US Midterm Election Megathread II: The Stretch Run Begins

[Freezic Vast]

But luxury housing rents for more.

Why not make all housing something for the rich? After all its more profitable.

No one is fucking saying anything like that!

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Rent is plenty affordable where I live, there's no reason to implement regulations to limit it.

Try telling that to people in San Francisco or Boston

People in San Francisco chose this tbh.

They voted people who made these properties basically skyrocket. Now they are trying to limit the skyrocketing. The only people who will benefit from this are the people who thought moving to SF and Boston and other areas was a good idea just to regret it because the price of housing is so high.

This is hilarious tbh.

[The Black Forrest]

Yeah how dare people be able to afford where they live. Housing should be something only the rich can afford

Again, do you not read or are you this bad at debating?

How much does rent go for in your area?

In my home town or where I go to college? Also, kinda besides the point; Rent Control simply doesn't work.

Both actually. Usually when I hear rent control bad; they tend to pay far less then we do. Free market won't solve this as the land is way to valuable.

[Telconi]

Why do they matter?

You have a computer or smart phone? There is a high chance that computer was designed in the Bay Area and the apps on your phone are headquartered in San Francisco. Even well payed people at Facebook are having trouble paying their rent.

So basically no reason? Gotcha...

[San Lumen]

Try telling that to people in San Francisco or Boston

Rent Control and housing restrictions is what has made the prices there so high.

Then stop building luxury housing for rich people and only build affordable housing and if rich people don't like they no longer have penthouses to look down upon the peasants then leave build their mansions in some boring suburb.

[San Lumen]

You have a computer or smart phone? There is a high chance that computer was designed in the Bay Area and the apps on your phone are headquartered in San Francisco. Even well payed people at Facebook are having trouble paying their rent.

So basically no reason? Gotcha...

That wasn't a reason to you?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Why do they matter?

You have a computer or smart phone? There is a high chance that computer was designed in the Bay Area and the apps on your phone are headquartered in San Francisco. Even well payed people at Facebook are having trouble paying their rent.

My laptop is made by a company headquartered in Texas and shipped from China, and my smartphone is made by a Japanese company and shipped, likely, also from China.

Checkmate, Lumen.

[Freezic Vast]

Rent Control and housing restrictions is what has made the prices there so high.

Then stop building luxury housing for rich people and only build affordable housing and if rich people don't like they no longer have penthouses to look down upon the peasants then leave build their mansions in some boring suburb.

Then stop electing Democrats who are the ones doing it.

[Telconi]

So basically no reason? Gotcha...

That wasn't a reason to you?

Uh, no...

[The Black Forrest]

Try telling that to people in San Francisco or Boston

Rent Control and housing restrictions is what has made the prices there so high.

Left out the foreclosure bonanza which our current Sec of the Treasure made a fortune. I had a crappy flat which is now going for $3K and that is an area without rent control.

[San Lumen]

You have a computer or smart phone? There is a high chance that computer was designed in the Bay Area and the apps on your phone are headquartered in San Francisco. Even well payed people at Facebook are having trouble paying their rent.

My laptop is made by a company headquartered in Texas and shipped from China, and my smartphone is made by a Japanese company and shipped, likely, also from China.

Checkmate, Lumen.

Do you have any apps on your phone? Chances are that company is based in San Francisco or Seattle.

[San Lumen]

Then stop building luxury housing for rich people and only build affordable housing and if rich people don't like they no longer have penthouses to look down upon the peasants then leave build their mansions in some boring suburb.

Then stop electing Democrats who are the ones doing it.

And Republicans somehow care? Almost every Republican in my city who runs opposes affordable housing

[Shrillland]

Again, do you not read or are you this bad at debating?



In my home town or where I go to college? Also, kinda besides the point; Rent Control simply doesn't work.

Both actually. Usually when I hear rent control bad; they tend to pay far less then we do. Free market won't solve this as the land is way to valuable.

