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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:28 am

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Mystic Warriors wrote:China is taking over, deal with it as you can't change it or fight it.


A nuclear first strike could very quickly change it.



Just say you are joking.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:29 am

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The Parkus Empire wrote:We'll deal with it like Spartans and not surrender.



The USA is losing power so you want war with any who oppose it? Like everybody is just supposed to be beneath us and never rise? That is scary and that type of thinking has caused countless problems.

I am not worried about us losing power, I am worried about China gaining it.
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Postby Mecha-Union of Hedionistic Systems » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:29 am

Mystic Warriors wrote:so you want war with any who oppose it? Like everybody is just supposed to be beneath us and never rise? That is scary and that type of thinking has caused countless problems.

it is fun tho
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The USA is losing power so you want war with any who oppose it? Like everybody is just supposed to be beneath us and never rise? That is scary and that type of thinking has caused countless problems.

I am not worried about us losing power, I am worried about China gaining it.



That is not a problem. And keeping nation down with force will cause WW3. Chill.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:30 am

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
A nuclear first strike could very quickly change it.



Just say you are joking.


That's a negative Ghost Rider. We should also restart our weapons production and kick that shit into overdrive, I want an arsenal of 15,000 20 megaton warheads by the end of the year.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:31 am

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A nuclear first strike could very quickly change it.



Just say you are joking.

If it comes to war, a first strike on military targets with nuclear weapons would be the only sane option.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:33 am

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Just say you are joking.

If it comes to war, a first strike on military targets with nuclear weapons would be the only sane option.



Are you guys really so terrified of nations being more powerful than the US you want to attack them? Would you do the same to India and the EU?
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Postby Mecha-Union of Hedionistic Systems » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:33 am

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Are you guys really so terrified of nations being more powerful than the US you want to attack them? Would you do the same to India and the EU?

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:33 am

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The Parkus Empire wrote:If it comes to war, a first strike on military targets with nuclear weapons would be the only sane option.



Are you guys really so terrified of nations being more powerful than the US you want to attack them? Would you do the same to India and the EU?


Not India because they're good boys that like Uncle Sam.

The EU could use a kick in the ass however.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:34 am

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The Parkus Empire wrote:I am not worried about us losing power, I am worried about China gaining it.



That is not a problem. And keeping nation down with force will cause WW3. Chill.

It is a massive problem, China harvests organs from their imprisoned, do you have any idea what kind of people you're dealing with?

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Are you guys really so terrified of nations being more powerful than the US you want to attack them? Would you do the same to India and the EU?


Not India because they're good boys that like Uncle Sam.

The EU could use a kick in the ass however.



Your humor is lacking. And whose alt is that other guy?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:36 am

Mystic Warriors wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:If it comes to war, a first strike on military targets with nuclear weapons would be the only sane option.



Are you guys really so terrified of nations being more powerful than the US you want to attack them? Would you do the same to India and the EU?

Me, personally, no. I hate the EU, but I don't think they want to enslave the world. China I think does
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Postby Bolkenia » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:37 am

China is evil and dangerous ?
As same as the USA. Because yeah, your country is also a really imperialist one trying to expand their influence with everything. Except it worked with the USA.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:37 am

Mystic Warriors wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Not India because they're good boys that like Uncle Sam.

The EU could use a kick in the ass however.



Your humor is lacking. And whose alt is that other guy?


I'm not trying to be humorous, the EU is amazingly useless and a good bombing campaign could probably get the Euro's back on their feet.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:39 am

Money talks, and the more money China has, the more effectively its elites will be able to buy political influence in other countries by buying into key industries and filing the halls of power with its lobbyists. International capitalism and trade opened the doors for British and then America to rise to the top of the world order, and now it will do the same for China. Trump can try to bring about a wave of protectionism, but the jury's out as to whether this will hurt China beyond the short-term rather than result in more countries falling into its orbit. It may at least partially insulate America itself from infiltration and corruption by Chinese interests.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:40 am

Bolkenia wrote:China is evil and dangerous ?
As same as the USA. Because yeah, your country is also a really imperialist one trying to expand their influence with everything. Except it worked with the USA.

I am not saying they are evil and dangerous for being imperialist, but because they are a extreme and nightmarish totalitarian state on top of being imperialist
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:45 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Money talks, and the more money China has, the more effectively its elites will be able to buy political influence in other countries by buying into key industries and filing the halls of power with its lobbyists. International capitalism and trade opened the doors for British and then America to rise to the top of the world order, and now it will do the same for China. Trump can try to bring about a wave of protectionism, but the jury's out as to whether this will hurt China beyond the short-term rather than result in more countries falling into its orbit.

If there gets to be enough European nationalism to break the EU, there is a chance. But otherwise yeah, China will just do more business with the EU to cover the drop in American business. We have to break the stranglehold international finance has on us, or else Western governments are doomed to become the vassals of banks, and banks the vassals of China.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:45 am

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Mystic Warriors wrote:

Are you guys really so terrified of nations being more powerful than the US you want to attack them? Would you do the same to India and the EU?

Me, personally, no. I hate the EU, but I don't think they want to enslave the world. China I think does



I have no issues with the EU and see them as an important tool to curb Russia. China I don't fear, they are unsustainable.
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Postby Mecha-Union of Hedionistic Systems » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:47 am

Mystic Warriors wrote:And whose alt is that other guy?

-United Republic of Freedonia at your service. To be fair i don't trust the Gringos pretty much, knowing what they have done, still better than the Chinese, and changing the US with actual american continent makes the game set for me.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:51 am

Galloism wrote:There seems to be a global battle for world disgust between her and Donald Trump. Can't she just go away and let us all forget that 2016 ever happened, preferably by drowning our sorrows in excessive quantities of liquor?

Seriously, there's got to be SOMEONE else on the Democratic side who can point out the threat of China besides Hillary.

Even when she stays quiet Donnie has to keep talking about her at his masturbation rallies, so what difference does it make to her?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:51 am

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The Parkus Empire wrote:Me, personally, no. I hate the EU, but I don't think they want to enslave the world. China I think does



I have no issues with the EU and see them as an important tool to curb Russia. China I don't fear, they are unsustainable.

They are extremely sustainable.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:00 am

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I have no issues with the EU and see them as an important tool to curb Russia. China I don't fear, they are unsustainable.

They are extremely sustainable.



I disagree. China will collapse under the pressure of its own weight. Cut off food exports and they will starve over time. China is buying land for farms worldwide to feed their nation, and as food demand goes up they won't be able to feed themselves. They even have land in the USA, take the land and starve China.
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The Parkus Empire wrote:They are extremely sustainable.



I disagree. China will collapse under the pressure of its own weight. Cut off food exports and they will starve over time. China is buying land for farms worldwide to feed their nation, and as food demand goes up they won't be able to feed themselves. They even have land in the USA, take the land and starve China.

Demand for food will not outpace agricultural advancement
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:14 am

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I disagree. China will collapse under the pressure of its own weight. Cut off food exports and they will starve over time. China is buying land for farms worldwide to feed their nation, and as food demand goes up they won't be able to feed themselves. They even have land in the USA, take the land and starve China.

Demand for food will not outpace agricultural advancement



Yes it will. Notice you ignore the China own land in the USA comment.
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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:15 am

Too late. Politicians should have done something about China 80 years ago. They could have intervened 30 years ago and had a shot. Today Chinese imperialism is more or less expected to continue for the future.
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