Study suggests we invent social issues where there are none

[Balnik]

Don't mind me. Just here to see people complain about menial social campaigns and opinions.

[Liriena]

"something true"

Dude, agreeing with an opinion doesn't make it true, specially an opinion about who is or isn't entitled to reparations for decades of state-sponsored injustice.

That was a really long and pseudo-sophisticated way of saying "nou".

I aim to please. ;3

[Liriena]

"something true"

Dude, agreeing with an opinion doesn't make it true, specially an opinion about who is or isn't entitled to reparations for decades of state-sponsored injustice.

Why "especially" an "opinion" like that?

Because entitlement is not quantifiable?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I don't see this being used to dismiss people's concerns categorically at all...

That's kind of my worry. I don't think these findings should be dismissed or demonized since overemphasizing a problem can be just as dangerous as ignoring it, but I can also see it being used to dismiss people with real concerns as "imagining things."

Undoubtedly it could be used both ways. Yes. But it is interesting, nonetheless. I sort of thought so, because it seems indeed like we target or focus on solving problems. I’m not surprised we also at times may create issues where there are none, just because we are problem solvers. But I agree that we should not try to shut down or dismiss discussion of a problem or possible solution based on this study.

Sometimes people see an issue where there is none, but maybe we’re not seeing it in the way they’re approaching the situation. It doesn’t mean that there couldn’t be an issue.

[Valrifell]

This explains the alt-right weirdos screeching about degeneracy, too.

Whenever I make a comment about anything I can smell you just around the corner about to whip out your patented "X does the same thing so nyah" retort.

still luv u tho

Bloodhounds smell real well too, so nyah.

[Fascist Ultramarr]

That explains a lot about social justice warriors, tbh.

This explains the alt-right weirdos screeching about degeneracy, too.

Many people oppose degeneracy and the shallow amoral hyper consumerist culture of today. I feel pity for people that behave in a degenerate way hopefully they will see the truth and turn against the mental engineering

[The South Falls]

This explains the alt-right weirdos screeching about degeneracy, too.

Many people oppose degeneracy and the shallow amoral hyper consumerist culture of today. I feel pity for people that behave in a degenerate way hopefully they will see the truth and turn against the mental engineering

What is degenerate to you?

[Ors Might]

Many people oppose degeneracy and the shallow amoral hyper consumerist culture of today. I feel pity for people that behave in a degenerate way hopefully they will see the truth and turn against the mental engineering

What is degenerate to you?

Presumably anything that he feels doesn’t rebuke the “NWO”.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

After a strange, strange conversation with my spouse about this very study, I decided to share something I was thinking about regarding ''inventing social issues where there are none''. Bare with me, this may be bizarre and full of icky words to some but I promise there's a point to this. Well, or at least I see one.

On Piracy...

You have Suzy and Bob. Suzy and Bob are a couple who want to watch the new 50 Shades movie *urk*. Going to the theater is around $25 for both of them. Bob is a penny pincher and doesn't want to spend the cash. Besides, he wants to push a cucumber up Suzy's snatch and doing that at the movies may not be convenient. So, Bob hears that http://www.ratchetmovies.com (fake site, of course) is streaming a pirated version of the movie, and it's free. Bob thinks ''BINGO! I can watch the movie with Suzy, at home, where I can push the cucumber up her hoohah in privacy and comfort and, better yet, I won't have to spend the cash on gas, tickets and pop corn. Sweet!'' Ok. Suzy and Bob do their thing, free, no problem. More power to them, right? They had their cake and ate it too, yadda yadda yadda.

Some may not see an issue here. He pirated a movie, didn't have to spend any money. Profit? But this issue is more complex than just what suits Suzy and Bob.

Elena, Herbert and Frank worked on the set of 50 Shades. Elena is a makeup artist, Herbert was in sound, and Frank was one of the electricians on set. Elena, Herbert and Frank put weeks of their time in the production of this movie. They worked hard, through bad weather, sickness (in case one of them got the flu or whatever), long hours, prick directors, bitchy actors, all that jazz. Elena, Herbert and Frank are getting paid (they need their money, you know), and I'm almost sure a good chunk of that pay comes from the sales of the movie tickets (directly or indirectly). In essence (and to some that may seem like nothing- it was just two people), Bob and Suzy are stealing from Elena, Herbert and Frank. Add more Suzys and Bobs doing the same, and these people are pretty much or almost working for free.

Some people may argue that there is no problem here, in doing this. But there is, a big one, and I think it would be messed up if someone uses the findings of this study to shut down any debate about it. ''Oh, quiet. You're just trying to invent issues where there are none because studies say people are problem solvers'', when there is a real issue or there could be a real issue and not just someone trying to be a busy bee.

[Nouveau Yathrib]

After a strange, strange conversation with my spouse about this very study, I decided to share something I was thinking about regarding ''inventing social issue where there are none''. Bare with me, this may be bizarre and full of icky words to some but I promise there's a point to this. Well, or at least I see one.

On Piracy...

