NationStates

Natapoc wrote:Did I not already suggest that it was simply a misunderstanding of your intent based on the way you phrased it? Why are we still arguing about this?

Conserative Morality wrote:

Natapoc wrote:Will you just let go of it already? It was a simple misunderstanding.

Typically, when there is a misunderstanding, one party admits that the misunderstanding occurred before they had been called on it several times.

Natapoc wrote:Why are we still arguing about this?

Natapoc wrote:

Tagmatium wrote:

Natapoc wrote:I understand. I'm simply explaining why I interpreted it that way at the time.

The argument between the pair of you in this thread seems to reflect the OP.

It seems to.

Yootopia wrote:

Natapoc wrote:Why are we still arguing about this?

Because you're both young and arrogant.

Natapoc wrote:Perhaps so. What is your intent in this post?

Natapoc wrote:Oh thank you. So full of love today.

Yootopia wrote:

Natapoc wrote:Why are we still arguing about this?

Because you're both young and arrogant.

Conserative Morality wrote:

Natapoc wrote:Perhaps so. What is your intent in this post?

My intent is to prove that you were trying to avoid admitting that you had went on the defensive and took a statement that was not only a rather mild suggestion, but entirely not an attack and went on the defensive, something that you had previously denied doing.

Conserative Morality wrote:

Natapoc wrote:Oh thank you. So full of love today.

Tough love is the best kind, Natapoc.

Rhodmhire wrote:

Natapoc wrote:Why are we still arguing about this?

Because it's NSG.

Fanaglia wrote:

Natapoc wrote:Does anyone come on to NSG to discuss and learn from others or do most just like to troll?

Do you mainly post to try to "argue/compete" with other posters simply to satiate a desire for conflict/attention?

I find that in real life people are nearly always kind, agreeable, ect and very easy to talk with but on NSG so many posters are exasperating.

Do discussions here have any impact at all or is it just a game to you?

edit: When I say is NSG useless I mean is it useless as a platform for discussion and debate of genuine feelings and ideologies held by posters.

I think it's a pretty good place for debate etc., though it certainly has its share of spammers, flamers, and attention whores. It's a whole lot better than most RL debates, where nine times out of ten, one or both parties get all huffy and resort to personal attacks or even violence. Here, at least, you don't have the violence and, though you do still get the inevitability of inane personal attacks, you get more people just giving up and moving on than you do in real life. I'd like to argue with someone like UAWC or Nobel Hobos IRL just to see how that would go.

Plus, working in public service and being a hard-nosed cynic has made me realize something: 9/10 people do not know how to listen. Ever. If it's in print, you might at least accidentally educate someone, assuming your reader is half-literate.

Natapoc wrote:Not really and why would it matter if I did (not to say I did)?

Also here is where I realized she was not saying what I suspected she was saying:
viewtopic.php?p=1831786#p1831786

Palledonia wrote:

Rhodmhire wrote:

Natapoc wrote:Why are we still arguing about this?

Because it's NSG.

Ahh, my first quote to sig.

Lot's of things on NSG are usless, then again lots of things on the net are.

Rhodmhire wrote:

Palledonia wrote:

Rhodmhire wrote:

Natapoc wrote:Why are we still arguing about this?

Because it's NSG.

Ahh, my first quote to sig.

Lot's of things on NSG are usless, then again lots of things on the net are.

......Let me take a few minutes to contemplate how you might not mean this in the way that I think you do...

Conserative Morality wrote:

Natapoc wrote:Not really and why would it matter if I did (not to say I did)?

Yeah, really, and it matters because hypocrisy and lies are to exposed whenever possible. Even in minor matters, it not only makes for interesting debate, but occasionally leads to a reduction in the occurrence of both (I do not realistically expect anyone, including myself, to entirely stop being liars and hypocrites, and would hope that someone would call me out should I make such a mistake).

Also here is where I realized she was not saying what I suspected she was saying:
viewtopic.php?p=1831786#p1831786

You fail to directly admit as much.

Natapoc wrote:

Fanaglia wrote:

Natapoc wrote:Does anyone come on to NSG to discuss and learn from others or do most just like to troll?

Do you mainly post to try to "argue/compete" with other posters simply to satiate a desire for conflict/attention?

I find that in real life people are nearly always kind, agreeable, ect and very easy to talk with but on NSG so many posters are exasperating.

Do discussions here have any impact at all or is it just a game to you?

edit: When I say is NSG useless I mean is it useless as a platform for discussion and debate of genuine feelings and ideologies held by posters.

