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Which Japanese Shogunate was the most glorious?

Kamakura Shogunate
16
4%
Ashikaga Shogunate
21
5%
Tokugawa Shogunate
125
28%
MacArthur Shogunate :')
291
64%
 
Total votes : 453

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Postby Northeast American Federation » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:56 pm

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Northeast American Federation wrote:Yes, they would have work requirements. Of course, in Ancomistan, no one could coerce you, there are no enforcers, and there is no hierarchy. You'd be required to or else....people would be really mad at you! >:(


Do you have anything to say that's an actual argument? :^3

I come onto this thread day in and day out seeing you shilling whatever weird anarcho communism you're shilling for and the same arguments from you for and broadly the same stuff from everyone else against, so I don't really see the sense in even further perpetuating that apparently endless cycle. Why can't you just go off to the Chiapas and leave us alone already, huh? I thought that place was your ideal, so surely you'd want to live there.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:58 pm

Uh guys, if someone were to say there's nothing wrong with marrying a 9-year-old, is that condoning or at least approving of pedophilia/pedophilic behaviours and tendencies? Asking cus... Itching to report someone.
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:59 pm

Northeast American Federation wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Do you have anything to say that's an actual argument? :^3

I come onto this thread day in and day out seeing you shilling whatever weird anarcho communism you're shilling for and the same arguments from you for and broadly the same stuff from everyone else against, so I don't really see the sense in even further perpetuating that apparently endless cycle. Why can't you just go off to the Chiapas and leave us alone already, huh? I thought that place was your ideal, so surely you'd want to live there.


"WHY YOU NO LEAVE TO RED PLASE COMMIEPERSON?!?!"

Sorry, but that's also not an argument.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:59 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:Uh guys, if someone were to say there's nothing wrong with marrying a 9-year-old, is that condoning or at least approving of pedophilia/pedophilic behaviours and tendencies? Asking cus... Itching to report someone.

It would be silly for them to believe such, but I don't think that's worthy of reporting. Don't take my word for it.
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Postby Northeast American Federation » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:01 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Northeast American Federation wrote:I come onto this thread day in and day out seeing you shilling whatever weird anarcho communism you're shilling for and the same arguments from you for and broadly the same stuff from everyone else against, so I don't really see the sense in even further perpetuating that apparently endless cycle. Why can't you just go off to the Chiapas and leave us alone already, huh? I thought that place was your ideal, so surely you'd want to live there.


"WHY YOU NO LEAVE TO RED PLASE COMMIEPERSON?!?!"

Sorry, but that's also not an argument.

An ideology based around "hierarchy bad, capitalism is theft," one shilled for with borderline religious zealotry by you, is too ridiculous to bother actually arguing against. It'll never exist, and only a few places vaguely resembling its shadow have existed anywhere. But that's not good enough, apparently.
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:05 pm

Northeast American Federation wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
"WHY YOU NO LEAVE TO RED PLASE COMMIEPERSON?!?!"

Sorry, but that's also not an argument.

An ideology based around "hierarchy bad, capitalism is theft," one shilled for with borderline religious zealotry by you, is too ridiculous to bother actually arguing against. It'll never exist, and only a few places vaguely resembling its shadow have existed anywhere. But that's not good enough, apparently.


Oh golly gee, it's almost laughable to get lectured about ridiculous ideologies by someone in favor of militarism and traditional familial and gender roles, lmao.
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Postby Northeast American Federation » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:07 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Northeast American Federation wrote:An ideology based around "hierarchy bad, capitalism is theft," one shilled for with borderline religious zealotry by you, is too ridiculous to bother actually arguing against. It'll never exist, and only a few places vaguely resembling its shadow have existed anywhere. But that's not good enough, apparently.


Oh golly gee, it's almost laughable to get lectured about ridiculous ideologies by someone in favor of militarism and traditional familial and gender roles, lmao.

