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S
33
17%
SD
93
47%
M
8
4%
C
6
3%
V
19
10%
L
15
8%
MP
3
2%
KD
12
6%
Other
9
5%
 
Total votes : 198

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Freezic Vast
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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:53 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:You just did though, you said that because the majority (More like a plurality) didn't vote for them, they don't get a say.


They got seats they have a say. just not the majority nor will they be in government

Moderates could easily form a coalition with some of their alliance parties and the SD.
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:53 pm

Borinsa wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:why should citizens not get to vote? whether they're migrants doesn't factor into it, and even if you took out all the migrants it's unlikely that sverigedemokraterna would have a majority. they wouldn't exist without migrants in the first place.

I meant the ones who aren't citizens...

non citizens cannot vote

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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:54 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Exactly when did these Nazis found the SD?

Meet [url=https://sv.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustaf_Ekström]Rottenführer Gustav Ekström[/url], member of SS-Panzer-, and SS-Panzergrenadier-Divisions Wiking and Nordland, the co-founder and board member of the Sweden Democrats in 1988.

Either way the modern SD has since distanced themselves from fascism.
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Borinsa
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Postby Borinsa » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:54 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:sweden's problem is not diversity. sweden's problem was that it brought in too many people at once, which made the infrastructure take a hit. the skin color of the people who were brought in had nothing to do with it; the same would've occurred if the immigrants were norwegian.

Pretty much this. Unchecked immigration is bad as is closing the borders. They are both extremes


Skin color didn't matter, but faith probably made things a little worse...since religion isn't known for it's ability to keep peace.
Population; 4,307,167 Land Area; 28,847.29 sqkm Pop. Density; 149.3 people per sqkm
Capital City; Rosgrava Official Language; Borinsan Currency; Borin
GDP per capita; 8,017.88 USD GDP; 34,534,348,145.96 USD Exchange rate; 1.00 USD = 2.24 Borins
Majority Faith; Catholic (93.7%) Atheism Rate; 5.8% Atheist Majority ethnicity; Borinsan 98.95%
Small southeastern European country, not part of EU or Schengen zone, is however part of NATO.

Borinsa's Liberal Values;
Climate Change is real, Gay Rights, Pro-Vaccination, Secularism, Round Earth
Borinsa's Conservative Values;
Nativism, Anti-Islam/sharia law, Borinsa First, Only two genders, Anti-flouridation, Pro-life, Privilege is scapegoating, right to privacy.

*Borinsa is on the fence on gun rights

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:54 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
They got seats they have a say. just not the majority nor will they be in government

Moderates could easily form a coalition with some of their alliance parties and the SD.

Ahaha nobody except KD wants to lie in the same bed as Åkesson's gang sorry.

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:55 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Meet [url=https://sv.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustaf_Ekström]Rottenführer Gustav Ekström[/url], member of SS-Panzer-, and SS-Panzergrenadier-Divisions Wiking and Nordland, the co-founder and board member of the Sweden Democrats in 1988.

Either way the modern SD has since distanced themselves from fascism.

What they desperately want you to think.

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Borinsa
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Postby Borinsa » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:55 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Meet [url=https://sv.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustaf_Ekström]Rottenführer Gustav Ekström[/url], member of SS-Panzer-, and SS-Panzergrenadier-Divisions Wiking and Nordland, the co-founder and board member of the Sweden Democrats in 1988.

Either way the modern SD has since distanced themselves from fascism.


If they truly are distanced from real facism I hope they win
Population; 4,307,167 Land Area; 28,847.29 sqkm Pop. Density; 149.3 people per sqkm
Capital City; Rosgrava Official Language; Borinsan Currency; Borin
GDP per capita; 8,017.88 USD GDP; 34,534,348,145.96 USD Exchange rate; 1.00 USD = 2.24 Borins
Majority Faith; Catholic (93.7%) Atheism Rate; 5.8% Atheist Majority ethnicity; Borinsan 98.95%
Small southeastern European country, not part of EU or Schengen zone, is however part of NATO.

