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Would you vote for independence?

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Should America be independent?

YES! Give me Liberty, or give me Death!
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NO! God save the King
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The Thirteen Colonies
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Would you vote for independence?

Postby The Thirteen Colonies » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:00 pm

It's 1776, but you know how the United States will be 242 years later, you also know what became of the remaining British colonies.

Would you vote for independence?

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:05 pm

I was not a fan of the colonists, I must say.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:21 pm

Am I in the British-American Colonies in the year of 1776?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:23 pm

By then they were engaged in open military aggression against us, what other choice is there?
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Postby Austria Minor » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:23 pm

Well, I'd probably vote for the British to keep ruling its American Colony. We probably wouldn't be in such a frightful mess with a Queen in charge.

BTW, you can tell i'm a loyalist supporter.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:24 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:By then they were engaged in open military aggression against us, what other choice is there?

Surrender, obviously.
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Postby Ieskarios » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:25 pm

I'm a Canadian so I have a pro-loyalist bias. ;)

Loyalist all the way, no independent U.S.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:26 pm

Ifreann wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:By then they were engaged in open military aggression against us, what other choice is there?

Surrender, obviously.

But as a Member of Congress at that time, I would be a representative of the colonists, not the British.
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Postby Firaxin » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:29 pm

Yes I would! (I’d also attempt to influence the founding fathers to take Canada as well.)

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Postby Elvectica » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:30 pm

Yeah, sorry, I think its safe to say that I'd be a loyalist. God save the King I guess.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:32 pm

Yes, then I travel to England and shoot the King with ye olde flintlock pistol.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:32 pm

Firaxin wrote:Yes I would! (I’d also attempt to influence the founding fathers to take Canada as well.)

We sent Benjamin Franklin to ask them, they said no.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:33 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Surrender, obviously.

But as a Member of Congress at that time, I would be a representative of the colonists, not the British.

Why would you be a member of Congress at that time?

And my 1st question wasn't answered, OP.
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Postby Hinodia » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:33 pm

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:34 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Yes, then I travel to England and shoot the King with ye olde flintlock pistol.

That would completely ruin any chance of peace with Britain. Also would turn the more conservative Founding Fathers against the war.
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Postby Luziyca » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:35 pm

If you stole the food of the civilians in the Colonies, you might be able to fatten up your OP and maybe allow us to come to a reasonable and informed decision without worrying about...

...shit, where did my food go!?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:36 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Yes, then I travel to England and shoot the King with ye olde flintlock pistol.

That would completely ruin any chance of peace with Britain. Also would turn the more conservative Founding Fathers against the war.


Who said I wanted peace? Total war is the best path forward Parkus.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:37 pm

I would vote for independence.

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And that wasn't the flag of the newly independent US...
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:37 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:But as a Member of Congress at that time, I would be a representative of the colonists, not the British.

Why would you be a member of Congress at that time?

And my 1st question wasn't answered, OP.

Independence wasn't declared by a plebescite, it was declared by a vote of the states' representatives.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:39 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Why would you be a member of Congress at that time?

And my 1st question wasn't answered, OP.

Independence wasn't declared by a plebescite, it was declared by a vote of the states' representatives.

Ok? That doesn't answer my question of why you'd be member of Congress at that time.

Also, OP, answer my question pls.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:40 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:That would completely ruin any chance of peace with Britain. Also would turn the more conservative Founding Fathers against the war.


Who said I wanted peace? Total war is the best path forward Parkus.

Not with Britain, Europe needed them to contend against the French after the French Revolution. We needed to patch things up with Britain ASAP
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:41 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Who said I wanted peace? Total war is the best path forward Parkus.

Not with Britain, Europe needed them to contend against the French after the French Revolution. We needed to patch things up with Britain ASAP


Napoleon did nothing wrong :^]
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:41 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Independence wasn't declared by a plebescite, it was declared by a vote of the states' representatives.

Ok? That doesn't answer my question of why you'd be member of Congress at that time.

Also, OP, answer my question pls.

If I'm voting on the issue, it means I'm a representative, since they're the ones who voted
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:42 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Not with Britain, Europe needed them to contend against the French after the French Revolution. We needed to patch things up with Britain ASAP


Napoleon did nothing wrong :^]

Gonna have to side with Gouverneur Morris on this
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