The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15

[Northern Davincia]

Because God wouldn't let us stray away in such a way and gave us the Church to ensure that we know how to follow the teachings he left.

And if it was proven somehow, and I'm not saying that this at all is the case, that the Bible was completely written by power-hungry humans, would you still believe it?

Power-hungry humans typically aren't thrown to lions, crucified, or beheaded.

[Tarsonis]

Because God wouldn't let us stray away in such a way and gave us the Church to ensure that we know how to follow the teachings he left.

And if it was proven somehow, and I'm not saying that this at all is the case, that the Bible was completely written by power-hungry humans, would you still believe it?

Oh it was most defintely written by power hungry humans . But that doesn’t make it uninspired

[Tarsonis]

And if it was proven somehow, and I'm not saying that this at all is the case, that the Bible was completely written by power-hungry humans, would you still believe it?

Power-hungry humans typically aren't thrown to lions, crucified, or beheaded.

Sure they are.. when you play the game of thrones you win or you die

[Aellex]

And if it was proven somehow, and I'm not saying that this at all is the case, that the Bible was completely written by power-hungry humans, would you still believe it?

Again :

You're asking "Would your belief about dogma change if that dogma was proved to be a complete fabrication by man", the only thing I can respond to you is that dogma isn't a man-made fabrication but has been revealed to us by God.
The first requirement of your hypothetical being unfulfillable by definition, I can therefore not give you any comment on the second part that requires it to exist.
What you're doing is literally asking "If God was proven to be a man-made thing, would your belief in him changes?" and then screeching in a constantly increasing manner when I'm not giving you a yes or no response because the question is retarded to begin with.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Power-hungry humans typically aren't thrown to lions, crucified, or beheaded.

Sure they are.. when you play the game of thrones you win or you die

-1 point for referencing a TV show.

[Tarsonis]

Sure they are.. when you play the game of thrones you win or you die

-1 point for referencing a TV show.

Is this like cinemasins?

[Benuty]

-1 point for referencing a TV show.

Is this like cinemasins?

No, because you're actually good unlike that pile of trash channel.

[Tarsonis]

Is this like cinemasins?

No, because you're actually good unlike that pile of trash channel.

Aww I love that show. You just can’t take it too seriously

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

And if it was proven somehow, and I'm not saying that this at all is the case, that the Bible was completely written by power-hungry humans, would you still believe it?

Again :

You're asking "Would your belief about dogma change if that dogma was proved to be a complete fabrication by man", the only thing I can respond to you is that dogma isn't a man-made fabrication but has been revealed to us by God.
The first requirement of your hypothetical being unfulfillable by definition, I can therefore not give you any comment on the second part that requires it to exist.
What you're doing is literally asking "If God was proven to be a man-made thing, would your belief in him changes?" and then screeching in a constantly increasing manner when I'm not giving you a yes or no response because the question is retarded to begin with.

Yes, that's what I'm asking. Could you answer the Yes/No question "If God was proven to be a man-made thing and not a real entity, would your belief in him change?"

[Lost Memories]

Because God wouldn't let us stray away in such a way and gave us the Church to ensure that we know how to follow the teachings he left.

And if it was proven somehow, and I'm not saying that this at all is the case, that the Bible was completely written by power-hungry humans, would you still believe it?

First, the bible, both old testament and new testament, are mostly an historical record(plus tales and hymns), they report events which happened in the past.

Secondly. What if the bible was written by vegan aliens? What if by a dodo? What if by a vengeful housewife?
There is a saying about the message being more important than the messager.

Christians recognize the message conveyed in the bible to be good, and in that goodness they recognize the inspiration and presence of God. Who materially wrote it matters only secondarily, as them being the channel by which the inspiration of God manifested.
So if even they were power hungry humans, or aliens, they were God inspired power hungry humans(or aliens), what matters is them being inspired.

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

Is this like cinemasins?

