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Which Japanese Shogunate was the most glorious?

Kamakura Shogunate
16
4%
Ashikaga Shogunate
21
5%
Tokugawa Shogunate
125
28%
MacArthur Shogunate :')
291
64%
 
Total votes : 453

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Postby The Eternal Aulus » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:52 am

Painisia wrote:What is RWDT`s stance on the 1960s social counterrevolution?

Absolutely horrendous. Destructing family values, can´t be worse than that.
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Postby Diopolis » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:17 am

Kowani wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:That's exactly what it means.

Waving the flag: They shouldn't care
Talking about how much you love America: a little annoying, but still, shouldn't care
Having translations: They should do that

Abstinence before marriage is better.

^This

Islamic

Yo that's cool

“No one needs to be marrying a nine year-old.”
>Muhammad slinks offstage.

Also, abstinence is perhaps the most utopian ideal I’ve heard on this site on a while. :clap:

Puritan new england had a teen pregnancy rate of literally zero. That implies either abstinence, or universal sterility. The average family had close to ten children, IIRC.
Now they knew how to run a country. Pity they were all heretics.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:21 am

Northeast American Federation wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
Ah, gotcha. As for the question, the National Guard shouldn't have stopped with just Kent State.

You can't just send the troops in to shoot up everyone you don't like. That wouldn't have helped things back then.


It's funny, since he wants the national guard to go about shooting up everyone, yet despises America and wants the Confederacy instead lmao
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Postby Diopolis » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:25 am

Torrocca wrote:
Northeast American Federation wrote:An ideology based around "hierarchy bad, capitalism is theft," one shilled for with borderline religious zealotry by you, is too ridiculous to bother actually arguing against. It'll never exist, and only a few places vaguely resembling its shadow have existed anywhere. But that's not good enough, apparently.


Oh golly gee, it's almost laughable to get lectured about ridiculous ideologies by someone in favor of militarism and traditional familial and gender roles, lmao.

Unlike your ideal, they've actually existed- and existed successfully.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:27 am

Torrocca wrote:
Northeast American Federation wrote:An ideology based around "hierarchy bad, capitalism is theft," one shilled for with borderline religious zealotry by you, is too ridiculous to bother actually arguing against. It'll never exist, and only a few places vaguely resembling its shadow have existed anywhere. But that's not good enough, apparently.


Oh golly gee, it's almost laughable to get lectured about ridiculous ideologies by someone in favor of militarism and traditional familial and gender roles, lmao.

Compared to yours it's not even weird.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:33 am

Diopolis wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Oh golly gee, it's almost laughable to get lectured about ridiculous ideologies by someone in favor of militarism and traditional familial and gender roles, lmao.

Unlike your ideal, they've actually existed- and existed successfully.

Dio, do you believe the earth was created 10000 years ago?
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:35 am

Diopolis wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Oh golly gee, it's almost laughable to get lectured about ridiculous ideologies by someone in favor of militarism and traditional familial and gender roles, lmao.

Unlike your ideal, they've actually existed- and existed successfully.


Anarchism has and does exist successfully as well, and has mostly managed to exist without murdering or oppressing people :^)
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Postby Frievolk » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:35 am

Torrocca wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Unlike your ideal, they've actually existed- and existed successfully.


Anarchism has and does exist successfully as well, and has mostly managed to exist without murdering or oppressing people :^)
Well I mean the last bit is kinda debatable tbf.
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Postby The Eternal Aulus » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:37 am

Torrocca wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Unlike your ideal, they've actually existed- and existed successfully.


Anarchism has and does exist successfully as well, and has mostly managed to exist without murdering or oppressing people :^)

Well
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Postby Kowani » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:37 am

Diopolis wrote:
Kowani wrote:“No one needs to be marrying a nine year-old.”
>Muhammad slinks offstage.

Also, abstinence is perhaps the most utopian ideal I’ve heard on this site on a while. :clap:

Puritan new england had a teen pregnancy rate of literally zero. That implies either abstinence, or universal sterility. The average family had close to ten children, IIRC.
Now they knew how to run a country. Pity they were all heretics.

Salem Witch Trials.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:39 am

The Eternal Aulus wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Anarchism has and does exist successfully as well, and has mostly managed to exist without murdering or oppressing people :^)

Well


Note that I said "mostly," and also note that I've talked about that plenty before and that I've condemned it fully.

Same goes for others in this thread before the next dogpile starts up.
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Postby The Eternal Aulus » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:39 am

Torrocca wrote:
The Eternal Aulus wrote:Well


Note that I said "mostly," and also note that I've talked about that plenty before and that I've condemned it fully.

Same goes for others in this thread before the next dogpile starts up.

Fair enough
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Postby Diopolis » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:39 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Unlike your ideal, they've actually existed- and existed successfully.

Dio, do you believe the earth was created 10000 years ago?

