US Midterm Election Megathread II: The Stretch Run Begins

[Telconi]

Like how you calling me hypocrite is foolish and nonsensical. I know, but alas, I am doomed to watch you struggle...

Just answer the fucking point next time, we both know you knew what they were getting at. Explain how your positions aren't self-contradictory instead of doing this whole bullshit routine you pull with everyone.

They just aren't. It's that simple. Perhaps you'd like to give an example of how you believe they are self contradictory.

[San Lumen]

and this is relevant how? This is the same person who said they wanted a hamstrung government so if the the people dared to vote someone into statewide office you disagree with they can't get anyone they want to nominate through

And this is relevant how?

Your simply dodging and denying previous statements

[Cannot think of a name]

We shouldn't dramatically spell words we don't understand.

I was clarifying the point to you since you seemed to be struggling to understand. It's so hard to watch people not get something so very and abundantly clear.

That's like half this thread.

[Telconi]

And this is relevant how?

Your simply dodging and denying previous statements

Pointing out the irrelevance of a previously expressed opinion to the current topic of 'stuff which is illegal is illegal despite political affiliation' isn't "dodging"

[San Lumen]

Your simply dodging and denying previous statements

Pointing out the irrelevance of a previously expressed opinion to the current topic of 'stuff which is illegal is illegal despite political affiliation' isn't "dodging"

You said there is not a double standard when in come to potlical parties when there in fact is and when some called you out on past statements you instead made a stupid irrelevant comment. Thats called dodging.

You flat out said Democratic judicial nominees should be blocked and if the people dare elect someone to statewide office you disagree with their ought to a hamstrung government unable to get anything done or confirm anyone they nominee.

[Corrian]

I wish this thread was more about, you know, actual midterm discussions than this pointless repeated back and forth.

[Jerzylvania]

I wish this thread was more about, you know, actual midterm discussions than this pointless repeated back and forth.

Mr. Wizard!!!

Time for Mitch McConnell to come home.

[Cannot think of a name]

In so much as the midterms are a referendum on the presidency, in Ohio the parts of Trump they like are not the things that are important to them.

One reason for the GOP’s plight is clear, according to the poll: Trump. The president’s approval rating is just 42 percent, and a 55 percent majority disapproves of his job performance.

Trump’s overall poor poll numbers come despite earning higher marks on a number of key issues. A majority of Ohio voters, 57 percent, approve of the way he is handling the economy and jobs, and roughly half, 51 percent, approve of his handling of national security issues.
...
The top midterm-election issue for voters in Ohio is health care, according to the poll. More than three-quarters of voters, 78 percent, say health care will be very important to their vote — followed by the economy and jobs (73 percent), Social Security (72 percent), Medicare (68 percent) and national security (66 percent).

Rating lower on voters’ list of priorities: taxes (61 percent), drug prices (59 percent), guns (51 percent), immigration (48 percent) and trade (40 percent).

Of course we're now in real poll territory now so this doesn't mean as much but might indicate how they'll break.

[Freezic Vast]

I wish this thread was more about, you know, actual midterm discussions than this pointless repeated back and forth.

Agreed

[Corrian]

New CNN polls have Sinema up 7 in Arizona and Bredesen up 5 in Tennessee

[Ngelmish]

It's really not ridiculous at all when it comes to an "objective" (and I know you are prepared to pedantically and mendaciously question that term too) analysis between the parties and party actors in terms of how they interact with government structures and norms of political conduct. Point is, you have argued explicitly and consistently that you disregard structural analysis of political behavior as unimportant at best, or simply a mirage at worst, because ensuring your political prerogatives is a moral imperative beyond consensus, legitimacy, the health of the body politic or peaceful transitions of power.

Your credibility on what constitutes "extreme" is limited to those who already agree with you that freedom and higher principles consist of the outcome of a single 10 year old judicial precedent in the entirety of American history.

As for my credibility on what constitutes extreme... well, I'm sure you have some rationale or other about why it's not credible.

You could have agreed in far fewer words.

Disagreeing with and demonstrating your casual mendacity is agreeing with you now?

[Shrillland]

New CNN polls have Sinema up 7 in Arizona and Bredesen up 5 in Tennessee

This, combined with McCaskill's better than expected performance so far, makes me think that a Democratic Senate is an increasing, though not certain, possibility. Though I'm no longer bullish about Nelson, but with Donnelly doing better than expected, we may not need Nelson to succeed.

