Right Wing Discussion Thread XIII: Do the Right thing

[Oil exporting People]

Most professionally published Alt-Hist is shit, tbh.

[Aukea]

>> Eastern Roman Empire
>> Roman

>>>literally called themselves Roman
>>>literally the Roman Empire in the East

Ben Shapiro calls himself a conservative, that doesn't make him one.

[Razarija]

>>>literally called themselves Roman
>>>literally the Roman Empire in the East

Ben Shapiro calls himself a conservative, that doesn't make him one.

ok LIBERAL

[Aukea]

Ben Shapiro calls himself a conservative, that doesn't make him one.

ok LIBERAL

Please don't TOTALLY DEBUNK me with LOGIC, FACTS, and REASON

[Saiwania]

Ben Shapiro calls himself a conservative, that doesn't make him one.

He is supposedly the prime candidate to replace Rush Limbaugh as #1 Conservative voice in the US.

[Fahran]

Sparta should've destroyed all the other Hellenics for being degenerates.

Sparta was shit, Epaminondas do it again!

EPAMINONDAS, DO IT AGAIN!!!

Sorry, Boeotia is always underappreciated despite their probable contributions to Philip's tactical prowess. Oddly enough, they were perceived as country bumpkins by the Athenians and Corinthians, and were far more rural, austere, and straightforward in their manners and character than their southern counterparts. With regard to models for conservative/agrarian conduct, I would consider them more ideal than either the Spartans or Athenians. Epaminondas especially appears to have been blameless in his conduct, excusing his refusal to get married and have children - an obligation for men in that time period and culture.

What do you all think of the hookup culture?

It's not my cup of tea, and probably isn't healthy for individuals or society more generally. Also, CM's answer to this question makes me believe that we're getting to him. Soon he'll dislike Robespierre and believe that Salazar was a gud boi.

Ben Shapiro calls himself a conservative, that doesn't make him one.

Shapiro is a typical neoconservative in many respects. Jewish Republicans tend, like Catholic Republicans, to be more moderate on certain issues than Protestant Republicans. If you believe that neo-conservatism isn't actual conservatism, this argument might make some semblance of sense.

Venetians are money swindlers that allowed and helped the Mongols plunder the entirety of Eastern Europe. They were also pivotal to the downfall of the Eastern Romans. It wouldn't surprise me that they would have tried to help out both sides during the holy league war.

The Venetians represented the majority of the League's forces at Lepanto, if I remember correctly, and they effectively crippled Ottoman naval forces to the extent that the Turks ceased to be a persistent threat in the Mediterranean through piracy, raiding, blockades, and seaborne invasions. I'd argue their contributions are mixed.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

>> Eastern Roman Empire
>> Roman

>>>literally called themselves Roman
>>>literally the Roman Empire in the East

>>>>There was no Rome in the ERE
>>>>There were no Roams in the ERE
>>>>Orthos can't be Roman
>>>>Eastern Roman Empire
The Holy Roman Empire was more Roman.

[Bienenhalde]

What do you all think of the hookup culture?

I oppose it. People should have stable monogamous relationships and save sex for marriage.

[Uxupox]

>>>literally called themselves Roman
>>>literally the Roman Empire in the East

>>>>There was no Rome in the ERE
>>>>There were no Roams in the ERE
>>>>Orthos can't be Roman
>>>>Eastern Roman Empire
The Holy Roman Empire was more Roman.

The Sultanate of Rum was more roman than the Holy "romans".

[Sovaal]

>>>literally called themselves Roman
>>>literally the Roman Empire in the East

Ben Shapiro calls himself a conservative, that doesn't make him one.

Can't really think of anything else to call him.

[Conserative Morality]

"Those who are free from common prejudices acquire others." - Napoleon Bonaparte

Typical that a CORSICAN would say as much.

[United Muscovite Nations]

"Those who are free from common prejudices acquire others." - Napoleon Bonaparte

Typical that a CORSICAN would say as much.

I chuckled.

[Fahran]

"Those who are free from common prejudices acquire others." - Napoleon Bonaparte

Typical that a CORSICAN would say as much.

CM is a crypto-legitimist, confirmed.

[Kramanica]

>>>literally called themselves Roman
>>>literally the Roman Empire in the East

>>>>There was no Rome in the ERE
>>>>There were no Roams in the ERE
>>>>Orthos can't be Roman
>>>>Eastern Roman Empire
The Holy Roman Empire was more Roman.

At least the HRE could defeat the Ottomans. The Byzantines couldn't even do that, or defeat any Muslims for that matter.

Byzantium: "Help us! We can't hold them back!"
Venice: *chuckles merchantly*

[Uxupox]

>>>>There was no Rome in the ERE
>>>>There were no Roams in the ERE
>>>>Orthos can't be Roman
>>>>Eastern Roman Empire
The Holy Roman Empire was more Roman.

At least the HRE could defeat the Ottomans. The Byzantines couldn't even do that, or defeat any Muslims for that matter.

Byzantium: "Help us! We can't hold them back!"
Venice: *chuckles merchantly*

only with the help of this badboi right here.

[The Eternal Aulus]

What do you all think of the hookup culture?

Depends. Usually brings more harm than good but it's better than parents choosing their kids partners. I think chaperone culture is better. Or double dates with friends.

[Kubumba Tribe]

What do you all think of the hookup culture?

Depends. Usually brings more harm than good but it's better than parents choosing their kids partners. I think chaperone culture is better. Or double dates with friends.

A good middle ground between meddling parents and promiscuous children imo

[Questers]

Parents choosing your spouse is sustainable.

Hookup culture is fun.

"Hand holding double dates" is just boring, doesn't solve the second problem nor enforce the benefits of the first.

[Fahran]

Parents choosing your spouse is sustainable.

It does run contrary to the concepts of courtly love that emerged in the medieval period and romantic love that emerged in the early modern period though. Arranged marriage makes sense in a society where familial ties and economic well-being take priority over love and personal happiness - though, oddly enough, married couples report being no less happy under this system.

Hookup culture is fun.

Not necessarily. People get their feelings hurt a lot more and finding committed relationships becomes a lot more difficult.

"Hand holding double dates" is just boring, doesn't solve the second problem nor enforce the benefits of the first.

Double dates can be a lot of fun if you know what you're doing.

[Questers]

I'm not saying double dates themselves are boring.

What I'm saying is that if you want to design a sustainable society, bonding people through family ties is much more sustainable than what we have at the moment. However, what we have at the moment is fun in a hedonistic kind of way - but, to emulate the former while really applying the latter (what most "conservatives" believe in) is the worst of both worlds.

[Sovaal]

I'm not saying double dates themselves are boring.

What I'm saying is that if you want to design a sustainable society, bonding people through family ties is much more sustainable than what we have at the moment. However, what we have at the moment is fun in a hedonistic kind of way - but, to emulate the former while really applying the latter (what most "conservatives" believe in) is the worst of both worlds.

I mean that wouldn't work in all cases either, than I guess nothing does. Pretty much my whole life I've lived away from much of my family.

[Major-Tom]

ok LIBERAL

Please don't TOTALLY DEBUNK me with LOGIC, FACTS, and REASON

Liberals hate him! Learn how one smol man VERBALLY ASSAULTS LEFTIES WITH COMMON SENSE!

[Conserative Morality]

Presidencies of Grant, TR, Coolidge; thoughts?

[Northern Davincia]

Presidencies of Grant, TR, Coolidge; thoughts?

All of these men are saints and should be treated as such.

[The Liberated Territories]

Presidencies of Grant, TR, Coolidge; thoughts?

Coolidge yes, Grant meh, TR no