Right Wing Discussion Thread XIII: Do the Right thing

[Torrocca]

Yeah, it really dug under a lotta Rightist skins when it got turned around against them. :^)

Oh, wait, you're talking about Leftists who supposedly got triggered because you just love constantly attacking the Monolith of The Left despite painting yourself as a Leftist even though it's pretty obvious you're more or less not one whatsoever. Nevermind.

Tbf it got under a lot of people's skins on both sides. I saw most of the butthurt come from the left, though.
It seemed to particularly upset liberal-leftist-ish Twitter, though, despite them not cracking down any on rampant accusations of people being "Russian bots", which is equally dehumanizing. Since dehumanization is their story for Twitter's staff's dismay at the term, it's most definitely not their full reasoning.

Oh yeah, the Russian bot shit's pretty dehumanizing, like the NPC meme, but, to be entirely fair, there are definitive situations when you can definitely tell that an account's a Russian bot.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I need to take a breather here, since IDT is giving me cancer.

Do you guys believe that the United States should sever ties with Saudi Arabia over the Khashoggi Crisis? Not that it would happen, but hypothetically.

They should've severed ties a long time ago.

I need to take a breather here, since IDT is giving me cancer.

Do you guys believe that the United States should sever ties with Saudi Arabia over the Khashoggi Crisis? Not that it would happen, but hypothetically.

We should've severed ties with them ages ago.
I'm on record saying that we should support the Hashemites claim to Arabia.

Ottoman claim is better, and even better would be the Rashidun claim.

[Greater Cesnica]

Tbf it got under a lot of people's skins on both sides. I saw most of the butthurt come from the left, though.
It seemed to particularly upset liberal-leftist-ish Twitter, though, despite them not cracking down any on rampant accusations of people being "Russian bots", which is equally dehumanizing. Since dehumanization is their story for Twitter's staff's dismay at the term, it's most definitely not their full reasoning.

Oh yeah, the Russian bot shit's pretty dehumanizing, like the NPC meme, but, to be entirely fair, there are definitive situations when you can definitely tell that an account's a Russian bot.

"Привет. Я Владимир, американский симпатизист. Это сообщение было создано в 16:00 в понедельник."

"Hello. I am Vladimir, an American sympathizer. This post was created at 4:00 PM on Monday."

[Proctopeo]

Tbf it got under a lot of people's skins on both sides. I saw most of the butthurt come from the left, though.
It seemed to particularly upset liberal-leftist-ish Twitter, though, despite them not cracking down any on rampant accusations of people being "Russian bots", which is equally dehumanizing. Since dehumanization is their story for Twitter's staff's dismay at the term, it's most definitely not their full reasoning.

Oh yeah, the Russian bot shit's pretty dehumanizing, like the NPC meme, but, to be entirely fair, there are definitive situations when you can definitely tell that an account's a Russian bot.

Scant few accusations are actually in those situations; it's usually "oh no someone disagrees with me THEY MUST BE A RUSSIAN BOT".

You could also make a similar argument for the NPC meme; many people, although by no means all those accused of being NPCs, from an external perspective act very much like an algorithm responding to stimulus based on their programming, generally repeating buzzwords and common phrases predictably in response to certain things (like Trump doing anything, some copy-pasted political pundit saying anything, etc).

Both are dehumanizing, and both have too weak a basis in reality to reasonably get a pass despite that, but Twitter is only concerned with the NPC meme. Really activates the almonds.

[Torrocca]

Oh yeah, the Russian bot shit's pretty dehumanizing, like the NPC meme, but, to be entirely fair, there are definitive situations when you can definitely tell that an account's a Russian bot.

Scant few accusations are actually in those situations; it's usually "oh no someone disagrees with me THEY MUST BE A RUSSIAN BOT".

You could also make a similar argument for the NPC meme; many people, although by no means all those accused of being NPCs, from an external perspective act very much like an algorithm responding to stimulus based on their programming, generally repeating buzzwords and common phrases predictably in response to certain things (like Trump doing anything, some copy-pasted political pundit saying anything, etc).

Both are dehumanizing, and both have too weak a basis in reality to reasonably get a pass despite that, but Twitter is only concerned with the NPC meme. Really activates the almonds.

