Right Wing Discussion Thread XIII: Do the Right thing

[Kramanica]

Didn't answer my question.

No, I am not, though I did work as a field hand for a summer back in high school.

So how do you know farm life is better?

[Uxupox]

No, I am not, though I did work as a field hand for a summer back in high school.

So how do you know farm life is better?

truth be told it completely depends on yourself as a person. do you like working outdoors with your hands doing physical work or do you get bored in a slow environment inside a building? Then yea sure. Do you like working inside a nice cold temperature room in a cubicle or something akin to that? then maybe farm work is not for you.

[Zanera]

So how do you know farm life is better?

truth be told it completely depends on yourself as a person. do you like working outdoors with your hands doing physical work or do you get bored in a slow environment inside a building? Then yea sure. Do you like working inside a nice cold temperature room in a cubicle or something akin to that? then maybe farm work is not for you.

If I have to farm in an idealistic agrarian society I want good food (no salads), and I will not work during peak sun hours unless it is cold or warm outside.

[Conserative Morality]

Didn't answer my question.

No, I am not, though I did work as a field hand for a summer back in high school.

My grandfather, a big rough old Marine who served in 'nam and once worked in a factory where shit regularly caught on fire and you had to high-tail it out of there, said working on a farm was the shittiest job he'd ever had to do.

Peasant and tenant farmers worked shorter days primarily because they had so little land to work, and even then, they only worked shorter days within the context of working on their actual farm. Their other labor requirements, both personal and social, were equivalent or greater than modern ones.

[Cosmopolitan borovan]

Free markets have problems businesses can do what they want and can pay under wages. They have higher power and r the price makers. Economics talk how economics is balanced it monopolistic competition and limited access of how can run businesses limits competition drives power. Yes free market is good but it has big problems. GOP should take heed

[United Muscovite Nations]

No, I am not, though I did work as a field hand for a summer back in high school.

My grandfather, a big rough old Marine who served in 'nam and once worked in a factory where shit regularly caught on fire and you had to high-tail it out of there, said working on a farm was the shittiest job he'd ever had to do.

Peasant and tenant farmers worked shorter days primarily because they had so little land to work, and even then, they only worked shorter days within the context of working on their actual farm. Their other labor requirements, both personal and social, were equivalent or greater than modern ones.

I'm surprised, in my experience it was pretty pleasant. It wasn't very monotonous, and was only really labor intensive for a little bit. It's definitely a lot of work in certain seasons, but it's very little in non-growing seasons.

[Fahran]

I'm surprised, in my experience it was pretty pleasant. It wasn't very monotonous, and was only really labor intensive for a little bit. It's definitely a lot of work in certain seasons, but it's very little in non-growing seasons.

In my view, agrarian life has a somewhat slower, more pleasant pace. You also have plentiful fresh air, when you're not cleaning out stalls, and more beautiful scenery. I find it winsome personally, but, then again, my elders never really let me do the more exacting tasks.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I'm surprised, in my experience it was pretty pleasant. It wasn't very monotonous, and was only really labor intensive for a little bit. It's definitely a lot of work in certain seasons, but it's very little in non-growing seasons.

In my view, agrarian life has a somewhat slower, more pleasant pace. You also have plentiful fresh air, when you're not cleaning out stalls, and more beautiful scenery. I find it winsome personally, but, then again, my elders never really let me do the more exacting tasks.

Yeah, and, in my opinion, it would be much more pleasant if it were a communal farm or a personal farm, rather than a private, large scale enterprise. It would also make people self-sufficient in a way that has been almost totally forgotten, as almost none of the population is self-employed anymore. It certainly offers more rewards than just being part of a larger system.

[Uxupox]

In my view, agrarian life has a somewhat slower, more pleasant pace. You also have plentiful fresh air, when you're not cleaning out stalls, and more beautiful scenery. I find it winsome personally, but, then again, my elders never really let me do the more exacting tasks.

Yeah, and, in my opinion, it would be much more pleasant if it were a communal farm or a personal farm, rather than a private, large scale enterprise. It would also make people self-sufficient in a way that has been almost totally forgotten, as almost none of the population is self-employed anymore. It certainly offers more rewards than just being part of a larger system.

trans-humanist crops when?

[Fahran]

trans-humanist crops when?

Trans-humanists are the crops.

[Uxupox]

trans-humanist crops when?

Trans-humanists are the crops.

crops don't have rights. nor should they.

[Fahran]

crops don't have rights. nor should they.

You're taking my witticism a touch too literally, anon.

[The East Marches II]

Trans-humanists are the crops.

crops don't have rights. nor should they.

