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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:39 pm

Telconi wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Of course, but saying that gay people turn children into rapists needs to have some pretty strong sources to back it up, as otherwise it is a really bizarre thing to just pluck out of thin air...


Well sure, it's certainly odd, but not all that uncommon to be honest.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:40 pm

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The New California Republic wrote:I mean I find it quite sad that some people genuinely think that my parenting would turn my adopted child into a rapist later in life, regardless of my parenting skills, just because I happen to be gay. The argument was based on the fallacious assumption that gay people are incapable of teaching right from wrong, to such an extent that the child would be incapable of discerning later in life that raping people is wrong.

To be fair, hardly anyone believes that.

Hahahahaha. Hahahaha. Hahahahaha.

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Postby The South Falls » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:43 pm

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The South Falls wrote:It shouldn't receive federal funding then.


They're still performing adoptions.

They're putting the church over their duties.
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Postby The V O I D » Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:37 am

The South Falls wrote:
Telconi wrote:
They're still performing adoptions.

They're putting the church over their duties.


Not only that, but if they're going to either as individuals or as a group decide that they know what's best for the kids and who the best parents would be then why don't they just adopt the kids themselves and be done with it?

Surely, that'd be a better use of their time than trying to make sure two good parents can't have a kid they want just because they happen to both be men or women.

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Postby Arlenton » Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:36 am

Geneviev wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I mean I find it quite sad that some people genuinely think that my parenting would turn my adopted child into a rapist later in life, regardless of my parenting skills, just because I happen to be gay. The argument was based on the fallacious assumption that gay people are incapable of teaching right from wrong, to such an extent that the child would be incapable of discerning later in life that raping people is wrong.

To be fair, hardly anyone believes that.

Wouldn’t say that...

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Postby Geneviev » Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:41 am

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Geneviev wrote:To be fair, hardly anyone believes that.

Wouldn’t say that...

In my experience anyways.

And the rapist thing is much more rare than "gay parents raise gay kids."
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Postby Telconi » Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:42 am

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Telconi wrote:
They're still performing adoptions.

They're putting the church over their duties.


What duties?
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White Kids are the only good enough for Lgtb adoption. Other would be better off with their parents

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:19 am

Soviet-mongol wrote:White Kids are the only good enough for Lgtb adoption. Other would be better off with their parents

Racist much?
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Postby The South Falls » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:25 am

Telconi wrote:
The South Falls wrote:They're putting the church over their duties.


What duties?

Placing the kids with eligible parents.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:30 am

Soviet-mongol wrote:White Kids are the only good enough for Lgtb adoption. Other would be better off with their parents

And why, pray tell, is that? Some additional context would be helpful.
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Postby Soviet-mongol » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:31 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Soviet-mongol wrote:White Kids are the only good enough for Lgtb adoption. Other would be better off with their parents

Racist much?

How is this racist?

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Postby Telconi » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:33 am

The South Falls wrote:
Telconi wrote:
What duties?

Placing the kids with eligible parents.


They are doing that. You just don't like how they define 'eligable'.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:34 am

Soviet-mongol wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Racist much?

How is this racist?

Saying that only white babies can be adopted is pretty fucking racist
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:37 am

Soviet-mongol wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Racist much?

How is this racist?

How is "white kids are only good enough for such and such a kind of adoption" racist? Well, you are discriminating against certain children based on the colour of their skin, so...
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Postby Soviet-mongol » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:40 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Soviet-mongol wrote:How is this racist?

Saying that only white babies can be adopted is pretty fucking racist

Adoption is generally a bad option for Kids. If anything than it is positive discrimination imho

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Soviet-mongol wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Saying that only white babies can be adopted is pretty fucking racist

Adoption is generally a bad option for Kids. If anything than it is positive discrimination imho

That explains nothing. Why should white kids be allowed to be adopted by certain people, but black kids aren't? That makes no sense.
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Postby Soviet-mongol » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:45 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Soviet-mongol wrote:Adoption is generally a bad option for Kids. If anything than it is positive discrimination imho

That explains nothing. Why should white kids be allowed to be adopted by certain people, but black kids aren't? That makes no sense.

Because non-white families are generally more supporting and have more values than white families. Also there are to many whites Kids which is a potential cause of racialism. If white Kids are adopted to gays, trannys and other they have a chance to grew up tolerant

Also I see you reported me for some odd reason. It would be more mature to talks to me directly what bothers you.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:48 am

Soviet-mongol wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Saying that only white babies can be adopted is pretty fucking racist

Adoption is generally a bad option for Kids. If anything than it is positive discrimination imho


It is a much better option than fostering.
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Soviet-mongol wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Saying that only white babies can be adopted is pretty fucking racist

Adoption is generally a bad option for Kids. If anything than it is positive discrimination imho

So you’re still being racist, just this time against white people
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Postby Soviet-mongol » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:50 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Soviet-mongol wrote:Adoption is generally a bad option for Kids. If anything than it is positive discrimination imho


It is a much better option than fostering.

I dont see much difference between fostering and adoption. It is almost the same. The best option is for Kids of color to be with their biological parents

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Postby Soviet-mongol » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:51 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Soviet-mongol wrote:Adoption is generally a bad option for Kids. If anything than it is positive discrimination imho

So you’re still being racist, just this time against white people

Racism=prejudice+privelege. So since white Kids are born with white priveleges by defaulth it is not racist to them.

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:51 am

Soviet-mongol wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
It is a much better option than fostering.

I dont see much difference between fostering and adoption. It is almost the same. The best option is for Kids of color to be with their biological parents

Why? Why can’t white kids be with their parents?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:53 am

Soviet-mongol wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
It is a much better option than fostering.

I dont see much difference between fostering and adoption. It is almost the same. The best option is for Kids of color to be with their biological parents

You should talk to some folks in the system then. It's a huge difference between being a part of a family, and just a renta-kid.

If all biological parents were capable. ALL kids are better off with their biological parents.

The biggest predictor of success in poor families is an intact family unit.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:53 am

Soviet-mongol wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:So you’re still being racist, just this time against white people

Racism=prejudice+privelege. So since white Kids are born with white priveleges by defaulth it is not racist to them.

Nope. That’s bullshit. Racism is the hatred and discrimination against someone based on their race.

We use real definitions here not ones from tumblr
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