Borinsa's Liberal Values;
Climate Change is real, Gay Rights, Pro-Vaccination, Secularism, Round Earth
Borinsa's Conservative Values;
Nativism, Anti-Islam/sharia law, Borinsa First, Only two genders, Anti-flouridation, Pro-life, Privilege is scapegoating, right to privacy.

*Borinsa is on the fence on gun rights

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:55 pm

Borinsa wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Either way the modern SD has since distanced themselves from fascism.


If they truly are distanced from real facism I hope they win

Did you miss the part where they ripped off the Nuremberg Laws and called it their party manifesto?

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Borinsa
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Postby Borinsa » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:56 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Either way the modern SD has since distanced themselves from fascism.

What they desperately want you to think.


Hey Austria-Hungary, diversity kept you together really well for a long time didn't it?
There were no separatists movements, or god forbid a Serbian man who killed you prince.
Population; 4,307,167 Land Area; 28,847.29 sqkm Pop. Density; 149.3 people per sqkm
Capital City; Rosgrava Official Language; Borinsan Currency; Borin
GDP per capita; 8,017.88 USD GDP; 34,534,348,145.96 USD Exchange rate; 1.00 USD = 2.24 Borins
Majority Faith; Catholic (93.7%) Atheism Rate; 5.8% Atheist Majority ethnicity; Borinsan 98.95%
Small southeastern European country, not part of EU or Schengen zone, is however part of NATO.

Borinsa's Liberal Values;
Climate Change is real, Gay Rights, Pro-Vaccination, Secularism, Round Earth
Borinsa's Conservative Values;
Nativism, Anti-Islam/sharia law, Borinsa First, Only two genders, Anti-flouridation, Pro-life, Privilege is scapegoating, right to privacy.

*Borinsa is on the fence on gun rights

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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:56 pm

Herskerstad wrote:Well, Karl I Hagen is asking the moderates to talk with SD.

Should that happen, that would be interesting.

That’s very interesting
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:56 pm

Borinsa wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:What they desperately want you to think.


Hey Austria-Hungary, diversity kept you together really well for a long time didn't it?
There were no separatists movements, or god forbid a Serbian man who killed you prince.

NSG is OOC...

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Borinsa
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Postby Borinsa » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:56 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Borinsa wrote:
If they truly are distanced from real facism I hope they win

Did you miss the part where they ripped off the Nuremberg Laws and called it their party manifesto?


Could you show them to us?
Population; 4,307,167 Land Area; 28,847.29 sqkm Pop. Density; 149.3 people per sqkm
Capital City; Rosgrava Official Language; Borinsan Currency; Borin
GDP per capita; 8,017.88 USD GDP; 34,534,348,145.96 USD Exchange rate; 1.00 USD = 2.24 Borins
Majority Faith; Catholic (93.7%) Atheism Rate; 5.8% Atheist Majority ethnicity; Borinsan 98.95%
Small southeastern European country, not part of EU or Schengen zone, is however part of NATO.

Borinsa's Liberal Values;
Climate Change is real, Gay Rights, Pro-Vaccination, Secularism, Round Earth
Borinsa's Conservative Values;
Nativism, Anti-Islam/sharia law, Borinsa First, Only two genders, Anti-flouridation, Pro-life, Privilege is scapegoating, right to privacy.

*Borinsa is on the fence on gun rights

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Chan Island
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Postby Chan Island » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:56 pm

Borinsa wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Either way the modern SD has since distanced themselves from fascism.


If they truly are distanced from real facism I hope they win



The counting isn't completely over, but we can already say with confidence that they didn't. The Social Democrats won, and the Moderate party came in second, though the difference between them and the Sweden Democrats was very small.
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:57 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Borinsa wrote:I meant the ones who aren't citizens...

non citizens cannot vote

In some places they can.
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:58 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Borinsa wrote:
Hey Austria-Hungary, diversity kept you together really well for a long time didn't it?
There were no separatists movements, or god forbid a Serbian man who killed you prince.

NSG is OOC...