Gee, could it be that Liberals usually (not always, but usually in several regards) don't think too deeply about politics (like a fuckton of Liberals on Twitter and Reddit recently scrambling to say that people should even vote in Bluedog Democrats without an actual care for policy in regards to the Kavanaugh hearings) except in regards to doing something as simple as voting and also in defending the status quo with some bandaging of the festering parts of it?

[Diopolis]

The South came far closer to winning than might have been expected, but, given the logistics, the vast differences in man-power, and the relatively weak industrial capacity of the Confederacy relative to the Union, it was always going to be an uphill battle. Snatching victory from that situation would have made General Lee and the other Confederate officers the equals of Alexander, Caesar, or Napoleon. And don't even get me started on General Hood.

"You may talk of Stonewall Jackson and sing of Bobby Lee,
But the 'gallant' Hood of Texas played Hell in Tennessee!"

Again, not really. The British were preparing to intervene in the aftermath of Second Manassas, and the French would've surely followed.

Would the British and French have been able to project enough power to force the US to a settlement including an independent confederacy? I'm not so sure.

[Conserative Morality]

Would the British and French have been able to project enough power to force the US to a settlement including an independent confederacy? I'm not so sure.

We were prepared to invade Canada if the Brits intervened, even wrote up plans for it. France was already bogged down in Mexico, Britain's navy would've been outmatched by our green-water monitors, and Germany and Russia, both sympathetic to the Union, would've taken advantage of the shift in power on the continent.

If Britain and France intervened, it's more likely that we'd own significant chunks of, or all of, Canada.

You also have to remember the Union was essentially fighting the war with one hand tied behind its back. Civilian life operated mostly as normal, in contrast to the South.

[Proctopeo]

Scant few accusations are actually in those situations; it's usually "oh no someone disagrees with me THEY MUST BE A RUSSIAN BOT".

You could also make a similar argument for the NPC meme; many people, although by no means all those accused of being NPCs, from an external perspective act very much like an algorithm responding to stimulus based on their programming, generally repeating buzzwords and common phrases predictably in response to certain things (like Trump doing anything, some copy-pasted political pundit saying anything, etc).

Both are dehumanizing, and both have too weak a basis in reality to reasonably get a pass despite that, but Twitter is only concerned with the NPC meme. Really activates the almonds.

Gee, could it be that Liberals usually (not always, but usually in several regards) don't think too deeply about politics (like a fuckton of Liberals on Twitter and Reddit recently scrambling to say that people should even vote in Bluedog Democrats without an actual care for policy in regards to the Kavanaugh hearings) except in regards to doing something as simple as voting and also in defending the status quo with some bandaging of the festering parts of it?

Many of those doing that are leftists, on Twitter and on Reddit. Not as hardline as some, but definitely leftist.

[Diopolis]

Would the British and French have been able to project enough power to force the US to a settlement including an independent confederacy? I'm not so sure.

We were prepared to invade Canada if the Brits intervened, even wrote up plans for it. France was already bogged down in Mexico, Britain's navy would've been outmatched by our green-water monitors, and Germany and Russia, both sympathetic to the Union, would've taken advantage of the shift in power on the continent.

If Britain and France intervened, it's more likely that we'd own significant chunks of, or all of, Canada.

You also have to remember the Union was essentially fighting the war with one hand tied behind its back. Civilian life operated mostly as normal, in contrast to the South.

Oh, I doubt that. I simply don't think British and French intervention would've affected much of anything- maybe a weaker blockade.
Remember, Britain and France are individually much more powerful than the US, especially with half the country gone. I don't think, in light of their other commitments, that they would've been able to turn the tide.

[Kaggeceria]

That NPC meme sure triggered a lot of people, it's fucking hysterical.

Yeah, it really dug under a lotta Rightist skins when it got turned around against them. :^)

Oh, wait, you're talking about Leftists who supposedly got triggered because you just love constantly attacking the Monolith of The Left despite painting yourself as a Leftist even though it's pretty obvious you're more or less not one whatsoever. Nevermind.

I mean, even the NYtimes wrote an article about it.

The mass triggering was delicious.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Really activates the almonds.

Wow I haven't heard that phrase in a long time here

[Oil exporting People]

That NPC meme sure triggered a lot of people, it's fucking hysterical.