Strong militaries defend society, and solid family units make for great societal bedrock. I know that sounds ridiculous to the average leftist, but hey, this is the "Right Wing" thread after all.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:07 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Uh guys, if someone were to say there's nothing wrong with marrying a 9-year-old, is that condoning or at least approving of pedophilia/pedophilic behaviours and tendencies? Asking cus... Itching to report someone.

It would be silly for them to believe such, but I don't think that's worthy of reporting. Don't take my word for it.

Amin just spouted that B.S in IDT, and now I find my eyelid twitching.
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:09 pm

Northeast American Federation wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Oh golly gee, it's almost laughable to get lectured about ridiculous ideologies by someone in favor of militarism and traditional familial and gender roles, lmao.

Strong militaries defend society, and solid family units make for great societal bedrock. I know that sounds ridiculous to the average leftist, but hey, this is the "Right Wing" thread after all.


Yeah, sorry but nah, the real absurdity is parroting the idea that women should be subservient to men and that we should totally keep expanding military powers.

Fuuuuuuuck that noise.
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Postby Northeast American Federation » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:10 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Northeast American Federation wrote:Strong militaries defend society, and solid family units make for great societal bedrock. I know that sounds ridiculous to the average leftist, but hey, this is the "Right Wing" thread after all.


Yeah, sorry but nah, the real absurdity is parroting the idea that women should be subservient to men and that we should totally keep expanding military powers.

Fuuuuuuuck that noise.

Not subservient, but certainly somebody has to take care of raise the kids while the men are off at work. Having nobody take care of and raise the kids because both parents are at work(well, nobody except maybe the television and the public schools) clearly hasn't worked out.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:11 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Northeast American Federation wrote:Strong militaries defend society, and solid family units make for great societal bedrock. I know that sounds ridiculous to the average leftist, but hey, this is the "Right Wing" thread after all.


Yeah, sorry but nah, the real absurdity is parroting the idea that women should be subservient to men and that we should totally keep expanding military powers.

Fuuuuuuuck that noise.

I actually approve of rampant militarism, but not in traditional family roles. Can we still be friends?
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Postby Northeast American Federation » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:11 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Yeah, sorry but nah, the real absurdity is parroting the idea that women should be subservient to men and that we should totally keep expanding military powers.

Fuuuuuuuck that noise.

I actually approve of rampant militarism, but not in traditional family roles. Can we still be friends?

We'll have to have that debate at some later point, but yes.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:12 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Northeast American Federation wrote:Strong militaries defend society, and solid family units make for great societal bedrock. I know that sounds ridiculous to the average leftist, but hey, this is the "Right Wing" thread after all.


Yeah, sorry but nah, the real absurdity is parroting the idea that women should be subservient to men and that we should totally keep expanding military powers.

Fuuuuuuuck that noise.

There's a solid case to be made for traditional family structures. Children in single-parent households are more likely to be suicidal, violent, and antisocial.
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:13 pm

Northeast American Federation wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Yeah, sorry but nah, the real absurdity is parroting the idea that women should be subservient to men and that we should totally keep expanding military powers.

Fuuuuuuuck that noise.

Not subservient, but certainly somebody has to take care of raise the kids while the men are off at work.


Wew laddie

Having nobody take care of and raise the kids because both parents are at work(well, nobody except maybe the television and the public schools) clearly hasn't worked out.


Actually, it's worked out pretty well, I'd say, considering how this generation seems to want less, y'know, war and shit.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:13 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:Uh guys, if someone were to say there's nothing wrong with marrying a 9-year-old, is that condoning or at least approving of pedophilia/pedophilic behaviours and tendencies? Asking cus... Itching to report someone.


Ask moderation.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:14 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Northeast American Federation wrote:Not subservient, but certainly somebody has to take care of raise the kids while the men are off at work.


Wew laddie

Having nobody take care of and raise the kids because both parents are at work(well, nobody except maybe the television and the public schools) clearly hasn't worked out.


Actually, it's worked out pretty well, I'd say, considering how this generation seems to want less, y'know, war and shit.