You can take that to the devil. It is well known corn has many inherent rights such as voting!

[Uxupox]

crops don't have rights. nor should they.

You're taking my witticism a touch too literally, anon.

i live life dangerously close to perfection.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Yeah, and, in my opinion, it would be much more pleasant if it were a communal farm or a personal farm, rather than a private, large scale enterprise. It would also make people self-sufficient in a way that has been almost totally forgotten, as almost none of the population is self-employed anymore. It certainly offers more rewards than just being part of a larger system.

trans-humanist crops when?

Pls no, while I don't object to transhumanism on moral grounds (after all, Christian ideas on the second coming are pretty transhuman), I do think that it is only really achievable by divine matters. Gene editing and things like that should stick to plants and some animals, not humans.

[United Muscovite Nations]

crops don't have rights. nor should they.

You can take that to the devil. It is well known corn has many inherent rights such as voting!

You're giving away General-Secretary Khrushchev's plan, comrade!

[Fahran]

i live life dangerously close to perfection.

I don't remember having you for a neighbor.

You can take that to the devil. It is well known corn has many inherent rights such as voting!

This explains the disproportionate influence of states like Iowa, Ohio, and Nebraska in American politics.

[Uxupox]

i live life dangerously close to perfection.

I don't remember having you for a neighbor.

You can take that to the devil. It is well known corn has many inherent rights such as voting!

This explains the disproportionate influence of states like Iowa, Ohio, and Nebraska in American politics.

ever since the inception of humanity you have been a close neighbor of mine dear friend of khorne.

trans-humanist crops when?

Pls no, while I don't object to transhumanism on moral grounds (after all, Christian ideas on the second coming are pretty transhuman), I do think that it is only really achievable by divine matters. Gene editing and things like that should stick to plants and some animals, not humans.

Would the apostles themselves be against gene editing?

[Fahran]

ever since the inception of humanity you have been a close neighbor of mine dear friend of khorne.

Look, I've heard about the Eternal Jew, but I'm not THAT old.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Pls no, while I don't object to transhumanism on moral grounds (after all, Christian ideas on the second coming are pretty transhuman), I do think that it is only really achievable by divine matters. Gene editing and things like that should stick to plants and some animals, not humans.

Would the apostles themselves be against gene editing?

I certainly think so. God created us in His image, and it would be blasphemous to change that image.

[Uxupox]

ever since the inception of humanity you have been a close neighbor of mine dear friend of khorne.

Look, I've heard about the Eternal Jew, but I'm not THAT old.

That's what a servant of chaos would say.

Would the apostles themselves be against gene editing?

I certainly think so. God created us in His image, and it would be blasphemous to change that image.

God is perfection. The ultimate metaphysical being. The Alpha and Omega. While humanity will never achieve through either technological or philosophical means would it not enhance the prestige of God by trying to look as close to his image as we can?

[Fahran]

I certainly think so. God created us in His image, and it would be blasphemous to change that image.

Jews actually disagree with this argument. It was one of the argumentative traps Greek sophists set to discourage circumcision and other practices among Jews on philosophical/theological grounds. The great sages saw through the ruse and stated that G-d made us but allowed us to become better or more perfect by adhering to Torah and living virtuously.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Look, I've heard about the Eternal Jew, but I'm not THAT old.

That's what a servant of chaos would say.

I certainly think so. God created us in His image, and it would be blasphemous to change that image.

God is perfection. The ultimate metaphysical being. The Alpha and Omega. While humanity will never achieve through either technological or philosophical means would it not enhance the prestige of God by trying to look as close to his image as we can?

No, because, as you said, we can never achieve that. It's vain flattery, rather than genuine emulation. Those who emulate God in word and deed will be rewarded with perfection, not those who try to make themselves look perfect.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I certainly think so. God created us in His image, and it would be blasphemous to change that image.

Jews actually disagree with this argument. It was one of the argumentative traps Greek sophists set to discourage circumcision and other practices among Jews on philosophical/theological grounds. The great sages saw through the ruse and stated that G-d made us but allowed us to become better or more perfect by adhering to Torah and living virtuously.

But I still don't think that's a good theological argument for transhumanism, which attempts to alter the human substance through human means, rather than, as you said, living virtuously and engaging in mysticism.

[Fahran]

But I still don't think that's a good theological argument for transhumanism, which attempts to alter the human substance through human means, rather than, as you said, living virtuously and engaging in mysticism.

I cannot readily support trans-humanism as an ideology, especially not based on the usual premises or the theological ones presented here. I essentially agree with your rebuttals thus far.