Yeah, it really dug under a lotta Rightist skins when it got turned around against them. :^)

Oh, wait, you're talking about Leftists who supposedly got triggered because you just love constantly attacking the Monolith of The Left despite painting yourself as a Leftist even though it's pretty obvious you're more or less not one whatsoever. Nevermind.

Torrocca, why do you try to blow smoke when we all know the moment you get any in return you'll run to the Mods?

[Oil exporting People]

Again, not really. The British were preparing to intervene in the aftermath of Second Manassas, and the French would've surely followed.

Would the British and French have been able to project enough power to force the US to a settlement including an independent confederacy? I'm not so sure.

Yes, the Federals were dependent upon munitions imports from the British.

[Tarsonis]

That NPC meme sure triggered a lot of people, it's fucking hysterical.

The Kavanaugh thread represented this meme quite visibily

[The South Falls]

The whole NPC thing is a bad meme, nothing to get crazy over. Though, making your opponents out to be stupid while still yammering about how messed up our political system is is not very consistent.

[Bakery Hill]

The NPC meme reflects how stupid and arrogant the people who believe in it are. No reason to be particularly angry about that.

[Torrocca]

Yeah, it really dug under a lotta Rightist skins when it got turned around against them. :^)

Oh, wait, you're talking about Leftists who supposedly got triggered because you just love constantly attacking the Monolith of The Left despite painting yourself as a Leftist even though it's pretty obvious you're more or less not one whatsoever. Nevermind.

Torrocca, why do you try to blow smoke when we all know the moment you get any in return you'll run to the Mods?

Bit of a difference between shittalking and trolling, FYI. :3

[Oil exporting People]

Torrocca, why do you try to blow smoke when we all know the moment you get any in return you'll run to the Mods?

Bit of a difference between shittalking and trolling, FYI. :3

And you can't handle either, yeah.

[Jolthig]

OEP, I asked you a question the other night, and I didn't get an answer. What makes me an enemy to your ideology? Because I'm a white convert to Islam? What have I displeased you with?

[Torrocca]

Bit of a difference between shittalking and trolling, FYI. :3

And you can't handle either, yeah.

I can handle the former pretty well, actually, to the point that I don't need to LARP as a Confederacy-loving Stone Cold Steve Austin to hide my insecurities in life :3

No need to bother with the latter when it's mod jurisdiction to handle that.

[Oil exporting People]

OEP, I asked you a question the other night, and I didn't get an answer. What makes me an enemy to your ideology? Because I'm a white convert to Islam? What have I displeased you with?

In my defense, there was a lot of posts directed at me that night so I probably overlooked it. Generally speaking I have no issue with Islamics; indeed, I see several admirable traits among them, in so far as my dialogues offsite with Black Muslims have went. My chief issue with it is that it is not the traditional faith and is, to some extent, at odds with our national background.

[Oil exporting People]

I can handle the former pretty well, actually

Of course, you handle it so well you take screenshots of it and, as noted, run off to moderation even when it's offsite. Don't pretend like you're tough when we both know you aren't.

to the point that I don't need to LARP as a Confederacy-loving Stone Cold Steve Austin to hide my insecurities in life :3

"Haha, you have likes and interests like a normal person!"

NPC meme is very relevant here.

No need to bother with the latter when it's mod jurisdiction to handle that.

I'm sure, and you certainly love to use them.

[Torrocca]

I can handle the former pretty well, actually

Of course, you handle it so well you take screenshots of it and, as noted, run off to moderation even when it's offsite. Don't pretend like you're tough when we both know you aren't.

TIL'd that death threats with a touch of racism = basic shittalking

to the point that I don't need to LARP as a Confederacy-loving Stone Cold Steve Austin to hide my insecurities in life :3

"Haha, you have likes and interests like a normal person!"

Y'know, I feel like your admiration of that prick stems from the domestic violence he's committed in life.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Of course, you handle it so well you take screenshots of it and, as noted, run off to moderation even when it's offsite. Don't pretend like you're tough when we both know you aren't.

TIL'd that death threats with a touch of racism = basic shittalking

For the internet it is lol

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Islamics

>giggles a little<

I see several admirable traits among them, in so far as my dialogues offsite with Black Muslims have went.

Eyyy! I'm a black Muslim! You just made a new friend