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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:40 pm

Palledonia wrote:Nah, I think it's big e-

Is it me or are our posts messing up?


No, they are messing up and I don't know why.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:41 pm

Rhodmhire wrote:Is it the fact that I don't have my glasses on, or did someone break the thread?


It is broken! Did I break it? Whaaaaaa!!! :eek:
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Postby Natapoc » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:41 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Natapoc wrote:What I mean is that in real life arguments over political issues tend to vanish (at least for me) to instead be replaced by talking about life experiences, things people enjoy, which place to go to to eat, ect. I've found that in real life after a short time I can agree with most people on most things.

You really aren't surrounded by a bunch of assertive people, I assume?


By assertive what do you mean? People with poor social skills who are unable to communicate without using anger? I have actually met a couple people like that. In both cases the individuals were mentally ill and in one case it was a homeless man who felt that all the black people were out to get him.

No sorry I've found most people in real life to be extremely reasonable even when I totally disagree with them.
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Postby Yootopia » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:42 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Palledonia wrote:Nah, I think it's big e-

Is it me or are our posts messing up?


No, they are messing up and I don't know why.

I think my Wordsworth reference may have caused a rift in the quaint-time continuum.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:42 pm

Natapoc wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:
Natapoc wrote:And how do you expect that I would know what another poster intended to say before I fully realized what the other poster intended to say?

By calling upon your knowledge of the English language? Honestly, what kind of a question is that, you read something, and based on previous knowledge of definitions and word usage, you come to a conclusion. You seemed to have completely ignored the fact that it wasn't even an argument, and went on the defensive, taking the statement as a personal attack, thus proving NERVUN's earlier statement.
Directly admit? You act as though misunderstanding someone is some sort of crime.

No, but continuing to deny your own actions and refusing to admit that it was a misunderstanding after some time is quite... How to put this... Disreputable, is the closest I can get, I'm certain there's a more accurate word in the English language for the meaning I'm looking for.


See this is exactly what I mean by useless. You are making a huge issue out of nothing at all in a pathetic attempt to make someone care. You are attempting to "rub in" a simply misunderstanding. Language is relative and my interpretation was one of many possible fully legal ones.

Continuing to deny my own actions? You speak to me as if I'm doing something horribly wrong and continuing to do so.

However pathetic you may claim CM's actions to be, you dignified them with a response. For one so opposed to argument for its own sake, you seem rather inclined towards furthering arguments you seem to see as of that kind.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:42 pm

Natapoc wrote:See this is exactly what I mean by useless. You are making a huge issue out of nothing at all in a pathetic attempt to make someone care.

Incorrect, you assume motives that are not there. Furthermore, weren't you the one who claimed to care about those you had not met and their opinions? You have no room to call my motives pathetic, even if they were what you claimed they are.
You are attempting to "rub in" a simply misunderstanding.

Incorrect, I am attempting to elicit a response that at least admits that it was your fault in assuming a statement of superiority in a suggestion that had nothing even close, nothing even vaguely related to such a concept.
Language is relative and my interpretation was one of many possible fully legal ones.

Language is only partially relative, otherwise the concept of language as a unified system for transferring information is... Useless.
Continuing to deny my own actions? You speak to me as if I'm doing something horribly wrong and continuing to do so.

Disingenuous was the word I was looking for, thanks to Fartsniffage, you are doing something disingenuous and continue to do so.
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Postby JuNii » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:42 pm

Natapoc wrote:Does anyone come on to NSG to discuss and learn from others or do most just like to troll?

Do you mainly post to try to "argue/compete" with other posters simply to satiate a desire for conflict/attention?

I find that in real life people are nearly always kind, agreeable, ect and very easy to talk with but on NSG so many posters are exasperating.

Do discussions here have any impact at all or is it just a game to you?

edit: When I say is NSG useless I mean is it useless as a platform for discussion and debate of genuine feelings and ideologies held by posters.


I ask questions for the sake of gathering information. sometimes, my questions are misinterpreted as arguments... but I don't mind really.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:43 pm

Yootopia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Palledonia wrote:Nah, I think it's big e-

Is it me or are our posts messing up?


