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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:02 am

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San Lumen is correct. Let's get this thread back on topic.

What are you talking about? Mate I stopped talking about this shit about five hours ago.

But don't worry friendo, if it's any consolation I don't see it happening again. I've lost interest in helping Moderation become more even handed and accountable after Grenartia's post on this topic (which was filed correctly dotted all the Ps and Qs) was locked within half an hour with no discussion. Go ahead and bully old mate if you want. I, and many of the others who pointed this out, have revised our expectations.

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Postby Medwedian Democratic Federation » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:46 am

Adoption by sodomists does VERY WELL harm a child by disrupting their God-given morals, making them think that sodomy is something good. Adoption by sodomists is child abuse.

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Postby Grenartia » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:52 am

Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:Adoption by sodomists does VERY WELL harm a child by disrupting their God-given morals, making them think that sodomy is something good. Adoption by sodomists is child abuse.


I agree, Trump supporters (who generally, tend to be racist, xenophobic, and unwilling to provide for the poor) shouldn't be raising children.

That's who you're referring to, right?
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Postby Firaxin » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:54 am

Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:Adoption by sodomists does VERY WELL harm a child by disrupting their God-given morals, making them think that sodomy is something good. Adoption by sodomists is child abuse.

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Even if they actually practiced sodomy, ultimately the child chooses whether it's right or wrong from their view.

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Postby The South Falls » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:55 am

Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:Adoption by sodomists does VERY WELL harm a child by disrupting their God-given morals, making them think that sodomy is something good. Adoption by sodomists is child abuse.

Gay people are not sodomists. Have you heard of Lawrence v. Texas? And anyway, those people aren't abusing them.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:12 am

Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:I view this a move to appease social conservatives. By the way, why are any religiously based adoption agencies getting any tax payer money? Religion institutions don’t fucking pay tax anyway, why the fuck should they be given tax payer money?

The answer is that there's for-profit religious things... see Pensacola Christian College's publishing company.
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Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:Adoption by sodomists does VERY WELL harm a child by disrupting their God-given morals, making them think that sodomy is something good. Adoption by sodomists is child abuse.

You seem to be assuming that the child will see sex acts between the parents...?? :?
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Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:Adoption by sodomists does VERY WELL harm a child by disrupting their God-given morals, making them think that sodomy is something good. Adoption by sodomists is child abuse.

Gay people are not sodomists. Have you heard of Lawrence v. Texas? And anyway, those people aren't abusing them.

Given the GOP's efforts, they're probably working on repealing Lawrence v. Texas due to how it was based on Roe v. Wade ruling.
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The South Falls wrote:Gay people are not sodomists. Have you heard of Lawrence v. Texas? And anyway, those people aren't abusing them.

Given the GOP's efforts, they're probably working on repealing Lawrence v. Texas due to how it was based on Roe v. Wade ruling.

Repeal everything that gives anyone who's not a straight white male rights. Yep. New GOP.
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The Serbian Empire wrote:Given the GOP's efforts, they're probably working on repealing Lawrence v. Texas due to how it was based on Roe v. Wade ruling.

Repeal everything that gives anyone who's not a straight white male rights. Yep. New GOP.

It's been the GOP's views ever since Nixon took it over.
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The South Falls wrote:Repeal everything that gives anyone who's not a straight white male rights. Yep. New GOP.

It's been the GOP's views ever since Nixon took it over.

Maybe not since then, but they're moving closer to it.
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:25 am

Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:Adoption by sodomists does VERY WELL harm a child by disrupting their God-given morals, making them think that sodomy is something good. Adoption by sodomists is child abuse.

Sodomy isn't homosexuality. Besides, there is no evidence that children who are adopted by gay parents are any more likely to be gay themselves. One of my friends has two dads and she turned out just fine (and straight).
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The New California Republic wrote:
Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:Adoption by sodomists does VERY WELL harm a child by disrupting their God-given morals, making them think that sodomy is something good. Adoption by sodomists is child abuse.

You seem to be assuming that the child will see sex acts between the parents...?? :?

I mean, some of them are bound to. Straight couples continue to have sex when they have kids in the house, gay couples surely will as well.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:47 am

Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:Adoption by sodomists does VERY WELL harm a child by disrupting their God-given morals, making them think that sodomy is something good. Adoption by sodomists is child abuse.

Excuse me? I went college with someone who was raised by a gay couple and he turned out just fine. They are the only family he's ever known.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:03 am

Ifreann wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:You seem to be assuming that the child will see sex acts between the parents...?? :?

I mean, some of them are bound to. Straight couples continue to have sex when they have kids in the house, gay couples surely will as well.