No, because you're actually good unlike that pile of trash channel.

What's wrong with CinemaSins?

[Tarsonis]

No, because you're actually good unlike that pile of trash channel.

What's wrong with CinemaSins?

Probably roasted his favorite movie

[Northern Davincia]

Again :

Yes, that's what I'm asking. Could you answer the Yes/No question "If God was proven to be a man-made thing and not a real entity, would your belief in him change?"

The question is both absurd and impossible.

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

Yes, that's what I'm asking. Could you answer the Yes/No question "If God was proven to be a man-made thing and not a real entity, would your belief in him change?"

The question is both absurd and impossible.

How is it impossible to give a Yes or a No to answer this hypothetical question?

[Tarsonis]

Alright as much as I’ve enjoyed you guys giving CTM a taste of his own medicine, it’s starting to annoy me now.

[Aellex]

How is it impossible to give a Yes or a No to answer this hypothetical question?

"Hypothetically" isn't a magic word that makes retarded questions better.

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

How is it impossible to give a Yes or a No to answer this hypothetical question?

"Hypothetically" isn't a magic word that makes retarded questions better.

Could you just give a yes or no to "If God was disproven without a doubt, would your beliefs change?"

[Lost Memories]

Alright as much as I’ve enjoyed you guys giving CTM a taste of his own medicine, it’s starting to annoy me now.

I'm having an hard time finding something to be salvaged for discussion from him too.
At least that other jab about the Vatican in China opened some interesting research and fact checking. That hauted house reserved for future embassy was also a nice treat.

So, new topic?
On a similar line of what is going on in China, anyone wants to talk about Africa?

[Tarsonis]

Offs,

Hypothetically, if it were conceivable that dogmas could be falsely attributed as truth, and in such a hypothetical situation, a dogma was proven to have been falsely attributed as truth, then yes, any intellectually honest person would have to abdicate belief in such “dogma.


Not that this situation is conceivably possible.

[Tarsonis]

"Hypothetically" isn't a magic word that makes retarded questions better.

Could you just give a yes or no to "If God was disproven without a doubt, would your beliefs change?"

If the impossible thing hypothetically happened, then the impossible reaction to the impossible thing would likely occur .

[Aellex]

Could you just give a yes or no to "If God was disproven without a doubt, would your beliefs change?"

That's a non-sensical question.

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

Offs,

Hypothetically, if it were conceivable that dogmas could be falsely attributed as truth, and in such a hypothetical situation, a dogma was proven to have been falsely attributed as truth, then yes, any intellectually honest person would have to abdicate belief in such “dogma.


Not that this situation is conceivably possible.

More often than not Christians resort to the argument "You just need faith in God"

[Hakons]

"Hypothetically" isn't a magic word that makes retarded questions better.

Could you just give a yes or no to "If God was disproven without a doubt, would your beliefs change?"

No, because it is inherently impossible to disprove God without a doubt. Besides, if the hypothetical had no God, there would be no universe for this hypothetical to exist.

[Tarsonis]

Alright as much as I’ve enjoyed you guys giving CTM a taste of his own medicine, it’s starting to annoy me now.

I'm having an hard time finding something to be salvaged for discussion from him too.
At least that other jab about the Vatican in China opened some interesting research and fact checking. That hauted house reserved for future embassy was also a nice treat.

So, new topic?
On a similar line of what is going on in China, anyone wants to talk about Africa?

I’m thinking of founding an expedition to steal the ark of the covenant from the Ethiopians. Does Kickstarter have a mercenary section?

[Tarsonis]

Offs,

Hypothetically, if it were conceivable that dogmas could be falsely attributed as truth, and in such a hypothetical situation, a dogma was proven to have been falsely attributed as truth, then yes, any intellectually honest person would have to abdicate belief in such “dogma.


Not that this situation is conceivably possible.

More often than not Christians resort to the argument "You just need faith in God"

A religion tells people to have faith. Shocker