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Shrillland wrote:

The South Falls wrote:The main problem is exactly that. The EU doesn't kick out those nations that are non-functioning democracies, who subjugate their people under their ends.

Sadly, the EU isn't the superstate we've all hoped for and won't be able to do the things it needs to do to survive. Which is extremely sad because, before the UK's secession, I honestly thought that the unified EU would become the greatest superpower the world had ever seen by 2050.

The Parkus Empire wrote:

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:When has that happened in the US?

It's called "living document"

Canadensia wrote:

Risottia wrote:
And that's exactly why the EU should do its best to piss of the V4 countries so they will leave. Fuck the Visegrad fascist governments.

Mate, with all due respect, could you possibly be any more of a living, breathing stereotype of armchair Socialism?

Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Slovakia are no more fascist than Sweden is a Communist paradise. The ruling party of Poland in particular isn't even far-right. It's just socially conservative and nationalistic. Hell, it doesn't even advocate hard euroscepticism.

Risottia wrote:

Shrillland wrote:Basically, 27 of the 72 justices(including the 1st president of the court) in Poland's Supreme Court have been fired by the PiS government, ostensibly because they're over 65, but in reality because they're opposed to the consolidation of power in the increasingly authoritarian state. Poland is also establishing a judicial disciplinary chamber to punish judges for "misconduct". 1st President of the Court Malgorzata Gersdorf showed up to work today, ready to force a showdown. The EU is considering imposing Article 7 of the Maastricht Treaty....but that requires a unanimous vote, which the rest of the Visegrad Group won't let happen.

And that's exactly why the EU should do its best to piss of the V4 countries so they will leave. Fuck the Visegrad fascist governments.

Sicaris wrote:

Canadensia wrote:
Mate, with all due respect, could you possibly be any more of a living, breathing stereotype of armchair Socialism?

Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Slovakia are no more fascist than Sweden is a Communist paradise. The ruling party of Poland in particular isn't even far-right. It's just socially conservative and nationalistic. Hell, it doesn't even advocate hard euroscepticism.

EXACTLY!

Chan Island wrote:It's very sad that so many countries are going down this authoritarian, hard-right route. The next couple of decades are going to have to see a lot of hard work undoing the damage humanity is doing to itself in this one.

Chan Island wrote:It's very sad that so many countries are going down this authoritarian, hard-right route. The next couple of decades are going to have to see a lot of hard work undoing the damage humanity is doing to itself in this one.

The South Falls wrote:

Chan Island wrote:It's very sad that so many countries are going down this authoritarian, hard-right route. The next couple of decades are going to have to see a lot of hard work undoing the damage humanity is doing to itself in this one.

Who says they'll even leave before the next decade? This trend has been happening for a long time, and it doesn't look like people are tired of it. I wish they were.

Petrolheadia wrote:

Chan Island wrote:It's very sad that so many countries are going down this authoritarian, hard-right route. The next couple of decades are going to have to see a lot of hard work undoing the damage humanity is doing to itself in this one.

If that's authoritarianism, then a 30-year-old beater diesel Mercedes is a limousine.

Risottia wrote:It was an error to let Britain and Central Europe in before the core countries (founders + Spain + Portugal + Greece + Austria) had achieved political unity. Now, without Britain and possibly without the V4, we can start over again.

The South Falls wrote:

Chan Island wrote:It's very sad that so many countries are going down this authoritarian, hard-right route. The next couple of decades are going to have to see a lot of hard work undoing the damage humanity is doing to itself in this one.

Who says they'll even leave before the next decade? This trend has been happening for a long time, and it doesn't look like people are tired of it. I wish they were.

Shrillland wrote:Illiberal democracy is on the rise in Eastern Europe, more so than in the west or in North America, and nothing can stop it because people like Jaroslaw Kaczynski, who still runs the country from behind the scenes, simply don't care.

Chan Island wrote:

Petrolheadia wrote:If that's authoritarianism, then a 30-year-old beater diesel Mercedes is a limousine.

