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Which Japanese Shogunate was the most glorious?

Kamakura Shogunate
16
4%
Ashikaga Shogunate
21
5%
Tokugawa Shogunate
125
28%
MacArthur Shogunate :')
291
64%
 
Total votes : 453

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El-Amin Caliphate
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:00 pm

Kustonia, what country do you live in right now?
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Kustonia
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Postby Kustonia » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:02 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Kustonia, what country do you live in right now?


You know I don't have to answer this question, yet, your coercive methods to try and have me assassinated won't work.

I'm all too familiar with your migrant ways.
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Jolthig
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Postby Jolthig » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:03 pm

Kustonia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:^ This. Also, Kustonia, I'm not an immigrant. I was born and raised in the US, like my parents, grandparents, great grandparents all the way to my ancestors stolen from Africa.


And you belong where you ancestors were stolen from. After all, if they weren't stolen, you wouldn't be in the US. You would be living it up in a great African palace with an amazing cultural atmosphere.

Oh please. This bogus again?

Btw, I'm a white American convert to Islam. Am I an enemy to your ideology now? Your ignorant referral to migrants and accusing Amin of being one is hilarious.

How about more of your nonsense arguments? :rofl:
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The South Falls
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Postby The South Falls » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:03 pm

Kustonia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Kustonia, what country do you live in right now?


You know I don't have to answer this question, yet, your coercive methods to try and have me assassinated won't work.

I mean, maybe he just wants to send you a cookie.


White of course.


You don't seem to accept much else.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:04 pm

Kustonia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Kustonia, what country do you live in right now?


You know I don't have to answer this question, yet, your coercive methods to try and have me assassinated won't work.

:rofl:
This legit made me laugh lol.
Also, pretty ironic of you to say that, considering that you accused me of being a terroristic migrant.
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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:04 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Jolthig wrote:What 'true intentions' does Amin have?


What all intentions migrants have. To have you open up your home to them, and then take advantage of you and your family.


Imagine unironically saying you're in favor of socialism and then wanking out this far-right talking point that migrants and refugees are uncivilized savages.
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Jolthig
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Postby Jolthig » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:06 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
What all intentions migrants have. To have you open up your home to them, and then take advantage of you and your family.


Imagine unironically saying you're in favor of socialism and then wanking out this far-right talking point that migrants and refugees are uncivilized savages.

And it's exactly how the Nazis came to power in Germany by taking advantage of the working class to gain sympathy.
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Postby The South Falls » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:07 pm

Kustonia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:^ This. Also, Kustonia, I'm not an immigrant. I was born and raised in the US, like my parents, grandparents, great grandparents all the way to my ancestors stolen from Africa.


And you belong where you ancestors were stolen from. After all, if they weren't stolen, you wouldn't be in the US. You would be living it up in a great African palace with an amazing cultural atmosphere.

Please. Please. Please stop. Chances are I would have been a farmer. Same with you. This is how this worked. Unless you were related to royalty, there'd be no way to advance for you, or me.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:11 pm

And Kustonia, how am I racist?
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Postby Kustonia » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:11 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
What all intentions migrants have. To have you open up your home to them, and then take advantage of you and your family.


Imagine unironically saying you're in favor of socialism and then wanking out this far-right talking point that migrants and refugees are uncivilized savages.


There's a term I use - "Alienation of the Folk" which is racial oppression by migrants and refugees to destroy racial collectives and the socialism of the nation.
I'm a National Syndicalist, Traditionalist, White Nationalist
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Favorite Philosophers/Theoreticians: Plato, Julius Evola, Ernst Jünger, Oswald Spengler, Carl Schmitt, Aleksandr Dugin, Alain De Benoist, Georges Sorel
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The South Falls
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Postby The South Falls » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:12 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Imagine unironically saying you're in favor of socialism and then wanking out this far-right talking point that migrants and refugees are uncivilized savages.


There's a term I use - "Alienation of the Folk" which is racial oppression by migrants and refugees to destroy racial collectives and the socialism of the nation.

