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Which Japanese Shogunate was the most glorious?

Kamakura Shogunate
16
4%
Ashikaga Shogunate
21
5%
Tokugawa Shogunate
125
28%
MacArthur Shogunate :')
291
64%
 
Total votes : 453

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:17 pm

Genivaria wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Not unless statehood wins in a referendum that's more fair than the last one, which was worded in a way to make it impossible for it to lose.

Like a referendum done similar to instant-runoff voting?
Eliminate the least popular option and then have everyone vote again?

Yes. The problem with the last referendum is that they eliminated the second most popular option.
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Postby The East Marches II » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:17 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
Honestly at this point modding has become Inception.


All the -reich mods are kinda boring nowadays tbh, hopefully TNO will stay on schedule and drop around Q1 2019. I'm also hoping the new Modern Day Mod will be decent.


Fuhrerreich a best and a best timeline.

>tfw no Freikorps stacked revanchist government

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Postby Zanera » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:17 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
Genivaria wrote:We need to grant them state-hood already.

Not until we merge two states into one to keep the 50 niffy United States. Now which is better, Virginia, Dakota or Carolina as one???


Keep Virginia the hell away from West Virginia, kindly.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:19 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
All the -reich mods are kinda boring nowadays tbh, hopefully TNO will stay on schedule and drop around Q1 2019. I'm also hoping the new Modern Day Mod will be decent.


Fuhrerreich a best and a best timeline.

>tfw no Freikorps stacked revanchist government


Last time I played Furherreich I ended up with an independent Himmler led Rhineland whose armed forces were almost solely responsible for stopping the red menace from overrunning Europe. It was pretty great.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:21 pm

Zanera wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:Not until we merge two states into one to keep the 50 niffy United States. Now which is better, Virginia, Dakota or Carolina as one???


Keep Virginia the hell away from West Virginia, kindly.

So then merge the two Dakotas or Carolinas then???
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:21 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Like a referendum done similar to instant-runoff voting?
Eliminate the least popular option and then have everyone vote again?

Yes. The problem with the last referendum is that they eliminated the second most popular option.

I think that would be fair.
I don't much care for PR being stuck in this strange legal limbo that we've had it in.
But then I also kinda like the idea of turning Japan into a colony in the 1800's.
We can give it a fancy Republican name or something.
'Associated Commonwealth of Japan' or something. :D

The Meiji Restoration would go very differently under our eye. :D
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Postby Fahran » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:22 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Last time I played Furherreich I ended up with an independent Himmler led Rhineland whose armed forces were almost solely responsible for stopping the red menace from overrunning Europe. It was pretty great.

> Himmler led
> pretty great
Pick one and only one, anon.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:23 pm

Fahran wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Last time I played Furherreich I ended up with an independent Himmler led Rhineland whose armed forces were almost solely responsible for stopping the red menace from overrunning Europe. It was pretty great.

> Himmler led
> pretty great
Pick one and only one, anon.


My units had 140% entrenchment, it was god damn glorious.
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Postby Fahran » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:24 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:My units had 140% entrenchment, it was god damn glorious.

I need this translated into sorority girl. Someone?
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:26 pm

Fahran wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:My units had 140% entrenchment, it was god damn glorious.

I need this translated into sorority girl. Someone?


My good German boys were killing hundreds of reds per casualty I suffered. There's few things that are more beautiful than piles of dead Soviets in front of your lines.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:26 pm

Fahran wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:My units had 140% entrenchment, it was god damn glorious.

I need this translated into sorority girl. Someone?

Block that score!
Block that score!
Zero yards,
Zero yards,
Not one more!
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Postby Canadensia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:28 pm

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Canadensia wrote:Good luck attempting to constrain France Jr. with territorial status.

We'll just sign a perpetual declaration of war against them. Then they'll be perpetually surrendering.


I am torn between defending my fellow Canadians and mocking Quebec.

Well played sir, you have won.

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:29 pm

Genivaria wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Yes. The problem with the last referendum is that they eliminated the second most popular option.

I think that would be fair.
I don't much care for PR being stuck in this strange legal limbo that we've had it in.
But then I also kinda like the idea of turning Japan into a colony in the 1800's.
We can give it a fancy Republican name or something.
'Associated Commonwealth of Japan' or something. :D

The Meiji Restoration would go very differently under our eye. :D

I don't really care for it either, but we should respect their wishes.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:29 pm

Fahran wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:My units had 140% entrenchment, it was god damn glorious.

I need this translated into sorority girl. Someone?

Imagine trying to fight someone while you're blackout drunk.
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Postby The South Falls » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:30 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Fahran wrote:> Himmler led
> pretty great
Pick one and only one, anon.


My units had 140% entrenchment, it was god damn glorious.

140%? Did y'all make trenches out of your heads?
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:32 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
My units had 140% entrenchment, it was god damn glorious.

140%? Did y'all make trenches out of your heads?

This is burying your tanks up to the turrets level entrenchment, I bet they dug moats to.
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Postby Fahran » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:33 pm

Genivaria wrote:Block that score!
Block that score!
Zero yards,
Zero yards,
Not one more!

Omg! That's like so cool!

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Imagine trying to fight someone while you're blackout drunk.

I said sorority, not fraternity.
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"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

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Postby Zanera » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:34 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
Zanera wrote:
Keep Virginia the hell away from West Virginia, kindly.

So then merge the two Dakotas or Carolinas then???


No one cares about the Dakotas, just merge them.

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:35 pm

Fahran wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Block that score!
Block that score!
Zero yards,
Zero yards,
Not one more!

Omg! That's like so cool!

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Imagine trying to fight someone while you're blackout drunk.

I said sorority, not fraternity.

What's the difference when you really get down to it?
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Postby The South Falls » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:36 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The South Falls wrote:140%? Did y'all make trenches out of your heads?

This is burying your tanks up to the turrets level entrenchment, I bet they dug moats to.

Alright, so Iran-Iraq war level. That's some serious spade-using.
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Postby Fahran » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:36 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:What's the difference when you really get down to it?

Whether your best friend from Rush is named Brad or Jessica.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:36 pm

Fahran wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:What's the difference when you really get down to it?

Whether your best friend from Rush is named Brad or Jessica.

Exactly, nothing important.
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Postby Uxupox » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:38 pm

Genivaria wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Yes. The problem with the last referendum is that they eliminated the second most popular option.

I think that would be fair.
I don't much care for PR being stuck in this strange legal limbo that we've had it in.
But then I also kinda like the idea of turning Japan into a colony in the 1800's.
We can give it a fancy Republican name or something.
'Associated Commonwealth of Japan' or something. :D

The Meiji Restoration would go very differently under our eye. :D


The Japanese occupation should have never ended. Monstrosities such as anime would have never developed and the human world would have been better off.
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Postby Uxupox » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:41 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Like a referendum done similar to instant-runoff voting?
Eliminate the least popular option and then have everyone vote again?

Yes. The problem with the last referendum is that they eliminated the second most popular option.


The thing is that the United States Senate had an independent study done regarding the political status of the current situation at Puerto Rico (This is pre hurricane maria stuff) but they did found out that the political current status (the status-quo) has a very severe detrimental effect on the economy of Puerto Rico.
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Postby Fahran » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:41 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Exactly, nothing important.

Also when I drink too much, I don't get into fights. I'm just really nice to other girls in the bathroom.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

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