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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:49 pm

Natapoc wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:
Natapoc wrote:And how do you expect that I would know what another poster intended to say before I fully realized what the other poster intended to say?

By calling upon your knowledge of the English language? Honestly, what kind of a question is that, you read something, and based on previous knowledge of definitions and word usage, you come to a conclusion. You seemed to have completely ignored the fact that it wasn't even an argument, and went on the defensive, taking the statement as a personal attack, thus proving NERVUN's earlier statement.
Directly admit? You act as though misunderstanding someone is some sort of crime.

No, but continuing to deny your own actions and refusing to admit that it was a misunderstanding after some time is quite... How to put this... Disreputable, is the closest I can get, I'm certain there's a more accurate word in the English language for the meaning I'm looking for.


See this is exactly what I mean by useless. You are making a huge issue out of nothing at all in a pathetic attempt to make someone care. You are attempting to "rub in" a simply misunderstanding. Language is relative and my interpretation was one of many possible fully legal ones.

Continuing to deny my own actions? You speak to me as if I'm doing something horribly wrong and continuing to do so.

However pathetic you may claim CM's actions to be, you dignified them with a response. For one so opposed to argument for its own sake, you seem rather inclined towards furthering arguments you seem to see as of that kind.


I'm unsure if defending myself from baseless allegations is worthwhile or not worthwhile. What do you think?

As I've said, the only worth I place on NSG is how it can entertain me. Debating those who disagree with me does this, as does idle chatter with my friends. But as you seem opposed to conflict for its own sake, it can't but think it odd that you persist with NnT et al over very little.

As an aside, I have been reading "Pride And Prejudice And Zombies" recently. And drinking. These things may impact my use of the English language.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:49 pm

Natapoc wrote:This is clearly important to you. Carry on.

This was clearly important to you. You carried on for several pages.
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Postby Natapoc » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:50 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Yootopia wrote:
Natapoc wrote:Why are we still arguing about this?

Because you're both young and arrogant.

I have to say, that little exchange might explains o much about this board...


Indeed. Which is why I allowed it to continue so long.
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Postby Rhodmhire » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:50 pm

Satyrstone wrote:Why don't we all, LET THIS GO!?


Because it's NSG.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:50 pm

Natapoc wrote:Jocabia I have you on ignore because you seem to have intentionally and repeatedly misrepresented my views in another thread. You are one of two people on my ignore list I'm not inclined to look at your posts

Putting people on your ignore list is no more than an attempt to shut out unenjoyable opinions.
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Postby Jocabia » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:51 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Let me offer an example of my own errors. Jocabia called me out on something I said on another thread. I realized I had insulted someone else gravely, someone I consider a good friend here. You know what I did? I apologized to that person. Do you want me to link you to that?

And as you can see here and in other threads, neither of us consider it personal. If you want arguments and debate to go somewhere then you have to be willing to fully explore it. If you find most people give up on their passions before you get to the bottom of things, then it's probably because they don't think you're worth explaining it to. Personally, I wouldn't find that to be the better outcome.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:51 pm

Natapoc wrote:Indeed. Which is why I allowed it to continue so long.


Oooh. Work that ego. Yeah. Go for the burn baby.

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Postby Palledonia » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:51 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Satyrstone wrote:Why don't we all, LET THIS GO!?

I find it entertaining to argue with people, on issues both large and small. While this is a small issue, it has allowed for interesting and entertaining arguments.

I just do it for the entertaining part.

Makes me feel better about myself. ;)
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Natapoc wrote:Why are we still arguing about this?


Because it's NSG.

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Postby Hamilay » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:51 pm

Yes. Yes it is.

I shall prove the point by making this useless post.

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Postby Natapoc » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:51 pm

Ifreann wrote:As I've said, the only worth I place on NSG is how it can entertain me. Debating those who disagree with me does this, as does idle chatter with my friends. But as you seem opposed to conflict for its own sake, it can't but think it odd that you persist with NnT et al over very little.

As an aside, I have been reading "Pride And Prejudice And Zombies" recently. And drinking. These things may impact my use of the English language.


My intent in allowing that thread of conversation to continue was to determine if my suspicions were correct. They were confirmed.
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Postby Rhodmhire » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:52 pm

Hamilay wrote:Yes. Yes it is.

I shall prove the point by making this useless post.


And I shall ruin your attempt, by saying that I believe it's not useless.

..Ah shit, I just posted a useless post to make yours not useless.

It's the never ending circle...
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:53 pm

Jocabia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Let me offer an example of my own errors. Jocabia called me out on something I said on another thread. I realized I had insulted someone else gravely, someone I consider a good friend here. You know what I did? I apologized to that person. Do you want me to link you to that?

And as you can see here and in other threads, neither of us consider it personal. If you want arguments and debate to go somewhere then you have to be willing to fully explore it. If you find most people give up on their passions before you get to the bottom of things, then it's probably because they don't think you're worth explaining it to. Personally, I wouldn't find that to be the better outcome.


No, that is true, I didn't see this as a personal attack on your part. Did I disagree with you? Yes, it is normal to disagree. You and don't or won't always think alike on a given subject. But if I made a mistake, I have no qualms in accepting that I did.
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Postby Natapoc » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:53 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Natapoc wrote:Jocabia I have you on ignore because you seem to have intentionally and repeatedly misrepresented my views in another thread. You are one of two people on my ignore list I'm not inclined to look at your posts

Putting people on your ignore list is no more than an attempt to shut out unenjoyable opinions.