True, but the proposition itself is fraught with problems. By repealing Costa-Hawkins, it gives control back to the cities and counties on whether they want rent controls or not. It doesn't impose rent controls, it merely allows cities the right to enforce unconditional ones, and as Shof said a long time ago, such a provision would easily be hijacked by property developers and landlords, which is another reason that this is going to be so soundly rejected.

[Kaggeceria]

If you want neighborhoods to have higher living standards and be safer then you need good property value.

Here is a better solution in addition to rent control stop building luxary housing for rich people and build affordable housing only and there would not be a shortage. Rocket science i know

Affordable housing doesn't exactly help property value.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Again, do you not read or are you this bad at debating?



In my home town or where I go to college? Also, kinda besides the point; Rent Control simply doesn't work.

Both actually. Usually when I hear rent control bad; they tend to pay far less then we do. Free market won't solve this as the land is way to valuable.

Tbf I do agree that rent needs to come down in certain urban areas of the country.

However, rent control is not going to do much to solve the problem. There is already rent control in San Francisco, it has not helped with the problem. In fact, it made it worse as now most prior renters are mostly selling those apartments as condos. So essentially they found a way to beat the system and still make a profit.

[Freezic Vast]

Then stop electing Democrats who are the ones doing it.

And Republicans somehow care?

Then why are the Democrats doing it, causing a massive influx up people leaving San Fran?

[Shrillland]

Then stop electing Democrats who are the ones doing it.

And Republicans somehow care? Almost every Republican in my city who runs opposes affordable housing

No, they oppose our version of affordable housing. Look at places like Houston where sprawl is the name of the game. It may be ugly, and it may not be historical preservation or environmentally sound, but it is more affordable for average people.

[San Lumen]

Here is a better solution in addition to rent control stop building luxary housing for rich people and build affordable housing only and there would not be a shortage. Rocket science i know

Affordable housing doesn't exactly help property value.

In other words only profit matters.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

My laptop is made by a company headquartered in Texas and shipped from China, and my smartphone is made by a Japanese company and shipped, likely, also from China.

Checkmate, Lumen.

Do you have any apps on your phone? Chances are that company is based in San Francisco or Seattle.

Moving the goalposts much?

[Kaggeceria]

Rent Control and housing restrictions is what has made the prices there so high.

Then stop building luxury housing for rich people and only build affordable housing and if rich people don't like they no longer have penthouses to look down upon the peasants then leave build their mansions in some boring suburb.

"Rent control is the problem"
"tHen StOp buIlDinG luXurY hoUseS"

Rent control correlates to luxury houses?

[Oil exporting People]

Rent Control and housing restrictions is what has made the prices there so high.

Then stop building luxury housing for rich people and only build affordable housing and if rich people don't like they no longer have penthouses to look down upon the peasants then leave build their mansions in some boring suburb.

That happens precisely because of rent control; investors and developers are seeking the highest returns they can get. Please do a little reading before uttering more ignornance of this issue.

[Kaggeceria]

Affordable housing doesn't exactly help property value.

In other words only profit matters.

Profit matters if you want safer communities and higher living standards, yes.

[Arlenton]

Rent Control and housing restrictions is what has made the prices there so high.

Then stop building luxury housing for rich people and only build affordable housing and if rich people don't like they no longer have penthouses to look down upon the peasants then leave build their mansions in some boring suburb.

Why in the world would any city do that?

[San Lumen]

And Republicans somehow care?

Then why are the Democrats doing it, causing a massive influx up people leaving San Fran?

At least Sacramento and Los Angeles are making a effort to create affordable housing and keep rent prices from skyrocketing

[Shrillland]

In other words only profit matters.

Profit matters if you want safer communities and higher living standards, yes.

Oh, come now. I live in a rural community that's fairly poor, but I wouldn't call us unsafe. Petty crime's a little high, but that's all.