How on earth does being a latchkey kid make you anti-war?
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:15 pm

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Northeast American Federation wrote:Not subservient, but certainly somebody has to take care of raise the kids while the men are off at work.


Wew laddie


For one, I absolutely hate the idea that housework and raising children is somehow seen as degrading and inferior. It's absolutely not, hell, it's probably the most important, far reaching thing a person can do.

That being said, men can do it too and it's not exclusive to women.
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Postby Northeast American Federation » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:16 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Northeast American Federation wrote:Having nobody take care of and raise the kids because both parents are at work(well, nobody except maybe the television and the public schools) clearly hasn't worked out.


Actually, it's worked out pretty well, I'd say, considering how this generation seems to want less, y'know, war and shit.


Plenty of people from previous generations raised by traditional families weren't always big fans of war either. Can't just go by that. And even if you do, the mainstream media sure was quick to get behind us going into Iraq, a war which at this point most people on both sides of the aisle think was a bad idea.
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:17 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Wew laddie



Actually, it's worked out pretty well, I'd say, considering how this generation seems to want less, y'know, war and shit.

How on earth does being a latchkey kid make you anti-war?


You do know that term was coined because of the fact that children went home to parentless homes because of war, right?

By that metric alone NAF's bullshit about militarism and traditional familial/gender roles is beyond asinine.

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Torrocca wrote:
Wew laddie


For one, I absolutely hate the idea that housework and raising children is somehow seen as degrading and inferior. It's absolutely not, hell, it's probably the most important, far reaching thing a person can do.

That being said, men can do it too and it's not exclusive to women.


I mean, yeah, housework on its own isn't a problem.

The problem arises when people decide it's a good idea that one specific gender has to do that shit.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:18 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Wew laddie


For one, I absolutely hate the idea that housework and raising children is somehow seen as degrading and inferior. It's absolutely not, hell, it's probably the most important, far reaching thing a person can do.

That being said, men can do it too and it's not exclusive to women.

Obviously, a man should contribute to housework, but his role is that of breadwinner, first and foremost.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:25 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
For one, I absolutely hate the idea that housework and raising children is somehow seen as degrading and inferior. It's absolutely not, hell, it's probably the most important, far reaching thing a person can do.

That being said, men can do it too and it's not exclusive to women.

Obviously, a man should contribute to housework, but his role is that of breadwinner, first and foremost.


I'm less strict about that, really. So long as families stay together they can work that bit out however as far as I'm concerned.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:26 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Yeah, sorry but nah, the real absurdity is parroting the idea that women should be subservient to men and that we should totally keep expanding military powers.

Fuuuuuuuck that noise.

There's a solid case to be made for traditional family structures. Children in single-parent households are more likely to be suicidal, violent, and antisocial.

If by 'traditional family structures' you mean 'extended family structures', I agree.

If you mean 'the nuclear family', on the other hand...
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:26 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
For one, I absolutely hate the idea that housework and raising children is somehow seen as degrading and inferior. It's absolutely not, hell, it's probably the most important, far reaching thing a person can do.

That being said, men can do it too and it's not exclusive to women.

Obviously, a man should contribute to housework, but his role is that of breadwinner, first and foremost.


Oh how about no, and we not force people to conform to gender roles?
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Postby Northeast American Federation » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:27 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:There's a solid case to be made for traditional family structures. Children in single-parent households are more likely to be suicidal, violent, and antisocial.

If by 'traditional family structures' you mean 'extended family structures', I agree.

If you mean 'the nuclear family', on the other hand...

What's so horribly evil about the nuclear family?
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:29 pm

Northeast American Federation wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Actually, it's worked out pretty well, I'd say, considering how this generation seems to want less, y'know, war and shit.


Plenty of people from previous generations raised by traditional families weren't always big fans of war either.


Except your entire bullshit about peddling militarism (which'll undoubtedly lead to more war) will just lead to more children coming home to empty households, despite your notion that non-traditional family structures would cause this. Hence your ideas on this matter are utterly asinine and ridiculous.
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