No, they are messing up and I don't know why.

I think my Wordsworth reference may have caused a rift in the quaint-time continuum.


Thread-killer.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:43 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Yootopia wrote:
Natapoc wrote:What I mean is that in real life arguments over political issues tend to vanish (at least for me) to instead be replaced by talking about life experiences, things people enjoy, which place to go to to eat, ect. I've found that in real life after a short time I can agree with most people on most things.

Eugh. Do you not get bored of talking to people as if life was just one long Wordsworth poem?

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Postby Natapoc » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:44 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:
Natapoc wrote:And how do you expect that I would know what another poster intended to say before I fully realized what the other poster intended to say?

By calling upon your knowledge of the English language? Honestly, what kind of a question is that, you read something, and based on previous knowledge of definitions and word usage, you come to a conclusion. You seemed to have completely ignored the fact that it wasn't even an argument, and went on the defensive, taking the statement as a personal attack, thus proving NERVUN's earlier statement.
Directly admit? You act as though misunderstanding someone is some sort of crime.

No, but continuing to deny your own actions and refusing to admit that it was a misunderstanding after some time is quite... How to put this... Disreputable, is the closest I can get, I'm certain there's a more accurate word in the English language for the meaning I'm looking for.


See this is exactly what I mean by useless. You are making a huge issue out of nothing at all in a pathetic attempt to make someone care. You are attempting to "rub in" a simply misunderstanding. Language is relative and my interpretation was one of many possible fully legal ones.

Continuing to deny my own actions? You speak to me as if I'm doing something horribly wrong and continuing to do so.

However pathetic you may claim CM's actions to be, you dignified them with a response. For one so opposed to argument for its own sake, you seem rather inclined towards furthering arguments you seem to see as of that kind.


I'm unsure if defending myself from baseless allegations is worthwhile or not worthwhile. What do you think?
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Postby Satyrstone » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:44 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Natapoc wrote:Not really and why would it matter if I did (not to say I did)?

Yeah, really, and it matters because hypocrisy and lies are to exposed whenever possible. Even in minor matters, it not only makes for interesting debate, but occasionally leads to a reduction in the occurrence of both (I do not realistically expect anyone, including myself, to entirely stop being liars and hypocrites, and would hope that someone would call me out should I make such a mistake).
Also here is where I realized she was not saying what I suspected she was saying:
viewtopic.php?p=1831786#p1831786

You fail to directly admit as much.


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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:45 pm

Natapoc wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:
Natapoc wrote:And how do you expect that I would know what another poster intended to say before I fully realized what the other poster intended to say?

By calling upon your knowledge of the English language? Honestly, what kind of a question is that, you read something, and based on previous knowledge of definitions and word usage, you come to a conclusion. You seemed to have completely ignored the fact that it wasn't even an argument, and went on the defensive, taking the statement as a personal attack, thus proving NERVUN's earlier statement.
Directly admit? You act as though misunderstanding someone is some sort of crime.

No, but continuing to deny your own actions and refusing to admit that it was a misunderstanding after some time is quite... How to put this... Disreputable, is the closest I can get, I'm certain there's a more accurate word in the English language for the meaning I'm looking for.


See this is exactly what I mean by useless. You are making a huge issue out of nothing at all in a pathetic attempt to make someone care. You are attempting to "rub in" a simply misunderstanding. Language is relative and my interpretation was one of many possible fully legal ones.

Continuing to deny my own actions? You speak to me as if I'm doing something horribly wrong and continuing to do so.

However pathetic you may claim CM's actions to be, you dignified them with a response. For one so opposed to argument for its own sake, you seem rather inclined towards furthering arguments you seem to see as of that kind.


I'm unsure if defending myself from baseless allegations is worthwhile or not worthwhile. What do you think?


This is where you err. This is why you err. You immediately assume that CM's allegations are baseless.
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Postby Jocabia » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:45 pm

Natapoc wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:
Natapoc wrote:What I mean is that in real life arguments over political issues tend to vanish (at least for me) to instead be replaced by talking about life experiences, things people enjoy, which place to go to to eat, ect. I've found that in real life after a short time I can agree with most people on most things.

