Study suggests we invent social issues where there are none

[Liriena]

Except they didn't.

Historically speaking, capitalists have been more than happy to side with fascists out of fear of communism, rather than the other way around. Actual, real-world "international finance" either directly financed or indirectly supported your fascists idols over the decades.

But we digress. Your overarching argument about social issues being a "distraction" crafted by the "NWO" to distract us is just the same old nazi bullshit we've been hearing for decades, and if you actually thought critically you'd realize that this idea serves one purpose: to legitimize the fascist oppression of social minorities.

Also, black people are oppressed in the United States to this day, even without the explicitly racist laws of the past.

don't feel oppressed. dunno what you talking about.

Well, at the risk of sounding like I'm whitesplaining, there is evidence of widespread racial disparities in the criminal justice system that have no discernible causes other than, most likely, racial bias, particularly in sentencing.

There's also the long-term socioeconomic consequences of redlining, which persist to this day.

[Fascist Ultramarr]

don't feel oppressed. dunno what you talking about.

Well, at the risk of sounding like I'm whitesplaining, there is evidence of widespread racial disparities in the criminal justice system that have no discernible causes other than, most likely, racial bias, particularly in sentencing.

There's also the long-term socioeconomic consequences of redlining, which persist to this day.

What is "whitesplaining" even meant to mean

[Estanglia]

Facist Ultramarr, provide some proof instead of going 'people won't believe me'. Obviously they wouldn't because you won't provide proof. The burden of proof is on you to prove the existence of this 'NWO' or whatever organisation you're talking about, not us to disprove it. If you have proof, provide it now. If not, stop making unsubstantiated, irrelevant statements about 'international finance'.

[Liriena]

Except they didn't.

Historically speaking, capitalists have been more than happy to side with fascists out of fear of communism, rather than the other way around. Actual, real-world "international finance" either directly financed or indirectly supported your fascists idols over the decades.

But we digress. Your overarching argument about social issues being a "distraction" crafted by the "NWO" to distract us is just the same old nazi bullshit we've been hearing for decades, and if you actually thought critically you'd realize that this idea serves one purpose: to legitimize the fascist oppression of social minorities.

Also, black people are oppressed in the United States to this day, even without the explicitly racist laws of the past.

Minorites are treated extremely well in the west to the point of being given privileges at times. International finance targeted every country without debt and usury and Rothschild banks majority of which were 3rd positionists or fascists. "Fascist oppressions of minoirties" when fascism has no influence in the occupied institutions of the west and most of the extremely rich and powerful are ethnically Jews and black people are given affirmative actions and the 3rd world is allowed open door migration but minorities are "oppressed". You believe the liberal globalist capitalist US is "fascist" and you seem to believe the "Fascists" are the evil racist bogey men. No where is as tolerant as the west which takes tolerance way too far until the point of bending over to avoid being called racist. In actually racist and oppressive society you wouldn't be complaining here you will be like black people in the early 1900s or the Boers or Tibetans

No.

[Fascist Ultramarr]

Facist Ultramarr, provide some proof instead of going 'people won't believe me'. Obviously they wouldn't because you won't provide proof. The burden of proof is on you to prove the existence of this 'NWO' or whatever organisation you're talking about, not us to disprove it. If you have proof, provide it now. If not, stop making unsubstantiated, irrelevant statements about 'international finance'.

I have in the past and they deleted my account but I will happily email them. I will see if they are sources that wont get shut down

[Liriena]

Well, at the risk of sounding like I'm whitesplaining, there is evidence of widespread racial disparities in the criminal justice system that have no discernible causes other than, most likely, racial bias, particularly in sentencing.

There's also the long-term socioeconomic consequences of redlining, which persist to this day.

What is "whitesplaining" even meant to mean

Is that all you have to say about that post?

Alright then.

[Estanglia]

Well, at the risk of sounding like I'm whitesplaining, there is evidence of widespread racial disparities in the criminal justice system that have no discernible causes other than, most likely, racial bias, particularly in sentencing.

There's also the long-term socioeconomic consequences of redlining, which persist to this day.

What is "whitesplaining" even meant to mean

Essentially a white person explaining to a black person how to feel, think etc. (at least, from my understanding).

[Uxupox]

don't feel oppressed. dunno what you talking about.

Well, at the risk of sounding like I'm whitesplaining, there is evidence of widespread racial disparities in the criminal justice system that have no discernible causes other than, most likely, racial bias, particularly in sentencing.

There's also the long-term socioeconomic consequences of redlining, which persist to this day.

don't get arrested and have a good credit score seems to be the answer.

[Fascist Ultramarr]

What is "whitesplaining" even meant to mean

Is that all you have to say about that post?

Alright then.

There is also the fact to the matter that black people have a higher violent crime rate which is why well off black immigrants don't get arrested that much as they didn't grow up with the ghetto "culture" encouraging crime and racial conflicts by international finance owned "entertainment" like hip hop gangster rap

[Fascist Ultramarr]

What is "whitesplaining" even meant to mean

Essentially a white person explaining to a black person how to feel, think etc. (at least, from my understanding).

