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Postby Telconi » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:51 pm

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Not yet :^)


So when are you moving to repeal the First Amendment?


No repeal needed, a couple more Brett Kavanaughs on the court and SCOTUS will explain to us in legalese how the 'religion' referenced in the first totally meant any and all demoninations of Christianity.
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Postby Geneviev » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:52 pm

Arlenton wrote:The federal government has no business in LGBT adoption. Or marriage

The federal government has to be involved in adoption anyways, and marriage is actually something that matters to the federal government too. Unless the government completely ignores all adoption and marriage, LGBT marriage or adoption will still be affected.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:55 pm

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So when are you moving to repeal the First Amendment?


No repeal needed, a couple more Brett Kavanaughs on the court and SCOTUS will explain to us in legalese how the 'religion' referenced in the first totally meant any and all demoninations of Christianity.


:rofl:

That still doesn't cover the Separation of Church and State.
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Postby Geneviev » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:56 pm

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So when are you moving to repeal the First Amendment?


No repeal needed, a couple more Brett Kavanaughs on the court and SCOTUS will explain to us in legalese how the 'religion' referenced in the first totally meant any and all demoninations of Christianity.

Not all denominations. Religion clearly refers to Protestant Christianity, especially evangelical Christianity.
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:56 pm

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Arlenton wrote:The federal government has no business in LGBT adoption. Or marriage


So it's OK to treat people as subhuman so long as it's the states doing it?

Yes, to a degree.

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So it's OK to treat people as subhuman so long as it's the states doing it?

Yes, to a degree.


Why?
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:58 pm

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Arlenton wrote:Yes, to a degree.


Why?

Each state has its own culture, morals, etc. One size fits all leaves no one happy.

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Postby New Greater Netherlands » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:01 pm

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I agree with you, Because God actually made the man to fall in love with women and woman fall in love with men. So I also think homosexual couples shouldn't adopt and have children

But children need parents and there's already not enough people who are prepared to adopt.


Children need a father and a mother, not two fathers and two mothers, because it can harm them and make them going to go to the wrong way and becoming sinful and making wrong choices
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No repeal needed, a couple more Brett Kavanaughs on the court and SCOTUS will explain to us in legalese how the 'religion' referenced in the first totally meant any and all demoninations of Christianity.


:rofl:

That still doesn't cover the Separation of Church and State.


Can you point to me where such a separation is explicitly described in the Constitution?
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Geneviev wrote:But children need parents and there's already not enough people who are prepared to adopt.


Children need a father and a mother, not two fathers and two mothers

Two fathers is better than none. Two mothers is better than none.

Edit: since you edited your post after I quoted it.

1. Everyone's sinful. 2. Everyone makes wrong choices. 3. Children with gay parents aren't any more likely to do either. 4. How does it harm them?
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:04 pm

New Greater Netherlands wrote:
Geneviev wrote:But children need parents and there's already not enough people who are prepared to adopt.


Children need a father and a mother, not two fathers and two mothers

I don’t think any of us can be the judge of that. I know perfectly normal people with lesbian parents. Though I’m not aware of any statistics that show a trend of negative consequences of having LGTB parents.

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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:05 pm

New Greater Netherlands wrote:God actually made the man to fall in love with women and woman fall in love with men.

Clearly not, as shown by the existence of love between people of the same sex, and their ability to have sex with each other...

New Greater Netherlands wrote:So I also think homosexual couples shouldn't adopt and have children

Based on...what exactly?

New Greater Netherlands wrote:Children need a father and a mother, not two fathers and two mothers, because it can harm them and make them going to go to the wrong way and becoming sinful and making wrong choices

How?
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Postby New Greater Netherlands » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:07 pm

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Children need a father and a mother, not two fathers and two mothers

Two fathers is better than none. Two mothers is better than none.

Edit: since you edited your post after I quoted it.

1. Everyone's sinful. 2. Everyone makes wrong choices. 3. Children with gay parents aren't any more likely to do either. 4. How does it harm them?


