Right Wing Discussion Thread XIII: Do the Right thing

[Old Tyrannia]

It unironically is. We need to nuke it all ASAP.

Aye, Parkus has been trying to get me to switch to the Monarchist or Nationalist threads for awhile.

A monarchist thread in which I have never posted is clearly not worth its salt, and nationalism is for liberals and post-liberal revolutionaries.

[Genivaria]

What the absolute fuck

have you not gotten so drunk that when you wake up you literally have no idea how you got there? happened to me about 4 times these year so far lol.

....No.
I only get tipsy not drunk, and only by myself or around close friends/family.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Aye, Parkus has been trying to get me to switch to the Monarchist or Nationalist threads for awhile.

A monarchist thread in which I have never posted is clearly not worth its salt, and nationalism is for liberals and post-liberal revolutionaries.

^This tbh. As horrid as this thread is, I love it. Damn me, I love it so.

[Genivaria]

Aye, Parkus has been trying to get me to switch to the Monarchist or Nationalist threads for awhile.

A monarchist thread in which I have never posted is clearly not worth its salt, and nationalism is for liberals and post-liberal revolutionaries.

What do you call a fascist that believes in civil liberties, political participation, and egalitarianism?
Other than a very confused Genivaria I mean.

[Uxupox]

Aye, Parkus has been trying to get me to switch to the Monarchist or Nationalist threads for awhile.

A monarchist thread in which I have never posted is clearly not worth its salt, and nationalism is for liberals and post-liberal revolutionaries.

is nationalism really for the great locke gents?

[Washington Resistance Army]

I'll have you know I'm a former libertarian turned vaguely third position ultranationalist!

Conservatism is bad at conserving things and tbqh isn't really worth pursuing, especially in the west.

I never really bought into 'libertarian' since American 'libertarians' seem to use that to mean 'I'm okay with suppressing human rights, as long as it's the state/corporation doing it and not the federal government'.

I'd like to stick to libertarianism but I just can't really support it nowadays for a multitude of reasons. I've become pretty heavily anti democratic, my ideas on economics have taken a noticeable shift towards third position ideas, I find myself becoming more supportive of "big government" things like welfare, public works etc etc.

Right libertarianism is nice in theory but I don't think it'll work all that well irl.

[Great Minarchistan]

What the absolute fuck

have you not gotten so drunk that when you wake up you literally have no idea how you got there? happened to me about 4 times these year so far lol.

last month i somehow ended up in a gentleman's club and proceeded to spend around $800 on all assort array of things. luckily i was with a few friends and they told me that they made me stop spending more money.

rip your liver

[Washington Resistance Army]

A monarchist thread in which I have never posted is clearly not worth its salt, and nationalism is for liberals and post-liberal revolutionaries.

What do you call a fascist that believes in civil liberties, political participation, and egalitarianism?
Other than a very confused Genivaria I mean.

A Mosleyite fascist probably.

[Oil exporting People]

have you not gotten so drunk that when you wake up you literally have no idea how you got there? happened to me about 4 times these year so far lol. last month i somehow ended up in a gentleman's club and proceeded to spend around $800 on all assort array of things. luckily i was with a few friends and they told me that they made me stop spending more money.

All the time. I still have never considered having sexual relations with a trap, however.

[Kramanica]

they aren't when you are drunk enough but at that point anything goes.

[Fahran]

T'was about the state of the economy back then, actually. That was heavily plagued by an interventionist state.

That's a bit debatable. I don't believe that the United Fruit Company managed to amass so much power in Latin America due solely to government intervention. They merely had the capital to buy out foreign competitors and create monopolies in countries that were largely destitute due to a lack of strong political and economic institutions.

Unbridled capitalism --> Full-fledged socialism
Sounds like too big of an escalation. Would you mind toning it down?

That's kind of what happens when you have a revolution.

Traditionalist economics? That's new to me. Mind explaining?

Economic efficiency isn't the sole aim of the state. It's not prudent to allow private corporate interests to trump public interests or basic morality in the way that occurred in Latin America or in Africa many times throughout the twentieth century. I support markets, but I support other institutions as well.

Doubt so, tariffs back then were intended for revenue purposes, for the simple reason that most means of collecting a huge amount of revenue were either unconstitutional or heavily unpopular.

That doesn't really meld with conventional understandings of tariffs or economics.

[United Muscovite Nations]

This tangent should stop before the mods lock the thread.

The one on drunkenness and relations, not economics.

[Uxupox]

have you not gotten so drunk that when you wake up you literally have no idea how you got there? happened to me about 4 times these year so far lol. last month i somehow ended up in a gentleman's club and proceeded to spend around $800 on all assort array of things. luckily i was with a few friends and they told me that they made me stop spending more money.

All the time. I still have never considered having sexual relations with a trap, however.

you are not drunk enough. its when your moral inhibitions are broken off that you truly become a human being worth of slaaneshi discipline.

[Genivaria]

This tangent should stop before the mods lock the thread.

The one on drunkenness and relations, not economics.

Yes that, stop that.

[Uxupox]

I never really bought into 'libertarian' since American 'libertarians' seem to use that to mean 'I'm okay with suppressing human rights, as long as it's the state/corporation doing it and not the federal government'.