Sounds a bit weird. I am guessing like the far left getting offended and triggered on behalf of black people

[Liriena]

Well, at the risk of sounding like I'm whitesplaining, there is evidence of widespread racial disparities in the criminal justice system that have no discernible causes other than, most likely, racial bias, particularly in sentencing.

There's also the long-term socioeconomic consequences of redlining, which persist to this day.

don't get arrested and have a good credit score seems to be the answer.

That's a very cowardly way of glossing over widespread socioeconomic problems.

Saying "don't get arrested" doesn't even address the existence of racial bias in the criminal justice system. It's like telling diabetic people "don't get diabetes" when talking about the issue of overpriced epipens.

[Uxupox]

Is that all you have to say about that post?

Alright then.

There is also the fact to the matter that black people have a higher violent crime rate which is why well off black immigrants don't get arrested that much as they didn't grow up with the ghetto "culture" encouraging crime and racial conflicts by international finance owned "entertainment" like hip hop gangster rap

doubt. i've listened to ghetto/rap/trap music all my life and it hasn't encourage me to go out and murder.

[Liriena]

Is that all you have to say about that post?

Alright then.

There is also the fact to the matter that black people have a higher violent crime rate which is why well off black immigrants don't get arrested that much as they didn't grow up with the ghetto "culture" encouraging crime and racial conflicts by international finance owned "entertainment" like hip hop gangster rap

Astounding anthropological and sociological analysis there, dude.

[Fascist Ultramarr]

There is also the fact to the matter that black people have a higher violent crime rate which is why well off black immigrants don't get arrested that much as they didn't grow up with the ghetto "culture" encouraging crime and racial conflicts by international finance owned "entertainment" like hip hop gangster rap

doubt. i've listened to ghetto/rap/trap music all my life and it hasn't encourage me to go out and murder.

Do you see it as just entertainment or do you see it as something to aspire and look up to. The ones that look up to the thug culture from things like gangster rap go down the bad path thinking hussling in the hood(or whatever they call it) and pimping and shooting cops and selling drugs is "cool". The ones that act like what they are influenced by are the problem. Its like people brainwashed by the mainstream media owned by international finance. (6 Zionist companies own over 96 percent of media)

[Uxupox]

don't get arrested and have a good credit score seems to be the answer.

That's a very cowardly way of glossing over widespread socioeconomic problems.

Saying "don't get arrested" doesn't even address the existence of racial bias in the criminal justice system. It's like telling diabetic people "don't get diabetes" when talking about the issue of overpriced epipens.

so? it's a damn fact we use our money for shit that we don't need. golden cuban chains that cost more than my car, damn rip flair drip costumes and whole array of shit.

[Liriena]

That's a very cowardly way of glossing over widespread socioeconomic problems.

Saying "don't get arrested" doesn't even address the existence of racial bias in the criminal justice system. It's like telling diabetic people "don't get diabetes" when talking about the issue of overpriced epipens.

so? it's a damn fact we use our money for shit that we don't need. golden cuban chains that cost more than my car, damn rip flair drip costumes and whole array of shit.

That is a phenomenon not exclusive to black Americans and rooted in a plethora of factors, and it doesn't negate the existence of systemic issues rooted in institutionally ingrained biases both past and present.

[Liriena]

doubt. i've listened to ghetto/rap/trap music all my life and it hasn't encourage me to go out and murder.

Do you see it as just entertainment or do you see it as something to aspire and look up to. The ones that look up to the thug culture from things like gangster rap go down the bad path thinking hussling in the hood(or whatever they call it) and pimping and shooting cops and selling drugs is "cool". The ones that act like what they are influenced by are the problem. Its like people brainwashed by the mainstream media owned by international finance. (6 Zionist companies own over 96 percent of media)

As someone who actually studied communication and mass media... your conception of how media influence works is completely out of whack.

[Uxupox]

so? it's a damn fact we use our money for shit that we don't need. golden cuban chains that cost more than my car, damn rip flair drip costumes and whole array of shit.

That is a phenomenon not exclusive to black Americans and rooted in a plethora of factors, and it doesn't negate the existence of systemic issues rooted in institutionally ingrained biases both past and present.

so we "fix" this by eliminating what exactly?

[Estanglia]

Is that all you have to say about that post?

Alright then.

There is also the fact to the matter that black people have a higher violent crime rate which is why well off black immigrants don't get arrested that much as they didn't grow up with the ghetto "culture" encouraging crime and racial conflicts by international finance owned "entertainment" like hip hop gangster rap

I distinctly remember telling you to stop with the unsubstantiated 'international finance' statements. Its almost like they are a boogeyman, a scapegoat you can blame all societal ills on and can call people who don't agree 'indoctrinated' or something like that. An international organisation would definitely have people who would want to, say, hack and/or leak its existence, so finance being the only exception seems very... odd.

