Moderates could easily form a coalition with some of their alliance parties and the SD.
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by Freezic Vast » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:53 pm

by San Lumen » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:53 pm
Borinsa wrote:Cekoviu wrote:why should citizens not get to vote? whether they're migrants doesn't factor into it, and even if you took out all the migrants it's unlikely that sverigedemokraterna would have a majority. they wouldn't exist without migrants in the first place.
I meant the ones who aren't citizens...

by Thermodolia » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:54 pm
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Exactly when did these Nazis found the SD?
Meet [url=https://sv.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustaf_Ekström]Rottenführer Gustav Ekström[/url], member of SS-Panzer-, and SS-Panzergrenadier-Divisions Wiking and Nordland, the co-founder and board member of the Sweden Democrats in 1988.

by Borinsa » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:54 pm
Thermodolia wrote:Cekoviu wrote:sweden's problem is not diversity. sweden's problem was that it brought in too many people at once, which made the infrastructure take a hit. the skin color of the people who were brought in had nothing to do with it; the same would've occurred if the immigrants were norwegian.
Pretty much this. Unchecked immigration is bad as is closing the borders. They are both extremes

by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:54 pm

by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:55 pm
Thermodolia wrote:Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Meet [url=https://sv.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustaf_Ekström]Rottenführer Gustav Ekström[/url], member of SS-Panzer-, and SS-Panzergrenadier-Divisions Wiking and Nordland, the co-founder and board member of the Sweden Democrats in 1988.
Either way the modern SD has since distanced themselves from fascism.

by Borinsa » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:55 pm
Thermodolia wrote:Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Meet [url=https://sv.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustaf_Ekström]Rottenführer Gustav Ekström[/url], member of SS-Panzer-, and SS-Panzergrenadier-Divisions Wiking and Nordland, the co-founder and board member of the Sweden Democrats in 1988.
Either way the modern SD has since distanced themselves from fascism.

by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:55 pm

by Borinsa » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:56 pm

by Thermodolia » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:56 pm
Herskerstad wrote:Well, Karl I Hagen is asking the moderates to talk with SD.
Should that happen, that would be interesting.

by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:56 pm

by Borinsa » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:56 pm

by Chan Island » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:56 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

by Thermodolia » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:57 pm

by Thermodolia » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:58 pm

by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:58 pm

by Borinsa » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:58 pm

by Borinsa » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:58 pm
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Borinsa wrote:
Could you show them to us?
If you could read Swedish that is...

by Thermodolia » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:59 pm

by Thermodolia » Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:01 pm
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Borinsa wrote:
Could you show them to us?
If you could read Swedish that is...

by Chan Island » Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:02 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:03 pm
Thermodolia wrote:Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:If you could read Swedish that is...
Outside of a lot of white supremacy and other bullshit I’m not seeing a lot of a rip-off of the Nuremberg laws.
"We differentiate between a Swedish citizenship and Swedish nationality... we believe that it is best for Sweden if a majority of the citizens belonged to the Swedish nationality. We realise that some may not be Swedish nationals, but we have no issues with this as long as these *foreign elements* are limited, obeys Swedish laws, traditions and customs and does not create segregation and difficulties"
So from the Reich Citizenship Law:
Article 1
A subject of the state is a person who enjoys the protection of the German Reich and who in consequence has specific obligations toward it.
Article 2
A Reich citizen is a subject of the state who is of German or related blood, and proves by his conduct that he is willing and fit to faithfully serve the German people and Reich.
Den som är svensk medborgare skall inte kunna inneha annat medborgarskap utöver det svenska och endast svenska medborgare skall ha rösträtt i allmänna val.
Swedish Citizens cannot have any other citizenship apart from the Swedish one and only Swedish citizens can be allowed to vote
The Reich citizen is the sole bearer of full political rights in accordance with the law.

by Borinsa » Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:04 pm
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Borinsa wrote:
Could you show them to us?
If you could read Swedish that is...

by Borinsa » Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:05 pm
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Outside of a lot of white supremacy and other bullshit I’m not seeing a lot of a rip-off of the Nuremberg laws.
So to begin with:"We differentiate between a Swedish citizenship and Swedish nationality... we believe that it is best for Sweden if a majority of the citizens belonged to the Swedish nationality. We realise that some may not be Swedish nationals, but we have no issues with this as long as these *foreign elements* are limited, obeys Swedish laws, traditions and customs and does not create segregation and difficulties"So from the Reich Citizenship Law:
Article 1
A subject of the state is a person who enjoys the protection of the German Reich and who in consequence has specific obligations toward it.
Article 2
A Reich citizen is a subject of the state who is of German or related blood, and proves by his conduct that he is willing and fit to faithfully serve the German people and Reich.
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