You have Suzy and Bob. Suzy and Bob are a couple who want to watch the new 50 Shades movie *urk*. Going to the theater is around $25 for both of them. Bob is a penny pincher and doesn't want to spend the cash. Besides, he wants to push a cucumber up Suzy's snatch and doing that at the movies may not be convenient. So, Bob hears that http://www.ratchetmovies.com (fake site, of course) is streaming a pirated version of the movie, and it's free. Bob thinks ''BINGO! I can watch the movie with Suzy, at home, where I can push the cucumber up her hoohah in privacy and comfort and, better yet, I won't have to spend the cash on gas, tickets and pop corn. Sweet!'' Ok. Suzy and Bob do their thing, free, no problem. More power to them, right? They had their cake and ate it too, yadda yadda yadda.

Some may not see an issue here. He pirated a movie, didn't have to spend any money. Profit? But this issue is more complex than just what suits Suzy and Bob.

Elena, Herbert and Frank worked on the set of 50 Shades. Elena is a makeup artist, Herbert was in sound, and Frank was one of the electricians on set. Elena, Herbert and Frank put weeks of their time in the production of this movie. They worked hard, through bad weather, sickness (in case one of them got the flu or whatever), long hours, prick directors, bitchy actors, all that jazz. Elena, Herbert and Frank are getting paid (they need their money, you know), and I'm almost sure a good chunk of that pay comes from the sales of the movie tickets (directly or indirectly). In essence (and to some that may seem like nothing- it was just two people), Bob and Suzy are stealing from Elena, Herbert and Frank. Add more Suzys and Bobs doing the same, and these people are pretty much or almost working for free.

Some people may argue that there is no problem here, in doing this. But there is, a big one, and I think it would messed up if someone uses the findings of this study to shut down any debate about it. ''Oh, quiet. You're just trying to invent issues where there are none because studies say people are problem solvers'', when there is a real issue or there could be a real issue and not just someone trying to be a busy bee.

Well said. One solution to that problem would be to make the movie available for home viewing via DVD or Netflix (which I think is the case with the actual movie).

I wonder how using medical marijuana to treat the opioid addiction epidemic will play out. Weed has a much higher THC content than it did in 1960s, which may have led to rising weed addiction rates among teens.

AFAIK, weed is less damaging even if you do get hooked on it.

True, but it doesn't negate your original point about people being less resilient to pain than they used to be.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

After a strange, strange conversation with my spouse about this very study, I decided to share something I was thinking about regarding ''inventing social issue where there are none''. Bare with me, this may be bizarre and full of icky words to some but I promise there's a point to this. Well, or at least I see one.

On Piracy...

You have Suzy and Bob. Suzy and Bob are a couple who want to watch the new 50 Shades movie *urk*. Going to the theater is around $25 for both of them. Bob is a penny pincher and doesn't want to spend the cash. Besides, he wants to push a cucumber up Suzy's snatch and doing that at the movies may not be convenient. So, Bob hears that http://www.ratchetmovies.com (fake site, of course) is streaming a pirated version of the movie, and it's free. Bob thinks ''BINGO! I can watch the movie with Suzy, at home, where I can push the cucumber up her hoohah in privacy and comfort and, better yet, I won't have to spend the cash on gas, tickets and pop corn. Sweet!'' Ok. Suzy and Bob do their thing, free, no problem. More power to them, right? They had their cake and ate it too, yadda yadda yadda.

Some may not see an issue here. He pirated a movie, didn't have to spend any money. Profit? But this issue is more complex than just what suits Suzy and Bob.

Elena, Herbert and Frank worked on the set of 50 Shades. Elena is a makeup artist, Herbert was in sound, and Frank was one of the electricians on set. Elena, Herbert and Frank put weeks of their time in the production of this movie. They worked hard, through bad weather, sickness (in case one of them got the flu or whatever), long hours, prick directors, bitchy actors, all that jazz. Elena, Herbert and Frank are getting paid (they need their money, you know), and I'm almost sure a good chunk of that pay comes from the sales of the movie tickets (directly or indirectly). In essence (and to some that may seem like nothing- it was just two people), Bob and Suzy are stealing from Elena, Herbert and Frank. Add more Suzys and Bobs doing the same, and these people are pretty much or almost working for free.

Some people may argue that there is no problem here, in doing this. But there is, a big one, and I think it would messed up if someone uses the findings of this study to shut down any debate about it. ''Oh, quiet. You're just trying to invent issues where there are none because studies say people are problem solvers'', when there is a real issue or there could be a real issue and not just someone trying to be a busy bee.

Well said. One solution to that problem would be to make the movie available for home viewing via DVD or Netflix (which I think is the case with the actual movie).

Well, this example was more along the lines of people who seek to watch a movie that is still in theaters. Because there are people who pirate movies that way. They go to the theater and record the movie on a device as it's being played on the big screen and then upload it for free streaming on certain sites.

[USS Monitor]

Well said. One solution to that problem would be to make the movie available for home viewing via DVD or Netflix (which I think is the case with the actual movie).