I don’t think Borinsa is getting a lot today
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>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
>Xovland: I keep getting ads for printer ink. Sometimes, when you get that feeling down there, you have to look at some steamy printer pictures.
Click for Da Funies

RIP Dya

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:58 pm

Borinsa wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Did you miss the part where they ripped off the Nuremberg Laws and called it their party manifesto?


Could you show them to us?

If you could read Swedish that is...

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Borinsa
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Postby Borinsa » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:58 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Borinsa wrote:
Hey Austria-Hungary, diversity kept you together really well for a long time didn't it?
There were no separatists movements, or god forbid a Serbian man who killed you prince.

NSG is OOC...


Was that the equivalent of "sh-shut up -m-"?
Population; 4,307,167 Land Area; 28,847.29 sqkm Pop. Density; 149.3 people per sqkm
Capital City; Rosgrava Official Language; Borinsan Currency; Borin
GDP per capita; 8,017.88 USD GDP; 34,534,348,145.96 USD Exchange rate; 1.00 USD = 2.24 Borins
Majority Faith; Catholic (93.7%) Atheism Rate; 5.8% Atheist Majority ethnicity; Borinsan 98.95%
Small southeastern European country, not part of EU or Schengen zone, is however part of NATO.

Borinsa's Liberal Values;
Climate Change is real, Gay Rights, Pro-Vaccination, Secularism, Round Earth
Borinsa's Conservative Values;
Nativism, Anti-Islam/sharia law, Borinsa First, Only two genders, Anti-flouridation, Pro-life, Privilege is scapegoating, right to privacy.

*Borinsa is on the fence on gun rights

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Borinsa
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Postby Borinsa » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:58 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Borinsa wrote:
Could you show them to us?

If you could read Swedish that is...

...There is no English version?
Population; 4,307,167 Land Area; 28,847.29 sqkm Pop. Density; 149.3 people per sqkm
Capital City; Rosgrava Official Language; Borinsan Currency; Borin
GDP per capita; 8,017.88 USD GDP; 34,534,348,145.96 USD Exchange rate; 1.00 USD = 2.24 Borins
Majority Faith; Catholic (93.7%) Atheism Rate; 5.8% Atheist Majority ethnicity; Borinsan 98.95%
Small southeastern European country, not part of EU or Schengen zone, is however part of NATO.

Borinsa's Liberal Values;
Climate Change is real, Gay Rights, Pro-Vaccination, Secularism, Round Earth
Borinsa's Conservative Values;
Nativism, Anti-Islam/sharia law, Borinsa First, Only two genders, Anti-flouridation, Pro-life, Privilege is scapegoating, right to privacy.

*Borinsa is on the fence on gun rights

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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:59 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Either way the modern SD has since distanced themselves from fascism.

What they desperately want you to think.

I don’t care. Based off my own politics I’m near that stuff anyway. Hell I’ve been called a red fascist before so whatever
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>Xovland: I keep getting ads for printer ink. Sometimes, when you get that feeling down there, you have to look at some steamy printer pictures.
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:01 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Borinsa wrote:
Could you show them to us?

If you could read Swedish that is...

Outside of a lot of white supremacy and other bullshit I’m not seeing a lot of a rip-off of the Nuremberg laws.
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>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
>Xovland: I keep getting ads for printer ink. Sometimes, when you get that feeling down there, you have to look at some steamy printer pictures.
Click for Da Funies

RIP Dya

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Chan Island
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Postby Chan Island » Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:02 pm

Borinsa wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:What they desperately want you to think.


Hey Austria-Hungary, diversity kept you together really well for a long time didn't it?
There were no separatists movements, or god forbid a Serbian man who killed you prince.


*Casually forgets the part where they were an important power for hundreds of years*

*Casually forgets the part where they broke as a result of one of the most brutal wars of the century. A conflict where whole armies suffered 90% death rates in some campaigns and multiple nations collapsed. And they were broken apart as part of the peace deal.*

*Casually forgets the part where Austria had been antagonised by Serbia for years before they retaliated. After the bloody heir to the throne was murdered.*
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:03 pm

Thermodolia wrote:

Outside of a lot of white supremacy and other bullshit I’m not seeing a lot of a rip-off of the Nuremberg laws.