Why yes, this car is a limousine. Because removing a bunch of judges just because you don't like them is blatantly authoritarianism.

Sicaris wrote:

The South Falls wrote:Who says they'll even leave before the next decade? This trend has been happening for a long time, and it doesn't look like people are tired of it. I wish they were.

What trend? They aren’t far right, they aren’t fascist.

The South Falls wrote:

Sicaris wrote:
What trend? They aren’t far right, they aren’t fascist.

The trend towards right-moving politics.

Petrolheadia wrote:

The South Falls wrote:The trend towards right-moving politics.

It's a government that created child benefits, increased the minimum wage and is thinking about a higher top tax rate.

Chan Island wrote:

The South Falls wrote:Who says they'll even leave before the next decade? This trend has been happening for a long time, and it doesn't look like people are tired of it. I wish they were.

There are a few signs in Britain that it's reversing, but very very slowly. I'm afraid you are right.

Swindenland wrote:

Risottia wrote:
And that's exactly why the EU should do its best to piss of the V4 countries so they will leave. Fuck the Visegrad fascist governments.

As a proud EU citizen, I fell very sad by having to agree with you. The visegrad group are goats eating off Germany's and France's budget, taking it away from countries that really need it (Lithuania or Romania) and use it for bitching fascism. If you oppose everything the EU does, leave it. The EU should be only western and northern europe with central european states willibg to comply.
If Poland looses access to the common market they'll get immediately fucked. The EU NEEDS TO BE A MAN and say: "If you don't comply, face the consequences." I wonder how long they'd make it on their own.

The main reason why the EU is failling is because it gives a weak snowflake-like appereance, which makes the Poles (not all, as only roughly a third voted for PiS) feel like a superoir race. I want to point out one thing - Poles are Slavs, and they are nothing more than Ivans and Mashas riding goats enwrapped in Confederacy flags. Just kick them out.

Evil Lord Bane wrote:I predicted this when the EU opened it's boarders to unlimited migration from the middle east and Africa, many years ago. The far right, which had been lurking just under the surface of Europe since the mid 1940's, have come out in force, and has effected a paradigm shift away from a post-national, centralized, secular government of the EU, to a nationalist, de-centralized, Christian based, very right wing model. The EU exceeded it's mandate, and tried to force a "one size fits all" government run from Brussels, that no one voted for, and without the consent of the people. I think Quit-Italy is next, and the break up of the EU is not very far away. This is the failure of those who supported the European push into globalism, the policies they made, and the rule they created without the will or consent of the people of Europe.

Evil Lord Bane wrote:a paradigm shift away from a post-national, centralized, secular government of the EU, to a nationalist, de-centralized, Christian based, very right wing model. The EU exceeded it's mandate, and tried to force a "one size fits all" government run from Brussels, that no one voted for, and without the consent of the people. I think Quit-Italy is next, and the break up of the EU is not very far away. This is the failure of those who supported the European push into globalism, the policies they made, and the rule they created without the will or consent of the people of Europe.

Skarten wrote:

Evil Lord Bane wrote:I predicted this when the EU opened it's boarders to unlimited migration from the middle east and Africa, many years ago. The far right, which had been lurking just under the surface of Europe since the mid 1940's, have come out in force, and has effected a paradigm shift away from a post-national, centralized, secular government of the EU, to a nationalist, de-centralized, Christian based, very right wing model. The EU exceeded it's mandate, and tried to force a "one size fits all" government run from Brussels, that no one voted for, and without the consent of the people. I think Quit-Italy is next, and the break up of the EU is not very far away. This is the failure of those who supported the European push into globalism, the policies they made, and the rule they created without the will or consent of the people of Europe.

Why yes, because anyone that is right of the extreme left is far-right.

Petrolheadia wrote:

The South Falls wrote:The trend towards right-moving politics.

It's a government that created child benefits, increased the minimum wage and is thinking about a higher top tax rate.