, nor the public experience to do so, stop acting like a stuck-up, stubborn, obnoxious, arrogant bitch all the fucking time by telling us the same thing every time. So take your fucking bullshit argument and GO AWAY!!!
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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:32 pm

Triassica wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:How about no.

Then I hope you get arrested for such a thing.

Did you even read the article?

"""article"""

From Salon, I knew it was BS the moment it said Salon.
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Postby Triassica » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:35 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
Triassica wrote:Did you even read the article?

"""article"""

From Salon, I knew it was BS the moment it said Salon.

How about the Guardian?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... ntion-alec

Just because it is left wing doesn't mean It's fake news!
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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:36 pm

Triassica wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:"""article"""

From Salon, I knew it was BS the moment it said Salon.

How about the Guardian?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... ntion-alec

Just because it is left wing doesn't mean It's fake news!

Oh shut up, no one has time for your bullshit.
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Postby Triassica » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:38 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
Triassica wrote:How about the Guardian?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... ntion-alec

Just because it is left wing doesn't mean It's fake news!

Oh shut up, no one has time for your bullshit.

Fine then. Ignore me. Cause once the enemy succeeds you are going to have to pick a side.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:39 pm

Triassica wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.salon.com/amp/the-biggest-threat-to-our-democracy-that-you-have-not-heard-of_partner

Another reason why Republicans must lose in November, esepically at the state level. This basically a fucking coup they are trying to pull. I'd rather commit treason than follow what ever insane corporate shit show they turn this country into if they succeed...


Enjoy your supermax Cpt. Treason.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:39 pm

Triassica wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:Oh shut up, no one has time for your bullshit.

Fine then. Ignore me. Cause once the enemy succeeds you are going to have to pick a side.

"""Enemy"""

:roll:

I highly doubt people like you are going to succeed.
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Postby Triassica » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:47 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
Triassica wrote:Fine then. Ignore me. Cause once the enemy succeeds you are going to have to pick a side.

"""Enemy"""

:roll:

I highly doubt people like you are going to succeed.

You don't even seem to know what I'm talking about! :mad:
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Postby Telconi » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:49 pm

Triassica wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:"""Enemy"""

:roll:

I highly doubt people like you are going to succeed.

You don't even seem to know what I'm talking about! :mad:


You linked an article about a constitutional convention. Then went on about treason, we know what you're talking about, we just think it's absurd.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:49 pm

Triassica wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:"""Enemy"""

:roll:

I highly doubt people like you are going to succeed.

You don't even seem to know what I'm talking about! :mad:

Oh I do, it's just that I think your wrong, insane, and talking bullshit like you always do. Besides it's people like you are the real enemy.
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Postby Triassica » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:54 pm

Telconi wrote:
Triassica wrote:You don't even seem to know what I'm talking about! :mad:


You linked an article about a constitutional convention. Then went on about treason, we know what you're talking about, we just think it's absurd.

You think it's absurd that I'd rather turn my back on America than follow the insane Constutuion the Koch brothers want to make? What if they actually make it that only wealthy home owners can vote? There is no limit to the amount of damage they can do In a con-con...
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