You really aren't surrounded by a bunch of assertive people, I assume?


By assertive what do you mean? People with poor social skills who are unable to communicate without using anger? I have actually met a couple people like that. In both cases the individuals were mentally ill and in one case it was a homeless man who felt that all the black people were out to get him.

No sorry I've found most people in real life to be extremely reasonable even when I totally disagree with them.

Once again, the irony.

You do realize that you've repeatedly insulted the members of NSG while taking absolutely no blame of your own.

Most people aren't attacking you just because they're dismantling your claims. It's not personal. I seems you're used to people ignoring that some of what you say isn't supported by fact, but that's not going to happen here. And not only is going to be pointed out, but if you try to weasel out of admitting it's not founded, then you'll get a increasing aggressive replies to demonstrate the problem. That's what happens when people actually care about getting down to the truth.

The question really is are you willing to go through what Bottle went through, what GnI went through, what Melkor went through to really find out what your opinion will be when you have as much information as you or anyone else can find?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:45 pm

Ifreann wrote:Alas, mine eyes are blinded now, and I shall never see
A poem so lovely as a tree.


How exquisitely the individual Mind
(And the progressive powers perhaps no less
Of the whole species) to the external World
Is fitted:--and how exquisitely, too,
Theme this but little heard of among Men,
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Postby Natapoc » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:46 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:
Natapoc wrote:And how do you expect that I would know what another poster intended to say before I fully realized what the other poster intended to say?

By calling upon your knowledge of the English language? Honestly, what kind of a question is that, you read something, and based on previous knowledge of definitions and word usage, you come to a conclusion. You seemed to have completely ignored the fact that it wasn't even an argument, and went on the defensive, taking the statement as a personal attack, thus proving NERVUN's earlier statement.
Directly admit? You act as though misunderstanding someone is some sort of crime.

No, but continuing to deny your own actions and refusing to admit that it was a misunderstanding after some time is quite... How to put this... Disreputable, is the closest I can get, I'm certain there's a more accurate word in the English language for the meaning I'm looking for.


See this is exactly what I mean by useless. You are making a huge issue out of nothing at all in a pathetic attempt to make someone care. You are attempting to "rub in" a simply misunderstanding. Language is relative and my interpretation was one of many possible fully legal ones.

Continuing to deny my own actions? You speak to me as if I'm doing something horribly wrong and continuing to do so.

However pathetic you may claim CM's actions to be, you dignified them with a response. For one so opposed to argument for its own sake, you seem rather inclined towards furthering arguments you seem to see as of that kind.


I'm unsure if defending myself from baseless allegations is worthwhile or not worthwhile. What do you think?


This is where you err. This is why you err. You immediately assume that CM's allegations are baseless.


This is clearly important to you. Carry on.
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Postby Tunizcha » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:46 pm

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Postby Satyrstone » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:47 pm

This THREAD has become useless.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:47 pm

Natapoc wrote:By assertive what do you mean? People with poor social skills who are unable to communicate without using anger?

No, and I have very little idea why you would come to such a conclusion. Aggressiveness is far removed from assertiveness. The Agressive refuse to respect personal boundaries, and the passive refuse to defend their own. The assertive do neither, they speak their mind, but respect personal boundaries, they don't shy away from conflict due to a fear of conflict, although they may shy away from conflict if it goes too far. They don't refuse to debate, instead changing to 'What's your favorite food?' in all of their conversations.
I have actually met a couple people like that. In both cases the individuals were mentally ill and in one case it was a homeless man who felt that all the black people were out to get him.

As a assertive, and yes, admittedly, sometimes somewhat aggressive, person, I can assure you that I am not seriously mentally ill, nor am I homeless or particularly paranoid, especially not in racist ways.
No sorry I've found most people in real life to be extremely reasonable even when I totally disagree with them.

Someone who is assertive can very well be reasonable, in fact, it is very easy to be a reasonable assertive person.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:47 pm

Tunizcha wrote:NSG is like the 4chan of the non-Red Light District internet.


