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Uxupox wrote:

Torrocca wrote:
"Amnesty International also interviewed residents from Ras al-Ayn and the village of Tel Diyab in Ras al-Ayn countryside who said that they had been forcibly displaced by the YPG and Asayish, the Autonomous Administration’s police force, and that their property had been destroyed or confiscated, though they said that they – and not the entire community – were singled out for this treatment.

While the majority of residents affected by these unlawful practices are Arabs and Turkmen, in some cases, for example in the mixed town of Suluk, Kurdish residents have also been barred by the YPG and Asayish from returning to their homes. Elsewhere, for example in Abdi Koy village, a small number of Kurdish residents have also been forcibly displaced by the YPG. Amnesty International researchers also observed that Arab and Turkmen residents continued to reside unmolested in other areas under the control of the Autonomous Administration, including, for example, in the city of Ras al-Ayn, which is predominantly Arab."

From the text itself, it doesn't seem to actually be a case of ethnic cleansing, either.

Forceful displacement and forceful migration of a population is considered ethnic cleansing by the UN.

Joohan wrote:

Reikoku wrote:
> when you're a relatively conservative religious person who constantly attacks liberal theology and manic egalitarianism.

Lol alright buddy. You just keep pretending that everyone who's not far-right is an anarchist like your friend Richard Spencer.

Torrocca wrote:

Joohan wrote:
Diopolis isn't a fascist-

Wait... yes he is... I forgot... everything right of anarchy is fascism!

Dio's pretty much incredibly Fascistic in regards to his ideological beliefs. At the very least, if Fascist is too icky a word for you, he's a Hyper-Authoritarian Theocrat.

Reikoku wrote:

Joohan wrote:

Can't really straw man your post when your entire post is just a strawman of mine.

Torrocca wrote:

Uxupox wrote:
Forceful displacement and forceful migration of a population is considered ethnic cleansing by the UN.

Only if it's deliberately targeting a specific ethnicity. These forced relocations - as shitty as they are - aren't being aimed at any one specific ethnic group. Even Kurds have endured this, as I literally just quoted from the text.

Joohan wrote:

Reikoku wrote:
Can't really straw man your post when your entire post is just a strawman of mine.

You compared Dio's ideology with fascism - when it clearly isn't. Just pointing out how ridiculous you were.

Diopolis wrote:

Painisia wrote:
Well, we can both agree that big businesses can create trouble. Especially if they get a hold on our politicians

I'm very totalitarian for a distributist.

Diopolis wrote:

Painisia wrote:
But why didn't distributism experience a rise in the late 19th and early 20th century? And why is it very unknown today?

Jewish capitalism and freemasonic processes colluded to destroy western culture.

Reikoku wrote:

Joohan wrote:
You compared Dio's ideology with fascism - when it clearly isn't. Just pointing out how ridiculous you were.

Oh don't play that bloody game. Your post pretty clearly insinuated that I was some triggered leftist who thought anything right of communism was fascist. As though Dio's ideas are anywhere near the mainstream right-wing.

I compared one self-admitted totalitarian who supports militarism, corporatism, and Anti-Semitic conspiracy theories to another one.

Diopolis wrote:I'm very totalitarian for a distributist.

Diopolis wrote:Jewish capitalism and freemasonic processes colluded to destroy western culture.

Joohan wrote:

Reikoku wrote:
Oh don't play that bloody game. Your post pretty clearly insinuated that I was some triggered leftist who thought anything right of communism was fascist. As though Dio's ideas are anywhere near the mainstream right-wing.

I compared one self-admitted totalitarian who supports militarism, corporatism, and Anti-Semitic conspiracy theories to another one.

Those posts said nothing of militarism or corporatism, and being totalitarian when compared to most distributists does not necessarily mean you are totalitarian. I don't know his thought's on judaism, but anti-semetism is not a tenet of fascism.