I mean, of course that happens, but for a child to see "sodomy" first hand in a manner so as to "make them think that sodomy is something good", as Medwedian Democratic Federation put it, is just all kinds of screwed up. Because how would the child know that the parents are engaging in sodomy, as that knowledge is surely needed on the part of the child, in order for the child to "learn from the parents" that "sodomy is good"? Otherwise, how would the child understand and link the concept "sodomy" to the idea of "good" while involving the parents, which Medwedian Democratic Federation asserts would happen in the case of gay adoption?
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Postby Telconi » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:10 am

Ifreann wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:You seem to be assuming that the child will see sex acts between the parents...?? :?

I mean, some of them are bound to. Straight couples continue to have sex when they have kids in the house, gay couples surely will as well.


Am a parent, can confirm, kid's see stuff... Nothing like a toddler's nightmare to ruin your night...
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The New California Republic wrote:You seem to be assuming that the child will see sex acts between the parents...?? :?

I mean, some of them are bound to. Straight couples continue to have sex when they have kids in the house, gay couples surely will as well.

True, but I think the consensus among children who have walked in on their parents is umm... not favorable?

If anything, you'd think this would bias them against homosexuality.
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Postby Pope Joan » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:34 pm

The proposed law is not saying that gay couples cannot adopt. It is saying that they need to choose an agency that is not restricted by particular social values.
Catholic Diocesan Charities are caught in a bind. If they place children for adoption with gay couples they will lose a great deal of the donor base which is essential to their survival. This is why they no longer do adoptions in Massachusetts.
So let the gay couple go to Lutheran Social Services; they should be well received there.

The bias makes no logical sense. LGBT people are just as good (and bad) as straight people. There should be a level playing field.

But these agencies are not government bureaucracies; they operate within a set social context over which they have little control. It's too bad, but we have to make the best of it
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Ifreann wrote:I mean, some of them are bound to. Straight couples continue to have sex when they have kids in the house, gay couples surely will as well.

True, but I think the consensus among children who have walked in on their parents is umm... not favorable?

If anything, you'd think this would bias them against homosexuality.

Yea, no one sees their parents banging and says "I wanna do that!"
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Dogmeat wrote:True, but I think the consensus among children who have walked in on their parents is umm... not favorable?

If anything, you'd think this would bias them against homosexuality.

Yea, no one sees their parents banging and says "I wanna do that!"


Well maybe hillbillies. :^)

Depending on the age; they probably don't even understand what's going on......
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The Black Forrest wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Yea, no one sees their parents banging and says "I wanna do that!"


Well maybe hillbillies. :^)

Depending on the age; they probably don't even understand what's going on......

Then ten years later it dawns on them...my daddies weren't wrestling...they were doin' it :eek:
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The New California Republic wrote:
Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:Adoption by sodomists does VERY WELL harm a child by disrupting their God-given morals, making them think that sodomy is something good. Adoption by sodomists is child abuse.

You seem to be assuming that the child will see sex acts between the parents...?? :?



I assume that a child needs both a healthy mother figure and a healthy father figure, not two mother or father figures. And no, don't bring up the "Gender is a social constuct" sh*t. There are two genders. Women are mothers, and men are fathers. Every child should have a mother and a father.
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San Lumen wrote:
Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:Adoption by sodomists does VERY WELL harm a child by disrupting their God-given morals, making them think that sodomy is something good. Adoption by sodomists is child abuse.

Excuse me? I went college with someone who was raised by a gay couple and he turned out just fine. They are the only family he's ever known.


On the surface, he might have "turned out fine". You can not look into their brain and see the subtle psychic disorders they are suffering from due to a traumatizing childhood. Being different (or having a different family form) is always traumatizing.

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Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:I assume that a child needs bot a healthy mother figure and a healthy father figure, not two mother or father figures.

A bot? Don't overcomplicate things by bringing robots into this...

Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:And no, don't bring up the "Gender is a social constuct" sh*t.

Nice straw man, I never said anything of the sort. Anything else you think that I said/am going to say but actually didn't/won't?

Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:Every child should have a mother and a father.

But why?

Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Excuse me? I went college with someone who was raised by a gay couple and he turned out just fine. They are the only family he's ever known.


On the surface, he might have "turned out fine". You can not look into their brain and see the subtle psychic disorders they are suffering from due to a traumatizing childhood. Being different (or having a different family form) is always traumatizing.

Gonna need some sources for that shit...
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:07 pm

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The New California Republic wrote:You seem to be assuming that the child will see sex acts between the parents...?? :?



I assume that a child needs both a healthy mother figure and a healthy father figure, not two mother or father figures. And no, don't bring up the "Gender is a social constuct" sh*t. There are two genders. Women are mothers, and men are fathers. Every child should have a mother and a father.


Well you know what they say about what happens when you assume things. Let's see your supporting data sets.
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