Can't be. Meme are banned.

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Postby Palledonia » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:48 pm

Satyrstone wrote:This THREAD has become useless.

Beaten by the punch a page ago...

We all know it though so no point reminding us.
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Natapoc wrote:Why are we still arguing about this?


Because it's NSG.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:48 pm

Natapoc wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:
Natapoc wrote:And how do you expect that I would know what another poster intended to say before I fully realized what the other poster intended to say?

By calling upon your knowledge of the English language? Honestly, what kind of a question is that, you read something, and based on previous knowledge of definitions and word usage, you come to a conclusion. You seemed to have completely ignored the fact that it wasn't even an argument, and went on the defensive, taking the statement as a personal attack, thus proving NERVUN's earlier statement.
Directly admit? You act as though misunderstanding someone is some sort of crime.

No, but continuing to deny your own actions and refusing to admit that it was a misunderstanding after some time is quite... How to put this... Disreputable, is the closest I can get, I'm certain there's a more accurate word in the English language for the meaning I'm looking for.


See this is exactly what I mean by useless. You are making a huge issue out of nothing at all in a pathetic attempt to make someone care. You are attempting to "rub in" a simply misunderstanding. Language is relative and my interpretation was one of many possible fully legal ones.

Continuing to deny my own actions? You speak to me as if I'm doing something horribly wrong and continuing to do so.

However pathetic you may claim CM's actions to be, you dignified them with a response. For one so opposed to argument for its own sake, you seem rather inclined towards furthering arguments you seem to see as of that kind.


I'm unsure if defending myself from baseless allegations is worthwhile or not worthwhile. What do you think?


This is where you err. This is why you err. You immediately assume that CM's allegations are baseless.


This is clearly important to you. Carry on.


Let me offer an example of my own errors. Jocabia called me out on something I said on another thread. I realized I had insulted someone else gravely, someone I consider a good friend here. You know what I did? I apologized to that person. Do you want me to link you to that?
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:48 pm

Yootopia wrote:
Natapoc wrote:Why are we still arguing about this?

Because you're both young and arrogant.

I have to say, that little exchange might explains o much about this board...
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Postby Jocabia » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:48 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:
Natapoc wrote:And how do you expect that I would know what another poster intended to say before I fully realized what the other poster intended to say?

By calling upon your knowledge of the English language? Honestly, what kind of a question is that, you read something, and based on previous knowledge of definitions and word usage, you come to a conclusion. You seemed to have completely ignored the fact that it wasn't even an argument, and went on the defensive, taking the statement as a personal attack, thus proving NERVUN's earlier statement.
Directly admit? You act as though misunderstanding someone is some sort of crime.

No, but continuing to deny your own actions and refusing to admit that it was a misunderstanding after some time is quite... How to put this... Disreputable, is the closest I can get, I'm certain there's a more accurate word in the English language for the meaning I'm looking for.


See this is exactly what I mean by useless. You are making a huge issue out of nothing at all in a pathetic attempt to make someone care. You are attempting to "rub in" a simply misunderstanding. Language is relative and my interpretation was one of many possible fully legal ones.

Continuing to deny my own actions? You speak to me as if I'm doing something horribly wrong and continuing to do so.

However pathetic you may claim CM's actions to be, you dignified them with a response. For one so opposed to argument for its own sake, you seem rather inclined towards furthering arguments you seem to see as of that kind.

He engages a lot in such things.

He hates when arguments are pointless while he argues about something he claims is pointless.

He hates it when people make personal attacks while he calls them crazy or ignorant or both, without actually addressing their arguments.

What is quite consistant is that the standard for behavior does not apply to our friend.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:49 pm

Satyrstone wrote:Why don't we all, LET THIS GO!?

I find it entertaining to argue with people, on issues both large and small. While this is a small issue, it has allowed for interesting and entertaining arguments.
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Postby Natapoc » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:49 pm

Jocabia I have you on ignore because you seem to have intentionally and repeatedly misrepresented my views in another thread. You are one of two people on my ignore list I'm not inclined to look at your posts
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