I think it's a pretty good place for debate etc., though it certainly has its share of spammers, flamers, and attention whores. It's a whole lot better than most RL debates, where nine times out of ten, one or both parties get all huffy and resort to personal attacks or even violence. Here, at least, you don't have the violence and, though you do still get the inevitability of inane personal attacks, you get more people just giving up and moving on than you do in real life. I'd like to argue with someone like UAWC or Nobel Hobos IRL just to see how that would go.

Plus, working in public service and being a hard-nosed cynic has made me realize something: 9/10 people do not know how to listen. Ever. If it's in print, you might at least accidentally educate someone, assuming your reader is half-literate.

I suspect that in real life you would find yourself agreeing more with them (and they with you) after you realize that most of your disagreements are artificial.

Jocabia wrote:

Fanaglia wrote:

Natapoc wrote:Does anyone come on to NSG to discuss and learn from others or do most just like to troll?

Do you mainly post to try to "argue/compete" with other posters simply to satiate a desire for conflict/attention?

I find that in real life people are nearly always kind, agreeable, ect and very easy to talk with but on NSG so many posters are exasperating.

Do discussions here have any impact at all or is it just a game to you?

edit: When I say is NSG useless I mean is it useless as a platform for discussion and debate of genuine feelings and ideologies held by posters.

I think it's a pretty good place for debate etc., though it certainly has its share of spammers, flamers, and attention whores. It's a whole lot better than most RL debates, where nine times out of ten, one or both parties get all huffy and resort to personal attacks or even violence. Here, at least, you don't have the violence and, though you do still get the inevitability of inane personal attacks, you get more people just giving up and moving on than you do in real life. I'd like to argue with someone like UAWC or Nobel Hobos IRL just to see how that would go.

Plus, working in public service and being a hard-nosed cynic has made me realize something: 9/10 people do not know how to listen. Ever. If it's in print, you might at least accidentally educate someone, assuming your reader is half-literate.

I've argued with Aerou, Deus Malus, Kiryu, Hammurab, Ilie, The Chocolate Goddess, and a number of other face to face or on the phone and I'd have to say it really wasn't that different. I know that my personality carries better via my voice and that helps people know when I'm joking and takes the edge off of most of my comments, but more or less it's the same otherwise.

Natapoc wrote:

Conserative Morality wrote:

Natapoc wrote:Not really and why would it matter if I did (not to say I did)?

Yeah, really, and it matters because hypocrisy and lies are to exposed whenever possible. Even in minor matters, it not only makes for interesting debate, but occasionally leads to a reduction in the occurrence of both (I do not realistically expect anyone, including myself, to entirely stop being liars and hypocrites, and would hope that someone would call me out should I make such a mistake).

Also here is where I realized she was not saying what I suspected she was saying:
viewtopic.php?p=1831786#p1831786

You fail to directly admit as much.

And how do you expect that I would know what another poster intended to say before I fully realized what the other poster intended to say?

Directly admit? You act as though misunderstanding someone is some sort of crime.

SaintB wrote:This thread devolved into useless-ness....

SaintB wrote:This thread devolved into useless....

Natapoc wrote:And how do you expect that I would know what another poster intended to say before I fully realized what the other poster intended to say?

Directly admit? You act as though misunderstanding someone is some sort of crime.

Fanaglia wrote:

Natapoc wrote:

Fanaglia wrote:

Natapoc wrote:Does anyone come on to NSG to discuss and learn from others or do most just like to troll?

Do you mainly post to try to "argue/compete" with other posters simply to satiate a desire for conflict/attention?

I find that in real life people are nearly always kind, agreeable, ect and very easy to talk with but on NSG so many posters are exasperating.

Do discussions here have any impact at all or is it just a game to you?

edit: When I say is NSG useless I mean is it useless as a platform for discussion and debate of genuine feelings and ideologies held by posters.

I think it's a pretty good place for debate etc., though it certainly has its share of spammers, flamers, and attention whores. It's a whole lot better than most RL debates, where nine times out of ten, one or both parties get all huffy and resort to personal attacks or even violence. Here, at least, you don't have the violence and, though you do still get the inevitability of inane personal attacks, you get more people just giving up and moving on than you do in real life. I'd like to argue with someone like UAWC or Nobel Hobos IRL just to see how that would go.

Plus, working in public service and being a hard-nosed cynic has made me realize something: 9/10 people do not know how to listen. Ever. If it's in print, you might at least accidentally educate someone, assuming your reader is half-literate.

I suspect that in real life you would find yourself agreeing more with them (and they with you) after you realize that most of your disagreements are artificial.

Wait, what? Evidence.

I'm not saying that I disagree with you; on the internet, everyone is an extremist. I'm sure we would probably get along with our (probably) toned down RL assertions, but what I'm lost on is your comment about disagreements being artificial. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding you.