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Which Japanese Shogunate was the most glorious?

Kamakura Shogunate
16
4%
Ashikaga Shogunate
21
5%
Tokugawa Shogunate
125
28%
MacArthur Shogunate :')
291
64%
 
Total votes : 453

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Reikoku
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Postby Reikoku » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:37 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Reikoku wrote:
TFW a nationalist but never been banned once.

Civic or ethnic?
Civic nationalism is suffered more kindly.


Semi-ethnic. I believe there's undoubtedly an ethnic component to (many) national identities.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:38 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Reikoku wrote:
TFW a nationalist but never been banned once.

Civic or ethnic?
Civic nationalism is suffered more kindly.

How?
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:39 pm

Do y'all consider me to be right-wing? If not, why not?
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:39 pm

Reikoku wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Civic or ethnic?
Civic nationalism is suffered more kindly.


Semi-ethnic. I believe there's undoubtedly an ethnic component to (many) national identities.

That most likely explains things, then.

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Civic or ethnic?
Civic nationalism is suffered more kindly.

How?

What are you even asking "how" about?
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:45 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Reikoku wrote:
Semi-ethnic. I believe there's undoubtedly an ethnic component to (many) national identities.

That most likely explains things, then.

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:How?

What are you even asking "how" about?

How "Civic nationalism is suffered more kindly"? Do you mean it's repressed here or favored?
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Postby Uxupox » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:47 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Uxupox wrote:Sunni religion

Sunnism isn't a religion


Mean't the sect.
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:47 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Do y'all consider me to be right-wing? If not, why not?

I think Pan-Islamism transcends the political spectrum.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:49 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Do y'all consider me to be right-wing? If not, why not?

I think Pan-Islamism transcends the political spectrum.

Same, but it usually takes right-wing perspectives on most issues.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:49 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:I think Pan-Islamism transcends the political spectrum.

Same, but it usually takes right-wing perspectives on most issues.


Yeah, like defending slavery and all other sorts of abhorrent shit lol

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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:55 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
There has been claims by Amnesty international that the YPG has been targeting Arab communities but it is unsubstantiated however the UN did found out that they are forcing the movement of people around which is quite concerning and even YPG actually admitted to it because they believe those civilians are associated with ISIS.


So, there's not actually any genocide going on, and Dio's talking out his ass, but there are forced relocations on the suspicion that there's ISIS involvement or sympathies in the communities being forced from their homes.

Absolutely shitty, but not even remotely close to genocidal tendencies. If anyone's actually committing (or, at the least, was committing genocide), it was Daesh.


Yes, ethnic cleansing is much better than genocide.

Of course, Kurds will be Kurds.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:57 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Same, but it usually takes right-wing perspectives on most issues.


Yeah, like defending slavery and all other sorts of abhorrent sh*t lol

According to the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah. It being abhorrent is an opinion. Also, that's not necessarily what Islamism nor Pan-Islamism is.
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Postby Herskerstad » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:57 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
So, there's not actually any genocide going on, and Dio's talking out his ass, but there are forced relocations on the suspicion that there's ISIS involvement or sympathies in the communities being forced from their homes.

Absolutely shitty, but not even remotely close to genocidal tendencies. If anyone's actually committing (or, at the least, was committing genocide), it was Daesh.


Yes, ethnic cleansing is much better than genocide.

Of course, Kurds will be Kurds.


It's quite typical of Turkey to essentially village-steal some territory on the conflicts they are involved in. I'd be surprised if they would surrender in full the areas their Turkish-backed militias have taken over.
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Postby Mardla » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:58 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Awesome, now Vietnam memes are a bannable offense. What a fucking joke lol


More like, advocating for the death of peaceful anti-war protestors is a bannable offense.

I also support crackdowns on dissidents. Failure to follow Francisco Franco leads to sickness like the Stonewall Riots and "gay rights". There must be a will to keep certain elements quiet.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:58 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:I think Pan-Islamism transcends the political spectrum.

Same, but it usually takes right-wing perspectives on most issues.

Third-positionist works fine, I suppose.
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Postby Herskerstad » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:00 pm

Mardla wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
More like, advocating for the death of peaceful anti-war protestors is a bannable offense.

I also support crackdowns on dissidents. Failure to follow Francisco Franco leads to sickness like the Stonewall Riots and "gay rights". There must be a will to keep certain elements quiet.


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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:00 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Same, but it usually takes right-wing perspectives on most issues.

Third-positionist works fine, I suppose.

Eh, true
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:01 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
More like, advocating for the death of peaceful anti-war protestors is a bannable offense.


Lets be real, if advocating death was a serious rule that was actually applied you'd be DOS lol


Except I don't advocate for death. :^3

In fact, the worst I did was say that US soldiers were justified in shooting concentration camp guards considering the whole fact of the matter that those guards were some of the most heinous pieces of shit directly responsible for the Holocaust.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:02 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Yeah, like defending slavery and all other sorts of abhorrent sh*t lol

According to the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah. It being abhorrent is an opinion. Also, that's not necessarily what Islamism nor Pan-Islamism is.

Amin, you literally defended child marriage and having sex with 9 year olds. Your monopoly on morality is kinda gone at this point.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:02 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Lets be real, if advocating death was a serious rule that was actually applied you'd be DOS lol


Except I don't advocate for death


Except you have literally more than any other member of NSG I can think of lmao

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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:04 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Except I don't advocate for death


Except you have literally more than any other member of NSG I can think of lmao


Prove it then. :^)))
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:05 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Except you have literally more than any other member of NSG I can think of lmao


Prove it then. :^)))


I would but last time I pointed out how atrocious your view points were I got banned so I'm gonna try and not give Farn a reason to get rid of me :^]

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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:05 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Prove it then. :^)))


I would but last time I pointed out how atrocious your view points were I got banned so I'm gonna try and not give Farn a reason to get rid of me :^]


Essentially, what you're saying is, "I don't actually have proof but I'm gonna pretend you do this thing anyway to act smug and superior." Top fuckin' kek.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:08 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I would but last time I pointed out how atrocious your view points were I got banned so I'm gonna try and not give Farn a reason to get rid of me :^]


Essentially, what you're saying is, "I don't actually have proof but I'm gonna pretend you do this thing anyway to act smug and superior." Top fuckin' kek.


No what I'm saying is "you do this a lot", and you do. Remember that time your ideas on how to deal with Nazis consisted of creating a communist Einsatzgruppen? Or that time I asked what would happen when I (and others) refused used to hand over my business in your little revolution? Fun times those were.

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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:10 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Essentially, what you're saying is, "I don't actually have proof but I'm gonna pretend you do this thing anyway to act smug and superior." Top fuckin' kek.


No what I'm saying is "you do this a lot", and you do. Remember that time your ideas on how to deal with Nazis consisted of creating a communist Einsatzgruppen?


If I actually said that, I'm more than certain you have proof of it. :3

Or that time I asked what would happen when I (and others) refused used to hand over my business in your little revolution? Fun times those were.


As I recall it, I said you could still do what you do, just in a non-Capitalist framework, so long as you didn't try to boss others around. :^)
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:12 pm

Kowani wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:According to the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah. It being abhorrent is an opinion. Also, that's not necessarily what Islamism nor Pan-Islamism is.

Amin, you literally defended child marriage and having sex with 9 year olds.

For who?
Kowani wrote:Your monopoly on morality is kinda gone at this point.

Islamic or human morality?
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