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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:26 pm

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San Lumen wrote:Voting for someone who cant win and allow the Republican to slip through with a plurality? No thanks

You henceforth lose all right to complain about corruption. Even I am willing to vote Democrat or third party when I've had it with my own side.


Have you? Which democrat?
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Postby Uiiop » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:28 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
The third party candidates for governor have proposed totally wacky ideas that are just as impractical as what Cynthia Nixon proposed in the primary.

The Libertarian candidate wants to end state funding for mass transit and commuter rail. That would never work because if the LIRR and Metro North (which are overpriced already) had to pay for everything through their riders fares would go sky high to point no one would but the uber rich would be able to afford it and they'd go bankrupt. You'd have a mass fare strike.


What about Stephanie Miner? She seems pretty reasonable to me.

I'm just looking at the her party right now but i'm iffy on it. While their ideas for election reform are good there's nothing else than vagueness on their end.
However, the age and nature of them lead this to be understandable. Still one worries that this will turn out to be some form of centrism.biz. And their apparent tendency for Neo-conservatism don't give much hope foreign policy-wise.
I'm skeptical due to that and the political climate but we'll see .
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:37 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:You henceforth lose all right to complain about corruption. Even I am willing to vote Democrat or third party when I've had it with my own side.


Have you? Which democrat?

Jason Garnar, and perhaps Anthony Brindisi. Mostly I stick with the LP when I'm dismayed.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:39 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Have you? Which democrat?

Jason Garnar, and perhaps Anthony Brindisi. Mostly I stick with the LP when I'm dismayed.


Ok. Was just curious. Had to look for Garnar. Google gave me a couple yoga guys and I was going "wow that's pretty liberal" :D
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Telconi » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:41 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Jason Garnar, and perhaps Anthony Brindisi. Mostly I stick with the LP when I'm dismayed.


Ok. Was just curious. Had to look for Garnar. Google gave me a couple yoga guys and I was going "wow that's pretty liberal" :D


Yoga is good exercise tho.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:44 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Ok. Was just curious. Had to look for Garnar. Google gave me a couple yoga guys and I was going "wow that's pretty liberal" :D


Yoga is good exercise tho.


I am told it's also good for stretching. I have been pondering it as I want to get back into training and learn a new style of MA. Gotten a little too stiff. I take it you yoga? Which style?
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Postby Corrian » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:47 pm

So Cruz and O'Rourke are debating. Bet that's going interesting.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:49 pm

Corrian wrote:So Cruz and O'Rourke are debating. Bet that's going interesting.

Ted's going to try and stoke up the gun crowd, dodge real issues he'd get reamed on.
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Postby Corrian » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:53 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Corrian wrote:So Cruz and O'Rourke are debating. Bet that's going interesting.

Ted's going to try and stoke up the gun crowd, dodge real issues he'd get reamed on.

O'Rourke is apparently not performing that well, though.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:57 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Corrian wrote:So Cruz and O'Rourke are debating. Bet that's going interesting.

Ted's going to try and stoke up the gun crowd, dodge real issues he'd get reamed on.


Given Beto has been running around saying how he wants to ban everything it's probably gonna work too. Probably not the best strategy in a red state.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:00 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Ted's going to try and stoke up the gun crowd, dodge real issues he'd get reamed on.


Given Beto has been running around saying how he wants to ban everything it's probably gonna work too. Probably not the best strategy in a red state.


Isn't he up by two points?
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* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:00 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Jason Garnar, and perhaps Anthony Brindisi. Mostly I stick with the LP when I'm dismayed.


Ok. Was just curious. Had to look for Garnar. Google gave me a couple yoga guys and I was going "wow that's pretty liberal" :D

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:03 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Given Beto has been running around saying how he wants to ban everything it's probably gonna work too. Probably not the best strategy in a red state.


Isn't he up by two points?


In polling maybe but he's almost certainly going to lose.
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Postby Corrian » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:07 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Given Beto has been running around saying how he wants to ban everything it's probably gonna work too. Probably not the best strategy in a red state.


Isn't he up by two points?

In one poll. Averages still have Cruz up by like 4.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:08 pm

Corrian wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Isn't he up by two points?

In one poll. Averages still have Cruz up by like 4.

Not an impressive amount for a Republican in a red state.
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The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:18 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Corrian wrote:In one poll. Averages still have Cruz up by like 4.

Not an impressive amount for a Republican in a red state.


Afaik Cruz had until recently not even really been campaigning.
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Postby Shofercia » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:18 pm

Corrian wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Isn't he up by two points?

In one poll. Averages still have Cruz up by like 4.


Wait, Cruz actually slipped below 5%? He's going to win, but how unpopular can he get? Texas Hold 'em needs some Cruz Control :P
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Postby Telconi » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:04 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Yoga is good exercise tho.


I am told it's also good for stretching. I have been pondering it as I want to get back into training and learn a new style of MA. Gotten a little too stiff. I take it you yoga? Which style?


Lyengar mostly. It focuses more on coordination than physical prowess per se.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:05 pm

Corrian wrote:Only 5% of Minnesota Democrats Say They Believe Keith Ellison’s Accuser

"Believe women (When it's against Republicans)"



Not all cases are the same.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:06 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
I am told it's also good for stretching. I have been pondering it as I want to get back into training and learn a new style of MA. Gotten a little too stiff. I take it you yoga? Which style?


Lyengar mostly. It focuses more on coordination than physical prowess per se.


Good to know as I am a complete nube in this area. Thanks!
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Corrian » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:13 pm

Mystic Warriors wrote:
Corrian wrote:Only 5% of Minnesota Democrats Say They Believe Keith Ellison’s Accuser

"Believe women (When it's against Republicans)"



Not all cases are the same.

What makes, say, Kavanaugh more believable than the Ellison case? Because currently there seems to be more evidence in Ellison's case while Kavanaugh's has less yet Democrats believe everything about the Kavanaugh situation.
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Postby Corrian » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:15 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Not an impressive amount for a Republican in a red state.


Afaik Cruz had until recently not even really been campaigning.

Until he started panicking apparently.

Shofercia wrote:
Corrian wrote:In one poll. Averages still have Cruz up by like 4.


Wait, Cruz actually slipped below 5%? He's going to win, but how unpopular can he get? Texas Hold 'em needs some Cruz Control :P

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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:33 pm

Corrian wrote:
Mystic Warriors wrote:

Not all cases are the same.

What makes, say, Kavanaugh more believable than the Ellison case? Because currently there seems to be more evidence in Ellison's case while Kavanaugh's has less yet Democrats believe everything about the Kavanaugh situation.



I'm not fully aware of Ellison, what is going on there?
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Postby Corrian » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:51 pm

Mystic Warriors wrote:
Corrian wrote:What makes, say, Kavanaugh more believable than the Ellison case? Because currently there seems to be more evidence in Ellison's case while Kavanaugh's has less yet Democrats believe everything about the Kavanaugh situation.



I'm not fully aware of Ellison, what is going on there?

His ex-girlfriend accused him of domestic abuse.
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Postby Dogmeat » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:41 pm

Corrian wrote:Only 5% of Minnesota Democrats Say They Believe Keith Ellison’s Accuser

"Believe women (When it's against Republicans)"

"65% of Democrats aren’t sure."
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