Well, this example was more along the lines of people who seek to watch a movie that is still in theaters. Because there are people who pirate movies that way. They go to the theater and record the movie on a device as it's being played on the big screen and then upload it for free streaming on certain sites.

When I lived in China, there were a lot of bootleg DVDs made that way, but the first ones to hit the market always had terrible image quality and the subtitles were always wrong.

[Bombadil]

Well, this example was more along the lines of people who seek to watch a movie that is still in theaters. Because there are people who pirate movies that way. They go to the theater and record the movie on a device as it's being played on the big screen and then upload it for free streaming on certain sites.

When I lived in China, there were a lot of bootleg DVDs made that way, but the first ones to hit the market always had terrible image quality and the subtitles were always wrong.

You missed VCDs, when sometimes you'd have half of one movie and half another, it might be months before you saw the conclusion or opening of either.

I also once had subtitles that clearly belonged to a porn film over.. I think it was Finding Nemo.

[USS Monitor]

When I lived in China, there were a lot of bootleg DVDs made that way, but the first ones to hit the market always had terrible image quality and the subtitles were always wrong.

You missed VCDs, when sometimes you'd have half of one movie and half another, it might be months before you saw the conclusion or opening of either.

I also once had subtitles that clearly belonged to a porn film over.. I think it was Finding Nemo.

I got some where the subtitles were from a different movie. There was some guy in Shijiazhuang that just used the same subtitles on all his bootleg DVDs, regardless what movie it was supposed to be. The first subtitle said [man speaking Serbo-Croatian] and it became sort of a running joke among the American teachers at my school.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

When I lived in China, there were a lot of bootleg DVDs made that way, but the first ones to hit the market always had terrible image quality and the subtitles were always wrong.

You missed VCDs, when sometimes you'd have half of one movie and half another, it might be months before you saw the conclusion or opening of either.

I also once had subtitles that clearly belonged to a porn film over.. I think it was Finding Nemo.

This made me choke on my drink.

Ouch, explain that one to little Xiaoman. ''No darling, Marlin was Nemo's father, not that lady's daddy...''

[Semara]

People enjoy being outraged. It is sort of a thrill that comes with it. People will invent problems or more often exasterbate small ones and create nation-dividing issues.

[Bombadil]

You missed VCDs, when sometimes you'd have half of one movie and half another, it might be months before you saw the conclusion or opening of either.

I also once had subtitles that clearly belonged to a porn film over.. I think it was Finding Nemo.

This made me choke on my drink.

Ouch, explain that one to little Xiaoman. ''No darling, Marlin was Nemo's father, not that lady's daddy...''

If Nemo is a euphemism for g-spot then no wonder it took the father 90 minutes to find it..

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

This made me choke on my drink.

Ouch, explain that one to little Xiaoman. ''No darling, Marlin was Nemo's father, not that lady's daddy...''

If Nemo is a euphemism for g-spot then no wonder it took the father 90 minutes to find it..

Stop it, man. I'm a very visual person, I get the story going in my head and these kinds of posts tend to mindfuck me.

[Luziyca]

Can't say I am too shocked by this.

[Great-America]

Yeah, it seems that we make up many problems from scratch. However, as people have already said on this thread, this knowledge should not be used to dismiss legitimate concerns... If only we could agree on what a legitimate concern is.

[Neutraligon]

I am still wondering how much of this is ignoring the smaller issues to deal with the larger issues? I mean there is no reason to worry about marriage equality if black people are being lynched.

[Proctopeo]

I am still wondering how much of this is ignoring the smaller issues to deal with the larger issues? I mean there is no reason to worry about marriage equality if black people are being lynched.

I don't see how you'd consider this a possibility given the study's methodology and results...

[Des-Bal]

Neat little example of inventing social issues, there was something of a firestorm as the Papa Johns founder stepped down after "reprehensible" comments he made during a conference lead to the company losing clients and bleeding the value of their stock. His reprehensible comments were "Colonel Sanders called blacks niggers" and noting with disgust that in his youth there had been lynchings where he grew up.

The threshold for perceived racism is low enough in some people that being aware of racism is racist.

[USS Monitor]

Neat little example of inventing social issues, there was something of a firestorm as the Papa Johns founder stepped down after "reprehensible" comments he made during a conference lead to the company losing clients and bleeding the value of their stock. His reprehensible comments were "Colonel Sanders called blacks niggers" and noting with disgust that in his youth there had been lynchings where he grew up.

The threshold for perceived racism is low enough in some people that being aware of racism is racist.

I saw the headlines and never bothered to look up what the comments were. If that's what all the fuss was about, that's impressively dumb.

[Thermodolia]

Neat little example of inventing social issues, there was something of a firestorm as the Papa Johns founder stepped down after "reprehensible" comments he made during a conference lead to the company losing clients and bleeding the value of their stock. His reprehensible comments were "Colonel Sanders called blacks niggers" and noting with disgust that in his youth there had been lynchings where he grew up.

The threshold for perceived racism is low enough in some people that being aware of racism is racist.

You’ve got to be kidding me