Uxupox wrote:

Torrocca wrote:
Only if it's deliberately targeting a specific ethnicity. These forced relocations - as shitty as they are - aren't being aimed at any one specific ethnic group. Even Kurds have endured this, as I literally just quoted from the text.

Not at all. You could target multiple ethnicities or religious groups. In fact we don't know in which particularities the Kurdish that were removed were part of. They could have been Sunni, Shia, Yabidi or something else entirely. Or maybe if they were Sunni then they were targeted specifically since ISIS likes to recruit from that religious demographic.

Oil exporting People wrote:

Northeast American Federation wrote:You can't just send the troops in to shoot up everyone you don't like. That wouldn't have helped things back then.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Awesome, now Vietnam memes are a bannable offense. What a fucking joke lol

Kubumba Tribe wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Awesome, now Vietnam memes are a bannable offense. What a fucking joke lol

You gotta read the quote chain to understand it.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Awesome, now Vietnam memes are a bannable offense. What a fucking joke lol

Painisia wrote:What is RWDT`s stance on the 1960s social counterrevolution?

Oil exporting People wrote:

Painisia wrote:
Exactly. Forgot the word

Ah, gotcha. As for the question, the National Guard shouldn't have stopped with just Kent State.

Northeast American Federation wrote:

Painisia wrote:What is RWDT`s stance on the 1960s social counterrevolution?

We're still feeling the aftereffects to this day, almost all of which are overwhelmingly negative. Civil rights for blacks? Good. A widespread "if it feels good, why not do it in the road" mentality with regards to sexuality and drug use that's basically only gotten worse since then? Not so good.

Oil exporting People wrote:
Ah, gotcha. As for the question, the National Guard shouldn't have stopped with just Kent State.

You can't just send the troops in to shoot up everyone you don't like. That wouldn't have helped things back then.

Oil exporting People wrote:

Northeast American Federation wrote:You can't just send the troops in to shoot up everyone you don't like. That wouldn't have helped things back then.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Awesome, now Vietnam memes are a bannable offense. What a fucking joke lol

Diopolis wrote:

Greater Cesnica wrote:So Mesopotamia never existed?

Wasn't the Mesopotamian civilization something like 5,000 years ago? Even Jericho, IIRC, isn't thought to be founded more than about 8,000 years ago.
This timeline would put mesopotamian, egyptian, indus valley, and chinese civilizations as arising in the first few generations after the flood.

Greater Cesnica wrote:

Diopolis wrote:Wasn't the Mesopotamian civilization something like 5,000 years ago? Even Jericho, IIRC, isn't thought to be founded more than about 8,000 years ago.
This timeline would put mesopotamian, egyptian, indus valley, and chinese civilizations as arising in the first few generations after the flood.

So the Kebaran never existed?

Torrocca wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Awesome, now Vietnam memes are a bannable offense. What a fucking joke lol

More like, advocating for the death of peaceful anti-war protestors is a bannable offense.

Torrocca wrote:

Uxupox wrote:
Not at all. You could target multiple ethnicities or religious groups. In fact we don't know in which particularities the Kurdish that were removed were part of. They could have been Sunni, Shia, Yabidi or something else entirely. Or maybe if they were Sunni then they were targeted specifically since ISIS likes to recruit from that religious demographic.

Considering also that they're not relocating everyone within these ten villages - and of those relocated, it's only people believed to harbor ISIS sympathies or whatnot, with no particular regards to their ethnicities - I'd still argue it's not a case of ethnic cleansing.

Northern Davincia wrote:Then they came for the nationalists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a nationalist.

Reikoku wrote:

Northern Davincia wrote:Then they came for the nationalists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a nationalist.

TFW a nationalist but never been banned once.

Uxupox wrote:Sunni religion

Proctopeo wrote:

Reikoku wrote:
TFW a nationalist but never been banned once.

Civic or ethnic?
Civic nationalism is suffered more kindly.