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Who do you support?

S
33
17%
SD
93
47%
M
8
4%
C
6
3%
V
19
10%
L
15
8%
MP
3
2%
KD
12
6%
Other
9
5%
 
Total votes : 198

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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:14 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Starvation and leftism are forever entwined.

Back to gulag with you, Alexei. 20 years for denouncing Soviet.

Please, I just got out on good behavior! I can't go back!
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The South Falls
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:15 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Back to gulag with you, Alexei. 20 years for denouncing Soviet.

Please, I just got out on good behavior! I can't go back!

The mines have good spot for traitor like you.
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Major-Tom
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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:25 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
Liriena wrote:I'm cautiously optimistic about future left-wing victories. A lot of attention has been paid to the rise of the far right, but in doing so, the slow but visible rise of a new left has been widely ignored or glossed over.

There's a clear hunger for a socialist alternative to both the failing neoliberals and the resurgent ethno-nationalists. What you need is political movements ready to help turn that hunger into action and policies.

Starvation and leftism are forever entwined.


Dunno man, you ever seen Rob Reiner and Michael Moore?

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Frievolk
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Postby Frievolk » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:33 am

Northern Davincia wrote:Starvation and leftism are forever entwined.

I seem to remember a fuckload of famines between 1700 and 1918 (when the first major [supposedly] left-wing government took power), among many other things, that disagree with your claim.
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Postby Painisia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:25 am

It seems like the Swedish election is becoming a World Cup of the most restrictive migrant policies
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Postby Liriena » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:51 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Liriena wrote:I'm cautiously optimistic about future left-wing victories. A lot of attention has been paid to the rise of the far right, but in doing so, the slow but visible rise of a new left has been widely ignored or glossed over.

There's a clear hunger for a socialist alternative to both the failing neoliberals and the resurgent ethno-nationalists. What you need is political movements ready to help turn that hunger into action and policies.

Starvation and leftism are forever entwined.

Food is bourgeois.
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Hammer Britannia
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:54 pm

SD, the only half decent party
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:17 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:SD, the only half decent party

Sorry to hear you like so many other support Draconian polices against immigrants, refugees and non whites and think LGBT people should have no rights

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New Wrepland
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Postby New Wrepland » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:20 pm

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Shrillland
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:30 pm

New Wrepland wrote:


Well, what can I say? I only put it up because it's a major election this year...it's not my fault that we neophytes in such matters mess things up. Even so, immigration is a big issue on how it affects crime rates and the economy in a lot of voters' eyes, which is why it's so contentious. Moreover, this is another milestone on seeing whether or not Europe as a whole will change its course politically and culturally.
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Kubumba Tribe
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:32 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:SD, the only half decent party

Sorry to hear you like so many other support Draconian polices against immigrants, refugees and non whites and think LGBT people should have no rights

HB said "half-decent".
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Frievolk
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Postby Frievolk » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:35 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:SD, the only half decent party

To be fair, I half expected you to support the Centre Party(C) rather than an authoritarian nationalist party.
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:35 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:SD, the only half decent party

Sorry to hear you like so many other support Draconian polices against immigrants, refugees and non whites and think LGBT people should have no rights

Thank you for your insightful exaggerations.
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Frievolk
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Postby Frievolk » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:39 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Sorry to hear you like so many other support Draconian polices against immigrants, refugees and non whites and think LGBT people should have no rights

Thank you for your insightful exaggerations.

To be fair, if you take a look at the wikipedia page about the Swedish democrats (which seems to be the primary source for 'research' here) San Lumen is pretty accurate at painting an image of what The Swedish Democrats are like
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:58 pm

Frievolk wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Thank you for your insightful exaggerations.

To be fair, if you take a look at the wikipedia page about the Swedish democrats (which seems to be the primary source for 'research' here) San Lumen is pretty accurate at painting an image of what The Swedish Democrats are like


I know it's not real research, I just put those up as a general idea. of what the parties stand for.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:24 am

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:57 am

Well, didn't realise that SD were actually polling at 25 %. Could be a very good election indeed.
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Gracia Divina
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Postby Gracia Divina » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:28 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Well, didn't realise that SD were actually polling at 25 %. Could be a very good election indeed.

Not if you are a refugee.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:31 am

Gracia Divina wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Well, didn't realise that SD were actually polling at 25 %. Could be a very good election indeed.

Not if you are a refugee.

Oh well. Sucks for them
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Gracia Divina
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Postby Gracia Divina » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:41 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Gracia Divina wrote:Not if you are a refugee.

Oh well. Sucks for them

And all Christians.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:51 am

Gracia Divina wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Well, didn't realise that SD were actually polling at 25 %. Could be a very good election indeed.

Not if you are a refugee.

I'm not. I don't need to take refuge in Sweden yet as the Scottish civil war isn't happening atm, maybe later though.
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Postby Gracia Divina » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:55 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Gracia Divina wrote:Not if you are a refugee.

I'm not. I don't need to take refuge in Sweden yet as the Scottish civil war isn't happening atm, maybe later though.

I am not a refugee either. This does not mean I have closed my heart to human suffering.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:58 am

Gracia Divina wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I'm not. I don't need to take refuge in Sweden yet as the Scottish civil war isn't happening atm, maybe later though.

I am not a refugee either. This does not mean I have closed my heart to human suffering.

My main wish for this election is instability in the EU resulting to a far stricter immigration policy, or nations leaving. The more disruptive governments their are the more likely this is.
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“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." - Jeff Cooper

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Postby Gracia Divina » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:59 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Gracia Divina wrote:I am not a refugee either. This does not mean I have closed my heart to human suffering.

My main wish for this election is instability in the EU resulting to a far stricter immigration policy, or nations leaving. The more disruptive governments their are the more likely this is.

The EU is an abomination, but I would not pray for discord or harm to others.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:02 am

Gracia Divina wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:My main wish for this election is instability in the EU resulting to a far stricter immigration policy, or nations leaving. The more disruptive governments their are the more likely this is.

The EU is an abomination, but I would not pray for discord or harm to others.

How does discouraging migrants from payingcriminals for long and arduous trips across the med in unsafe boats cause suffering? I'm all for properly funding refugee camps in the safest areas in countries close to the fighting, but the current European policy is just irresponsible.
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“Silent acquiescence in the face of tyranny is no better than outright agreement." - C.J. Redwine
“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." - Jeff Cooper

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