The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15

[Tarsonis]

Also, considering he's responsible for Bezos' wealth as it's part of his unknowable cosmic plan, he could just make Bezos give all his money away.

But he doesn't...

It seems pretty obvious that God doesn't exist and this is all a bunch of sophistry to get around the logical inconsistencies that come from believing in his existence, to be honest.

It seems pretty obvious to me that if you want to debate whether or not God exists you should take it to the thread for that. It isn’t this one.

[New haven america]

How can free will exist when he already knows everything and has planned out everything that's going to happen?

1. Decide on a position. 2. I know you're a fake, but at least make it believable.

3. You just said you don't believe in predestination, but you're now advocating it.

1. Why? What wrong with exploring the ins and outs of a religion and coming to your own conclusion to gain better religious understanding?
2. Yes, how dare I not spout harmful and destructive rhetoric like that of Hardcore Bible Humpers. I'm not the one who's against learning about different POV's here, because I'm secure in what I know and believe, you don't seem to be though.
3. I never stated such a thing, you probably have me confused with Hana or Kowani. I did question the idea of predestination though, and I fully admit to that.

[Kowani]

Free will is what the other two things derive from.

Soil and plant biology are dependent on free will now?

Didn’t realize Bezos existed for all of history.

Also-“He could do it too! Is not an argument.”

There's always been people who have been equipped to do good on a wide scale and don't. People like Bezos are just the current generation.

I’m sure the hunter-gatherers were just bursting with material wealth.

Yes, wealth inequality has existed forever, but that doesn’t actually resolve god of…making people ‘s lives dependent on other people’s goodwill-especially when the technology to do anything about it wouldn’t exist for most of humanity.

[New haven america]

How can free will exist when he already knows everything and has planned out everything that's going to happen?

Your ability to choose has not been diminished.

Yes it is, as God already has your entire life planned out from the moment you're born.

After all, he knows everything, that's kind of a big part of being omnipotent.

[Loben The 2nd]

It seems pretty obvious that God doesn't exist and this is all a bunch of sophistry to get around the logical inconsistencies that come from believing in his existence, to be honest.

It seems pretty obvious to me that if you want to debate whether or not God exists you should take it to the thread for that. It isn’t this one.

no you see we're to be educated on how god doesn't exist by enlightened atheists (tm).

thats the true purpose of the christian discussion thread!

[Kowani]

It seems pretty obvious to me that if you want to debate whether or not God exists you should take it to the thread for that. It isn’t this one.

no you see we're to be educated on how god doesn't exist by enlightened atheists (tm).

thats the true purpose of the christian discussion thread!

Hana’s a Buddhist, mate. Try again.

[New haven america]

It seems pretty obvious to me that if you want to debate whether or not God exists you should take it to the thread for that. It isn’t this one.

no you see we're to be educated on how god doesn't exist by enlightened atheists (tm).

thats the true purpose of the christian discussion thread!

Hana's a Buddhist.

[Salus Maior]

no you see we're to be educated on how god doesn't exist by enlightened atheists (tm).

thats the true purpose of the christian discussion thread!

Hana’s a Buddhist, mate. Try again.

And yet she argues like r/atheism's finest.

[Loben The 2nd]

no you see we're to be educated on how god doesn't exist by enlightened atheists (tm).

thats the true purpose of the christian discussion thread!

Hana’s a Buddhist, mate. Try again.

no you see we're to be educated on how god doesn't exist by enlightened atheists (tm).

thats the true purpose of the christian discussion thread!

Hana's a Buddhist.

Enlightened atheists (tm) and their Buddhist compatriot.

[Tarsonis]

no you see we're to be educated on how god doesn't exist by enlightened atheists (tm).

thats the true purpose of the christian discussion thread!

Hana’s a Buddhist, mate. Try again.

Depending on the Buddhist tradition, those aren’t different things

[New haven america]

Hana’s a Buddhist, mate. Try again.

Hana's a Buddhist.

Enlightened atheists (tm) and their Buddhist compatriot.

I'm a Christian.

[Hanafuridake]

It seems pretty obvious that God doesn't exist and this is all a bunch of sophistry to get around the logical inconsistencies that come from believing in his existence, to be honest.

You know, I had some respect for you. And I was starting to have some respect for your own faith as well, but if you're just going to go full fedora and completely attack my faith with half-baked r/atheism bullshit I obviously was wrong to do so.