No.
I believe humanity was created somewhere between seven and eight thousand years ago. With respect to the six days of creation, I follow Augustine who held they were categories, not literal days, and believe the length of time represented by creation week prior to Adam is frankly irrelevant.
I'm, technically, a very hardline old earth creationist, but in spirit I'm more like a YEC. Everything prior to genesis 1:26 is ambiguous in how literal it needs to be taken.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:43 am

Diopolis wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Dio, do you believe the earth was created 10000 years ago?

No.
I believe humanity was created somewhere between seven and eight thousand years ago. With respect to the six days of creation, I follow Augustine who held they were categories, not literal days, and believe the length of time represented by creation week prior to Adam is frankly irrelevant.
I'm, technically, a very hardline old earth creationist, but in spirit I'm more like a YEC. Everything prior to genesis 1:26 is ambiguous in how literal it needs to be taken.

So Mesopotamia never existed?
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Postby Diopolis » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:44 am

Kowani wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Puritan new england had a teen pregnancy rate of literally zero. That implies either abstinence, or universal sterility. The average family had close to ten children, IIRC.
Now they knew how to run a country. Pity they were all heretics.

Salem Witch Trials.

Like I said, heretics. A proper inquisition would have dismissed spectral evidence, suppressed the few genuine cases of witchcraft, and freed the rest.
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Postby Frievolk » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:45 am

Diopolis wrote:
Kowani wrote:Salem Witch Trials.

Like I said, heretics. A proper inquisition would have dismissed spectral evidence, suppressed the few genuine cases of witchcraft, and freed the rest.

Imagine unironically believing in Inquisitions.
This actually hurts to read omfg.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:45 am

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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.
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Postby Diopolis » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:46 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Diopolis wrote:No.
I believe humanity was created somewhere between seven and eight thousand years ago. With respect to the six days of creation, I follow Augustine who held they were categories, not literal days, and believe the length of time represented by creation week prior to Adam is frankly irrelevant.
I'm, technically, a very hardline old earth creationist, but in spirit I'm more like a YEC. Everything prior to genesis 1:26 is ambiguous in how literal it needs to be taken.

So Mesopotamia never existed?

Wasn't the Mesopotamian civilization something like 5,000 years ago? Even Jericho, IIRC, isn't thought to be founded more than about 8,000 years ago.
This timeline would put mesopotamian, egyptian, indus valley, and chinese civilizations as arising in the first few generations after the flood.
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Postby The Eternal Aulus » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:47 am


That reminds me, the fact that the first ever human was found in Morocco was used by a Moroccan I know to claim that all humans were originally Berbers.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:48 am

Diopolis wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:So Mesopotamia never existed?

Wasn't the Mesopotamian civilization something like 5,000 years ago? Even Jericho, IIRC, isn't thought to be founded more than about 8,000 years ago.
This timeline would put mesopotamian, egyptian, indus valley, and chinese civilizations as arising in the first few generations after the flood.

You mean...like Noah’s Ark style Flood?
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Postby Kowani » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:49 am

Diopolis wrote:
Kowani wrote:Salem Witch Trials.

Like I said, heretics. A proper inquisition would have dismissed spectral evidence, suppressed the few genuine cases of witchcraft, and freed the rest.

Beyond the question of how do you determine witchcraft, (surprise: You can’t.)
-Actually believing in witchcraft.
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Postby Diopolis » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:49 am

Kowani wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Wasn't the Mesopotamian civilization something like 5,000 years ago? Even Jericho, IIRC, isn't thought to be founded more than about 8,000 years ago.
This timeline would put mesopotamian, egyptian, indus valley, and chinese civilizations as arising in the first few generations after the flood.

You mean...like Noah’s Ark style Flood?

Yes.
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Postby Diopolis » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:50 am

Kowani wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Like I said, heretics. A proper inquisition would have dismissed spectral evidence, suppressed the few genuine cases of witchcraft, and freed the rest.

Beyond the question of how do you determine witchcraft, (surprise: You can’t.)
-Actually believing in witchcraft.

Plenty of people practice witchcraft. They tend to be disappointed in the results.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:53 am

Diopolis wrote:
Kowani wrote:Beyond the question of how do you determine witchcraft, (surprise: You can’t.)
-Actually believing in witchcraft.

Plenty of people practice witchcraft. They tend to be disappointed in the results.


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Postby Kowani » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:57 am

Diopolis wrote:
Kowani wrote:You mean...like Noah’s Ark style Flood?

Yes.

Diopolis wrote:
Kowani wrote:Beyond the question of how do you determine witchcraft, (surprise: You can’t.)
-Actually believing in witchcraft.

Plenty of people practice witchcraft. They tend to be disappointed in the results.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
1: Noah’s “worldwide” flood didn’t happen. Smaller, localized ones did, at the end of the Ice Age, and not all at once.
2: The Ark itself wouldn’t work.
3: The animals would have died out if they had somehow gotten to the Ark due to genetic diversity.
4: Most of the animals would have died out anyway due to the climate change from where they lived to where Noah was.
5: Sloths, kangaroos, penguins, beavers...anything in the Americas, Antartica, or Oceania.
7: Humans would’ve died out due to lack of genetic diversity.
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