[USS Monitor]

Except they didn't.

Historically speaking, capitalists have been more than happy to side with fascists out of fear of communism, rather than the other way around. Actual, real-world "international finance" either directly financed or indirectly supported your fascists idols over the decades.

But we digress. Your overarching argument about social issues being a "distraction" crafted by the "NWO" to distract us is just the same old nazi bullshit we've been hearing for decades, and if you actually thought critically you'd realize that this idea serves one purpose: to legitimize the fascist oppression of social minorities.

Also, black people are oppressed in the United States to this day, even without the explicitly racist laws of the past.

don't feel oppressed. dunno what you talking about.

Some people have different definitions of what it means to be "oppressed."

For some people, "oppression" means being allowed no control over your own destiny, no voice in the political process, no chance to choose your own purpose in life. In that sense, the average black American isn't oppressed.

For other people, "oppression" just means being disadvantaged or discriminated against in any way. Black people are discriminated against in some ways, and they do have higher rates of poverty. Personally, I find it unhelpful to use such a broad definition of oppression. I think it's useful to have a distinction between a situation that is kind of annoying and/or unfair vs. a system where you are not allowed to have a life of your own. The US can be annoying and unfair, but it's not a system where black people aren't allowed to live their own lives.

[Estanglia]

doubt. i've listened to ghetto/rap/trap music all my life and it hasn't encourage me to go out and murder.

Do you see it as just entertainment or do you see it as something to aspire and look up to. The ones that look up to the thug culture from things like gangster rap go down the bad path thinking hussling in the hood(or whatever they call it) and pimping and shooting cops and selling drugs is "cool". The ones that act like what they are influenced by are the problem. Its like people brainwashed by the mainstream media owned by international finance. (6 Zionist companies own over 96 percent of media)

What are these 'Zionist' companies, and where is proof?

[Ors Might]

I presume that you have evidence of this? Assuming that a secret cabal this powerful would allow any evidence or knowledge of its existence.

Those that know aren't believed so they don't care when the masses are docile and hyper consumerist globalists

So you don’t have evidence?

[Fascist Ultramarr]

Do you see it as just entertainment or do you see it as something to aspire and look up to. The ones that look up to the thug culture from things like gangster rap go down the bad path thinking hussling in the hood(or whatever they call it) and pimping and shooting cops and selling drugs is "cool". The ones that act like what they are influenced by are the problem. Its like people brainwashed by the mainstream media owned by international finance. (6 Zionist companies own over 96 percent of media)

As someone who actually studied communication and mass media... your conception of how media influence works is completely out of whack.

Both sides including swathes of "alternatives" like Alex Jones are owned by the same side. They push globalism and their propaganda to their target audiences in a different way. Hence to get leftists they use the BBC and CNN while to get the flag waving Bush supporter types they use fox news. Then one side purposefully makes mistakes when they are losing so the "opposing" side can take over still owned by the same financers controlling society. When they own all of enterainment and media as well most of the government and education its a multiple pronged indoctrination even when the sheep dont notice. The 3rd postion groups that arent controlled are ruthlessly demonised if they are western often called racists and nazis, if they are middle eastern called terrorists and if they are right or left (not controlled) called extreme and then accused of crimes and "human rights" abuse for countries when the governments of the US, UK, France, Israel, Saudi, UAE and so on are the real human rights abusers and their governments are the mass murderers.

[USS Monitor]

Facist Ultramarr, provide some proof instead of going 'people won't believe me'. Obviously they wouldn't because you won't provide proof. The burden of proof is on you to prove the existence of this 'NWO' or whatever organisation you're talking about, not us to disprove it. If you have proof, provide it now. If not, stop making unsubstantiated, irrelevant statements about 'international finance'.

I have in the past and they deleted my account but I will happily email them. I will see if they are sources that wont get shut down

Yeah, about that... I've argued against DOSing you, but your NWO stuff does have a way of derailing threads, and it is a problem.

I think it would be a good idea to take it to TG if Ultramarr and other players want to continue debating his worldview.

[Fascist Ultramarr]

Do you see it as just entertainment or do you see it as something to aspire and look up to. The ones that look up to the thug culture from things like gangster rap go down the bad path thinking hussling in the hood(or whatever they call it) and pimping and shooting cops and selling drugs is "cool". The ones that act like what they are influenced by are the problem. Its like people brainwashed by the mainstream media owned by international finance. (6 Zionist companies own over 96 percent of media)

What are these 'Zionist' companies, and where is proof?

http://tapnewswire.com/2015/10/six-jewi ... lds-media/
Here you go this one also has no content that can be called a "hate site" for and has no slurs or stuff on it although its important to note not every Zionist globalist is a Jew and not all Jews are Zionist globalists. Henry Makow, brother Nathaneal and Rabbi Wiess is against global Zionism for example but Blair, Cameron, Clinton and so on are globalists and work for zionists