The reason to put someone on ignore is if you find their arguments to be uninteresting or find their posts to lack usefulness for some other reason.
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Postby Jocabia » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:54 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Natapoc wrote:Jocabia I have you on ignore because you seem to have intentionally and repeatedly misrepresented my views in another thread. You are one of two people on my ignore list I'm not inclined to look at your posts

Putting people on your ignore list is no more than an attempt to shut out unenjoyable opinions.

Amusingly, he was progressively getting more personal in his attacks right up to the point where he put me on ignore. According to him at the time, I should focus on the post and not the poster. The irony did not go amiss.
Sgt Toomey wrote:Come to think of it, it would make more sense to hate him for being black. At least its half true..
JJ Place wrote:Sure, the statistics are that a gun is more likely to harm a family member than a criminal

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Postby Hamilay » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:57 pm

Natapoc wrote:The reason to put someone on ignore is if you find their arguments to be uninteresting


o lol

I need to start filling out my ignore list.

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Postby Natapoc » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:58 pm

Hamilay wrote:
Natapoc wrote:The reason to put someone on ignore is if you find their arguments to be uninteresting


o lol

I need to start filling out my ignore list.


I only have 2 people on mine currently and I have a tendency to remove people from the list after a short time.
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Postby Jocabia » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:58 pm

Natapoc wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:
Natapoc wrote:Jocabia I have you on ignore because you seem to have intentionally and repeatedly misrepresented my views in another thread. You are one of two people on my ignore list I'm not inclined to look at your posts

Putting people on your ignore list is no more than an attempt to shut out unenjoyable opinions.


The reason to put someone on ignore is if you find their arguments to be uninteresting or find their posts to lack usefulness for some other reason.

I'm not interested in whether you enjoy my posts. I'm interested in demonstrating what is incorrect about the things you say. I'm interested in doing so because I want NSG to be useful to the people reading. I want them to learn. So when I see someone wholesale making something up, I call them out on it. I can, however, see how you'd prefer that I didn't.
Sgt Toomey wrote:Come to think of it, it would make more sense to hate him for being black. At least its half true..
JJ Place wrote:Sure, the statistics are that a gun is more likely to harm a family member than a criminal

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Postby Sdaeriji » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:59 pm

Natapoc wrote:Jocabia I have you on ignore because you seem to have intentionally and repeatedly misrepresented my views in another thread. You are one of two people on my ignore list I'm not inclined to look at your posts


lolololol

This thread needs to be archived.
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Postby Satyrstone » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:59 pm

Rhodmhire wrote:
Satyrstone wrote:Why don't we all, LET THIS GO!?


Because it's NSG.


Mhm, great reason.
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Postby Palledonia » Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:00 pm

Sdaeriji wrote:
Natapoc wrote:Jocabia I have you on ignore because you seem to have intentionally and repeatedly misrepresented my views in another thread. You are one of two people on my ignore list I'm not inclined to look at your posts


lolololol

This thread needs to be archived.

Now it will never be archived...

*shakes head*
Rhodmhire wrote:
Natapoc wrote:Why are we still arguing about this?


Because it's NSG.

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Postby Jocabia » Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:00 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Satyrstone wrote:Why don't we all, LET THIS GO!?

I find it entertaining to argue with people, on issues both large and small. While this is a small issue, it has allowed for interesting and entertaining arguments.

I agree. I find the arguments entertaining and often educational. I have often been in the position of fighting off the hordes so to speak and while it's often difficult to wade through, it can be bother entertaining and educational. I find it interesting, though, that most often when I see people complaining like the OP it's people who have repeatedly been totally and utterly shown to speak way over their own heads. I find very few exceptions.
Sgt Toomey wrote:Come to think of it, it would make more sense to hate him for being black. At least its half true..
JJ Place wrote:Sure, the statistics are that a gun is more likely to harm a family member than a criminal

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Postby Non Aligned States » Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:01 pm

NERVUN wrote:The Interwebtubes are serious buisness after all.

And I think that, after this long on the web, you haven't figured out that people are nice, kind, and gentle IRL because they are face to face with you but are not on the web, there's very little hope for you.


There's also the fact that you can pick and chose who you associate with in real life, and people tend to avoid those they disagree with. No such luck on a message board.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:02 pm

Natapoc wrote:The reason to put someone on ignore is if you find their arguments to be uninteresting or find their posts to lack usefulness for some other reason.

Not at all. If you find their posts uninteresting, there is no need to blot them out entirely.
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Postby Blob-land » Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:02 pm

Muahaha! Another useless attempt from natapoc to change NS! Not really, good question. I can't tell really, it's full of trolls, but yet full of great topics.
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Postby Satyrstone » Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:02 pm

Jocabia wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:
Satyrstone wrote:Why don't we all, LET THIS GO!?

I find it entertaining to argue with people, on issues both large and small. While this is a small issue, it has allowed for interesting and entertaining arguments.

I agree. I find the arguments entertaining and often educational. I have often been in the position of fighting off the hordes so to speak and while it's often difficult to wade through, it can be bother entertaining and educational. I find it interesting, though, that most often when I see people complaining like the OP it's people who have repeatedly been totally and utterly shown to speak way over their own heads. I find very few exceptions.


It's funny how that happens.
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