I'd like to stick to libertarianism but I just can't really support it nowadays for a multitude of reasons. I've become pretty heavily anti democratic, my ideas on economics have taken a noticeable shift towards third position ideas, I find myself becoming more supportive of "big government" things like welfare, public works etc etc.

Right libertarianism is nice in theory but I don't think it'll work all that well irl.

how about you ascended and become a transhumanist. it is the only path to the past, present and future of both the individual and society as a whole.

[Old Tyrannia]

A monarchist thread in which I have never posted is clearly not worth its salt, and nationalism is for liberals and post-liberal revolutionaries.

What do you call a fascist that believes in civil liberties, political participation, and egalitarianism?
Other than a very confused Genivaria I mean.

I remember you being a fairly typical, socially liberal social democrat. What provoked your newfound interest in nationalism and the political right?

A monarchist thread in which I have never posted is clearly not worth its salt, and nationalism is for liberals and post-liberal revolutionaries.

^This tbh. As horrid as this thread is, I love it. Damn me, I love it so.

I dislike the proliferation of ideological discussion threads on NSG and generally try to avoid posting in them, other than this one. I wasn't a big fan of the RWDT when it first launched either.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I'd like to stick to libertarianism but I just can't really support it nowadays for a multitude of reasons. I've become pretty heavily anti democratic, my ideas on economics have taken a noticeable shift towards third position ideas, I find myself becoming more supportive of "big government" things like welfare, public works etc etc.

Right libertarianism is nice in theory but I don't think it'll work all that well irl.

how about you ascended and become a transhumanist. it is the only path to the past, present and future of both the individual and society as a whole.

I can't yet get robo body parts though

[Genivaria]

I'd like to stick to libertarianism but I just can't really support it nowadays for a multitude of reasons. I've become pretty heavily anti democratic, my ideas on economics have taken a noticeable shift towards third position ideas, I find myself becoming more supportive of "big government" things like welfare, public works etc etc.

Right libertarianism is nice in theory but I don't think it'll work all that well irl.

how about you ascended and become a transhumanist. it is the only path to the past, present and future of both the individual and society as a whole.

Embrace true equality and unity, become Cybermen.

[Canadensia]

how about you ascended and become a transhumanist. it is the only path to the past, present and future of both the individual and society as a whole.

Embrace true equality and unity, become Cybermen.

This is a strictly anti-Synth discussion thread, thank you very much.

[Fahran]

Embrace true equality and unity, become Cybermen.

Cybermen are better than Daleks in one respect. They're better at dying.

[Great Minarchistan]

I'd like to stick to libertarianism but I just can't really support it nowadays for a multitude of reasons. I've become pretty heavily anti democratic

Become a Hoppean :^)

my ideas on economics have taken a noticeable shift towards third position ideas, I find myself becoming more supportive of "big government" things like welfare, public works etc etc.

gr0ss

Right libertarianism is nice in theory but I don't think it'll work all that well irl.

I have a batch of datasheets and revisionism proving that notion wrong ;')

[Genivaria]

What do you call a fascist that believes in civil liberties, political participation, and egalitarianism?
Other than a very confused Genivaria I mean.

I remember you being a fairly typical, socially liberal social democrat. What provoked your newfound interest in nationalism and the political right?

^This tbh. As horrid as this thread is, I love it. Damn me, I love it so.

I dislike the proliferation of ideological discussion threads on NSG and generally try to avoid posting in them, other than this one. I wasn't a big fan of the RWDT when it first launched either.

I don't know that I would call myself right-wing but I've always had a fascination with a society that promotes the common good over individual wants. As WRA said public works for example.
The difference I think is that I always have the question "how do we actually choose our leaders without devolving into nepotism and corruption?"
Such was the case in both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I remember you being a fairly typical, socially liberal social democrat. What provoked your newfound interest in nationalism and the political right?

I dislike the proliferation of ideological discussion threads on NSG and generally try to avoid posting in them, other than this one. I wasn't a big fan of the RWDT when it first launched either.

I don't know that I would call myself right-wing but I've always had a fascination with a society that promotes the common good over individual wants.
The difference I think is that I always have the question "how do we actually choose our leaders without devolving into nepotism and corruption?"
Such was the case in both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.

There is no way to do it. Read Political Parties by Robert Michels.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I remember you being a fairly typical, socially liberal social democrat. What provoked your newfound interest in nationalism and the political right?

I dislike the proliferation of ideological discussion threads on NSG and generally try to avoid posting in them, other than this one. I wasn't a big fan of the RWDT when it first launched either.

I don't know that I would call myself right-wing but I've always had a fascination with a society that promotes the common good over individual wants. As WRA said public works for example.
The difference I think is that I always have the question "how do we actually choose our leaders without devolving into nepotism and corruption?"
Such was the case in both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.

A party council that can eject the person at the top if need be. Iirc fascist Italy had something like that.

[Genivaria]

I don't know that I would call myself right-wing but I've always had a fascination with a society that promotes the common good over individual wants.
The difference I think is that I always have the question "how do we actually choose our leaders without devolving into nepotism and corruption?"
Such was the case in both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.

There is no way to do it. Read Political Parties by Robert Michels.

Well I maintain that democracy that allows anyone to vote and anyone to run is the most meritocratic system we've come up with.
When you fuck up the a democratic nation you get voted out, when you fuck up in an authoritarian nation either the dissenters are murdered, or it leads to a bloody civil war/revolution.
I prefer our peaceful way of change.