Maybe I'm mistaking you for someone else, but it seems a pretty common tactic of yours to claim that someone has started to gain your respect and then threaten that they're close to losing it. It's a really lazy ad hominem and if you can't detach your opinion for me from respect for my religion, you never respected my religion in the first place and it would be a waste of time to try and keep such imaginary respect. The fedora-tipping meme is lazy and not worth even acknowledging.

[Tarsonis]

Alright people, head to your corners and take a breather. This is getting heated and thus pointless.

[Salus Maior]

Enlightened atheists (tm) and their Buddhist compatriot.

I'm a Christian.

No, you're not.

[Kowani]

Hana’s a Buddhist, mate. Try again.

And yet she argues like r/atheism's finest.

It’s almost like critiques of a religion might overlap…

Hana’s a Buddhist, mate. Try again.

Depending on the Buddhist tradition, those aren’t different things

I could be totally wrong, but I don’t think that applies to Hana.

[Tabor Horeb]

2. Yes, how dare I not spout harmful and destructive rhetoric like that of Hardcore Bible Humpers. I'm not the one who's against learning about different POV's here, because I'm secure in what I know and believe, you don't seem to be though.

Enlightened atheists (tm) and their Buddhist compatriot.

I'm a Christian.

OK I know I'm just butting in here but how can you be a Christian if you don't believe the Bible? Do you just mean culturally or what? Peace..

[New haven america]

I'm a Christian.

No, you're not.

Well, if that's what you choose to believe, then I can't stop you.

It's a shame that your only exposure to Christianity or Christian ideals was of the hardcore, Right-Wing, Bible-humping conservative variety, as there's a lot of unique and varied Christian traditions throughout the world.

[Hanafuridake]

Hana’s a Buddhist, mate. Try again.

Depending on the Buddhist tradition, those aren’t different things

Don't want to derail the thread, but just pointing out that there's not a single atheistic Buddhist school and I'm not an atheist, the two are mutually incompatible. As someone who's trying to be ordained, this is a major annoyance to me.

[Tarsonis]

And yet she argues like r/atheism's finest.

It’s almost like critiques of a religion might overlap…

So does shit throwing.

Depending on the Buddhist tradition, those aren’t different things

I could be totally wrong, but I don’t think that applies to Hana.

I’m not aware of his particular tradition

[Salus Maior]

You know, I had some respect for you. And I was starting to have some respect for your own faith as well, but if you're just going to go full fedora and completely attack my faith with half-baked r/atheism bullshit I obviously was wrong to do so.

Maybe I'm mistaking you for someone else, but it seems a pretty common tactic of yours to claim that someone has started to gain your respect and then threaten that they're close to losing it. It's a really lazy ad hominem and if you can't detach your opinion for me from respect for my religion, you never respected my religion in the first place and it would be a waste of time to try and keep such imaginary respect. The fedora-tipping meme is lazy and not worth even acknowledging.

Fair enough.

[Tarsonis]

Depending on the Buddhist tradition, those aren’t different things

Don't want to derail the thread, but just pointing out that there's not a single atheistic Buddhist school and I'm not an atheist, the two are mutually incompatible. As someone who's trying to be ordained, this is a major annoyance to me.

Allow me to politely disagree and leave it at that.

[Salus Maior]

No, you're not.

Well, if that's what you choose to believe, then I can't stop you.

It's a shame that your only exposure to Christianity or Christian ideals was of the hardcore, Right-Wing, Bible-humping conservative variety.

Even the most liberal of Christians I've met have displayed some form of coherent Christianity. You haven't done anything, in fact, you've done less than nothing to convince me of any kind of sincere Christianity.

[Tarsonis]

No, you're not.

Well, if that's what you choose to believe, then I can't stop you.

It's a shame that your only exposure to Christianity or Christian ideals was of the hardcore, Right-Wing, Bible-humping conservative variety, as there's a lot of unique and varied Christian traditions throughout the world.

It’s shame you can’t go two posts without mudslinging.

[Farnhamia]

That moment when child malnutrition is at the lowest level in history, as are wars, but you still have to push a narrative anyway.

Kowani, you're such a joke.

Why don't you tell that to the Kurdish kids with the white phosphorus burns, that they live in a world where humanity isn't bent towards evil.

Knock it off with the personal stuff, okay?

[Loben The 2nd]

Enlightened atheists (tm) and their Buddhist compatriot.

I'm a Christian.

allow me to press (x) for that.