I was editing it while you were replying

Children with gay parents ARE more going likely to sin and it does harm them because it is immoral and it can confuse them so much they can later go into raping someone or something
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Postby New Greater Netherlands » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:09 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
New Greater Netherlands wrote:God actually made the man to fall in love with women and woman fall in love with men.

Clearly not, as shown by the existence of love between people of the same sex, and their ability to have sex with each other...

New Greater Netherlands wrote:So I also think homosexual couples shouldn't adopt and have children

Based on...what exactly?

New Greater Netherlands wrote:Children need a father and a mother, not two fathers and two mothers, because it can harm them and make them going to go to the wrong way and becoming sinful and making wrong choices

How?


1. Yes God made the humans like that
2 and 3. Read my reply to Geneviev ;)
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New Greater Netherlands wrote:Children with gay parents ARE more going likely to sin and it does harm them because it is immoral and it can confuse them so much they can later go into raping someone or something

What?? :eyebrow:

Give proof that having gay parents turns a child into a rapist. Try.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:11 pm

New Greater Netherlands wrote:
Geneviev wrote:But children need parents and there's already not enough people who are prepared to adopt.


Children need a father and a mother, not two fathers and two mothers, because it can harm them and make them going to go to the wrong way and becoming sinful and making wrong choices


Let's see actual peer-reviewed academic literature regarding this harm.
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New Greater Netherlands wrote:Children with gay parents ARE more going likely to sin and it does harm them because it is immoral and it can confuse them so much they can later go into raping someone or something

What?? :eyebrow:

Give proof that having gay parents turns a child into a rapist. Try.


As I said, it can confuse them, as you can see what happens in the world, and they are too much exposed to it, so that's also why I think we should have Christian Morals and living style
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Children need a father and a mother, not two fathers and two mothers, because it can harm them and make them going to go to the wrong way and becoming sinful and making wrong choices


Let's see actual peer-reviewed academic literature regarding this harm.


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New Greater Netherlands wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:What?? :eyebrow:

Give proof that having gay parents turns a child into a rapist. Try.


As I said, it can confuse them, as you can see what happens in the world, and they are too much exposed to it, so that's also why I think we should have Christian Morals and living style

So you can't give proof for your claim that having gay parents turns a child into a rapist then? Thought so.
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Let's see actual peer-reviewed academic literature regarding this harm.


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No, I don't have to leave you alone. If you make a point without providing supporting evidence, I have the right to challenge you on it.

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New Greater Netherlands wrote:Children with gay parents ARE more going likely to sin and it does harm them because it is immoral and it can confuse them so much they can later go into raping someone or something

What?? :eyebrow:

Give proof that having gay parents turns a child into a rapist. Try.

They infect the children with the homozombie virus through buttsecks, silly.
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Let's see actual peer-reviewed academic literature regarding this harm.


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Why? For asking you to provide sources for your entirely spurious claims?
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Geneviev wrote:Two fathers is better than none. Two mothers is better than none.

Edit: since you edited your post after I quoted it.

1. Everyone's sinful. 2. Everyone makes wrong choices. 3. Children with gay parents aren't any more likely to do either. 4. How does it harm them?


I was editing it while you were replying

Children with gay parents ARE more going likely to sin and it does harm them because it is immoral and it can confuse them so much they can later go into raping someone or something

Huh? Gay people don't cause others to rape. I have multiple close friends who are gay, and I don't rape people.
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No, I don't have to leave you alone. If you make a point without providing supporting evidence, I have the right to challenge you on it.

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Just go and leave me alone, and put me on your ignore list, i don't want to speak with you anymore with your crappy talking and attacking Christians and Conservatives
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New Greater Netherlands wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
No, I don't have to leave you alone. If you make a point without providing supporting evidence, I have the right to challenge you on it.

Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.


Just go and leave me alone, and put me on your ignore list, i don't want to speak with you anymore with your crappy talking and attacking Christians

She asked you to give sources for your claims. Your refusal by telling her to stop talking to you says a lot...
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