So to begin with:
"We differentiate between a Swedish citizenship and Swedish nationality... we believe that it is best for Sweden if a majority of the citizens belonged to the Swedish nationality. We realise that some may not be Swedish nationals, but we have no issues with this as long as these *foreign elements* are limited, obeys Swedish laws, traditions and customs and does not create segregation and difficulties"

So from the Reich Citizenship Law:
Article 1
A subject of the state is a person who enjoys the protection of the German Reich and who in consequence has specific obligations toward it.
Article 2
A Reich citizen is a subject of the state who is of German or related blood, and proves by his conduct that he is willing and fit to faithfully serve the German people and Reich.

Den som är svensk medborgare skall inte kunna inneha annat medborgarskap utöver det svenska och endast svenska medborgare skall ha rösträtt i allmänna val.
Swedish Citizens cannot have any other citizenship apart from the Swedish one and only Swedish citizens can be allowed to vote

The Reich citizen is the sole bearer of full political rights in accordance with the law.
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Borinsa
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Postby Borinsa » Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:04 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Borinsa wrote:
Could you show them to us?

If you could read Swedish that is...


I've been using a translator and haven;t found much bad yet could you show me the bad part?
Population; 4,307,167 Land Area; 28,847.29 sqkm Pop. Density; 149.3 people per sqkm
Capital City; Rosgrava Official Language; Borinsan Currency; Borin
GDP per capita; 8,017.88 USD GDP; 34,534,348,145.96 USD Exchange rate; 1.00 USD = 2.24 Borins
Majority Faith; Catholic (93.7%) Atheism Rate; 5.8% Atheist Majority ethnicity; Borinsan 98.95%
Small southeastern European country, not part of EU or Schengen zone, is however part of NATO.

Borinsa's Liberal Values;
Climate Change is real, Gay Rights, Pro-Vaccination, Secularism, Round Earth
Borinsa's Conservative Values;
Nativism, Anti-Islam/sharia law, Borinsa First, Only two genders, Anti-flouridation, Pro-life, Privilege is scapegoating, right to privacy.

*Borinsa is on the fence on gun rights

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:05 pm

can we not thread jack this into a citizenship debate or a diversity one? There is a thread for that

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Borinsa
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Postby Borinsa » Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:05 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Outside of a lot of white supremacy and other bullshit I’m not seeing a lot of a rip-off of the Nuremberg laws.

So to begin with:
"We differentiate between a Swedish citizenship and Swedish nationality... we believe that it is best for Sweden if a majority of the citizens belonged to the Swedish nationality. We realise that some may not be Swedish nationals, but we have no issues with this as long as these *foreign elements* are limited, obeys Swedish laws, traditions and customs and does not create segregation and difficulties"

So from the Reich Citizenship Law:
Article 1
A subject of the state is a person who enjoys the protection of the German Reich and who in consequence has specific obligations toward it.
Article 2
A Reich citizen is a subject of the state who is of German or related blood, and proves by his conduct that he is willing and fit to faithfully serve the German people and Reich.


The Swedish one still seems not as bad as the German one
Population; 4,307,167 Land Area; 28,847.29 sqkm Pop. Density; 149.3 people per sqkm
Capital City; Rosgrava Official Language; Borinsan Currency; Borin
GDP per capita; 8,017.88 USD GDP; 34,534,348,145.96 USD Exchange rate; 1.00 USD = 2.24 Borins
Majority Faith; Catholic (93.7%) Atheism Rate; 5.8% Atheist Majority ethnicity; Borinsan 98.95%
Small southeastern European country, not part of EU or Schengen zone, is however part of NATO.

Borinsa's Liberal Values;
Climate Change is real, Gay Rights, Pro-Vaccination, Secularism, Round Earth
Borinsa's Conservative Values;
Nativism, Anti-Islam/sharia law, Borinsa First, Only two genders, Anti-flouridation, Pro-life, Privilege is scapegoating, right to privacy.

*Borinsa is on the fence on gun rights

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