[San Lumen]

New CNN polls have Sinema up 7 in Arizona and Bredesen up 5 in Tennessee

I think a Democratic senate is looking increasingly likely. Im not going to count my chickens too soon though.

However a incumbent has not lost a reelection bid in wave year for the party in at least 30 years.

Bredesen was truly a great get in Tennessee. Hes one of the few who could have won statewide.

[Shrillland]

Meanwhile, Rep. Chris Collins has decided to stay on the ballot despite his current legal troubles: https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-officials-collins-stay-ballot-despite-indictment-163257059--election.html

[Petrasylvania]

Meanwhile, Rep. Chris Collins has decided to stay on the ballot despite his current legal troubles: https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-officials-collins-stay-ballot-despite-indictment-163257059--election.html

And if voters prove him right that speaks volumes.

[San Lumen]

Meanwhile, Rep. Chris Collins has decided to stay on the ballot despite his current legal troubles: https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-officials-collins-stay-ballot-despite-indictment-163257059--election.html

Well getting off the ballot in New York is very hard. You have to drop dead, move out of state or be be nominated for another office. That is probably how several of the defeated members of the IDC will get off the ballot. Its likely Jeff Klein the former leader will be nominated for a judgeship later this month as he is still on the ballot for a minor party.

[Thermodolia]

I wish this thread was more about, you know, actual midterm discussions than this pointless repeated back and forth.

On NSG? Hahah

[Major-Tom]

New CNN polls have Sinema up 7 in Arizona and Bredesen up 5 in Tennessee

#SinemaTrain.

[Astrolinium]

New CNN polls have Sinema up 7 in Arizona and Bredesen up 5 in Tennessee

I would really love to get a few polls in a row on Bredesen that have some degree of consistency. These last few have been all over the place.

[Major-Tom]

New CNN polls have Sinema up 7 in Arizona and Bredesen up 5 in Tennessee

I would really love to get a few polls in a row on Bredesen that have some degree of consistency. These last few have been all over the place.

I heard somewhere it's tougher in states like Tennessee due to Democratic support often being concentrated in smaller, denser areas. While this is true across the country, it's especially true in the South, where accurate samples with a small margin of error are just tougher to come by.

I think Sinema will win, judging by what the polls show and by what I know about my state. I think she'll probably win by 1-3 points, although McSally has a chance.

As for Bredesen? He faces a more uphill battle. All Blackburn has to do is continually remind voters that she will support Trump's agenda more than Bredesen. On election day, a lot of people who fondly remember Bredesen's tenure as governor may vote for Blackburn last minute because they want a Republican in the Senate.

[The Evergreen Dreamscapes]

Meanwhile, Rep. Chris Collins has decided to stay on the ballot despite his current legal troubles: https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-officials-collins-stay-ballot-despite-indictment-163257059--election.html

Well getting off the ballot in New York is very hard. You have to drop dead, move out of state or be be nominated for another office. That is probably how several of the defeated members of the IDC will get off the ballot. Its likely Jeff Klein the former leader will be nominated for a judgeship later this month as he is still on the ballot for a minor party.

the new york machines are extremely well experiënced at conjuring up lower offices to move unwanted candidates to. it's a poor excuse for collins to stay on the ballot

[Zurkerx]

Prediction as of 9/18: https://www.270towin.com/2018-senate-election/2dLJr2

[San Lumen]

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politic ... 90450.html
A fair number of a Republicans have refused to endorse Kris Kobach in Kansas and are instead backing his Democratic opponent Laura Kelly. The latest is former senator Nancy Landon Kassebaum. This is a big deal as she remains will respected in the state and will likely convince enough people backing independent Greg Orman to support Kelly. A win by Kelly is looking increasingly likely here.

Kassebaum is the daughter of Kansas Governor Alf Landon who ran against FDR in 1936.

[San Lumen]

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/ ... ria-828005

Trump has canceled his rally for Ron DeSantis whose running for Governor of Florida after he criticized Trumps remarks about the death toll in Puerto Rico from Maria being inflated for political purposes. He called him disloyal

[Arlenton]

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/18/trump-ron-desantis-hurricane-maria-828005

Trump has canceled his rally for Ron DeSantis whose running for Governor of Florida after he criticized Trumps remarks about the death toll in Puerto Rico from Maria being inflated for political purposes. He called him disloyal

Good for DeSantis.

And this actually may help him.