I think that's wrong. I'm a second-gen immigrant. I haven't, neither have my parents, done anything to "Destroy racial collectives".
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Jolthig
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Postby Jolthig » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:13 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Imagine unironically saying you're in favor of socialism and then wanking out this far-right talking point that migrants and refugees are uncivilized savages.


There's a term I use - "Alienation of the Folk" which is racial oppression by migrants and refugees to destroy racial collectives and the socialism of the nation.

:rofl:

It's almost like you're making fun of your own arguments.

Holy cow this is an ignorant statement. I highly doubt minorities even have the power to influence the majority unless someone in the majority sides with them along with many of the majority.

This nonsense view is why the Nazis got in power in Germany and why the Jim Crox laws were passed in the southern states. How are refugees and migrants any different in your "logic"?

Pull another one.
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Jolthig
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Postby Jolthig » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:15 pm

If you want a case of the minority oppressing the majority, it's apartheid era South Africa. The white minority.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:17 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Imagine unironically saying you're in favor of socialism and then wanking out this far-right talking point that migrants and refugees are uncivilized savages.


There's a term I use - "Alienation of the Folk" which is racial oppression by migrants and refugees to destroy racial collectives and the socialism of the nation.

1: Where is this happening?
2: Some nations were never socialists.
3: Some immigrants are socialist.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:18 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Imagine unironically saying you're in favor of socialism and then wanking out this far-right talking point that migrants and refugees are uncivilized savages.


There's a term I use - "Alienation of the Folk" which is racial oppression by migrants and refugees to destroy racial collectives and the socialism of the nation.


In essence, you're another Nazi trying to use leftist terminology for your own shitty political leverage.
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Postby Jolthig » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:19 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
There's a term I use - "Alienation of the Folk" which is racial oppression by migrants and refugees to destroy racial collectives and the socialism of the nation.


In essence, you're another Nazi trying to use leftist terminology for your own shitty political leverage.

And it's disgusting too. I'm not socialist, but I know for a fact what he advocates isn't socialism at all or even collectivist.
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Postby The South Falls » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:22 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
In essence, you're another Nazi trying to use leftist terminology for your own shitty political leverage.

And it's disgusting too. I'm not socialist, but I know for a fact what he advocates isn't socialism at all or even collectivist.

If what he's advocating is socialism, then I'm an AnCap.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:23 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Jolthig wrote:And it's disgusting too. I'm not socialist, but I know for a fact what he advocates isn't socialism at all or even collectivist.

If what he's advocating is socialism, then I'm an AnCap.

And I'm a laicitist.
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Postby Jolthig » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:23 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Jolthig wrote:And it's disgusting too. I'm not socialist, but I know for a fact what he advocates isn't socialism at all or even collectivist.

If what he's advocating is socialism, then I'm an AnCap.

AnCap? Anti-capitalist?
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Postby Herskerstad » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:23 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Genivaria wrote:So you're pro-slavery.

If it's according to the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah, yes.


Well there goes forever your relevance in discussing anything related to oppression ever.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:24 pm

Jolthig wrote:
The South Falls wrote:If what he's advocating is socialism, then I'm an AnCap.

AnCap? Anti-capitalist?


Anarcho-Capitalist, AKA a political oxymoron.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:25 pm

Jolthig wrote:
The South Falls wrote:If what he's advocating is socialism, then I'm an AnCap.

AnCap? Anti-capitalist?

Anarcho-capitalist
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:25 pm

Herskerstad wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:If it's according to the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah, yes.


Well there goes forever your relevance in discussing anything related to oppression ever.

Idc what you think.
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Postby Jolthig » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:25 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Jolthig wrote:AnCap? Anti-capitalist?


Anarcho-Capitalist, AKA a political oxymoron.

Agreed.

"Anarcho-capitalism" = Enslavement of the people by megacorporations.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:25 pm

Kustonia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:^ This. Also, Kustonia, I'm not an immigrant. I was born and raised in the US, like my parents, grandparents, great grandparents all the way to my ancestors stolen from Africa.


And you belong where you ancestors were stolen from. After all, if they weren't stolen, you wouldn't be in the US. You would be living it up in a great African palace with an amazing cultural atmosphere.


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