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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:52 pm
by Pasong Tirad
Saiwania wrote:Ladies, be careful about getting into any altercation to assist or defend your man in a fight against another man. According to the laws of Leviticus, apparently the penalty for a woman grabbing another man's testicles in that situation- is to cut her hand off.

This is probably one reason why we don't follow Levitican law anymore.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:39 pm
by Negarakita
Diopolis wrote:
Negarakita wrote:Ok so having been kinda scared away from converting to Islam by Amin's latest "Slavery is good because Islam" tirade, I guess I should come here. Is there any branch of Christianity which offers that same relationship with God? Things like dhikr, the hajj, those sorts of things? I feel as though Eastern Orthodoxy is closest to what I want, but Catholicism looks good too. Especially as I do latin.

Have you looked into Eastern-rite Catholicism? If you like eastern mysticism but find yourself drawn to Catholicism, that might be up your alley.

Hmmm, that could be cool?

Do you have any good sites about it? I'm always loath to google religious things because you never know whether its a good source or not.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:52 pm
by Camelone
Negarakita wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Have you looked into Eastern-rite Catholicism? If you like eastern mysticism but find yourself drawn to Catholicism, that might be up your alley.

Hmmm, that could be cool?

Do you have any good sites about it? I'm always loath to google religious things because you never know whether its a good source or not.

A decent site after I scanned it. I would also recommend typing 'Eastern Catholic Church's near me' in Google and get first hand information.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:43 am
by The Archregimancy
Tarsonis wrote:I’ve never reported a moderator for trolling before. Interesting.....


I'm genuinely sorry that you took offence; I honestly thought you were joking, and reacted in that spirit.

My apologies for misreading your intent.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:24 am
by Tarsonis
The Archregimancy wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:I’ve never reported a moderator for trolling before. Interesting.....


I'm genuinely sorry that you took offence; I honestly thought you were joking, and reacted in that spirit.

My apologies for misreading your intent.


I appreciate the apology. Honestly it didn’t bother me, I kind of expected that sort of reaction from the Orrhodox nembers here.

I was only joking about the report though, cause that was such an out of character response from you.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:45 am
by Diopolis
Negarakita wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Have you looked into Eastern-rite Catholicism? If you like eastern mysticism but find yourself drawn to Catholicism, that might be up your alley.

Hmmm, that could be cool?

Do you have any good sites about it? I'm always loath to google religious things because you never know whether its a good source or not.

If you live in a major city, you could just show up at one one Sunday- they tend to be smaller churches and full of friendly people, so someone will probably answer questions after.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:35 am
by El-Amin Caliphate
Negarakita wrote:Ok so having been kinda scared away from converting to Islam by Amin's latest "Slavery is good because Islam" tirade

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=441628&p=34783827#p34783827
Saiwania wrote:Ladies, be careful about getting into any altercation to assist or defend your man in a fight against another man. According to the laws of Leviticus, apparently the penalty for a woman grabbing another man's testicles in that situation- is to cut her hand off.

Christians don't follow the laws of the Old Testament.*

*Christians correct me pls if I am wrong, thank you

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:16 am
by Diopolis
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Negarakita wrote:Ok so having been kinda scared away from converting to Islam by Amin's latest "Slavery is good because Islam" tirade

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=441628&p=34783827#p34783827
Saiwania wrote:Ladies, be careful about getting into any altercation to assist or defend your man in a fight against another man. According to the laws of Leviticus, apparently the penalty for a woman grabbing another man's testicles in that situation- is to cut her hand off.

Christians don't follow the laws of the Old Testament.*

*Christians correct me pls if I am wrong, thank you

Christians don't follow the judicial laws of the old testament, because those are a recording of the civil law code of ancient Israel, a state in which we do not live.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:45 am
by Lower Nubia
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Negarakita wrote:Ok so having been kinda scared away from converting to Islam by Amin's latest "Slavery is good because Islam" tirade

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=441628&p=34783827#p34783827
Saiwania wrote:Ladies, be careful about getting into any altercation to assist or defend your man in a fight against another man. According to the laws of Leviticus, apparently the penalty for a woman grabbing another man's testicles in that situation- is to cut her hand off.

Christians don't follow the laws of the Old Testament.*

*Christians correct me pls if I am wrong, thank you


This is a complicated question, in reality the common view that the Old Testament law was done away with because of Christ’s sacrifice is a partial truth. An example of how the Old is reverberated in the new, is Paul’s quote in Romans 10:5, which is positive affirmation that the laws of Leviticus 18 still apply for faithful Christian obedience. So we do follow the laws, but clearly we don’t chop hands off for threatening inheritance/succession. This, I feel, is because the Church is not a secular state (“my kingdom is not of this earth”), so what is the relevance for inheritance laws for a group which has no inheritance? So that law is gone (fulfilled in the new covenant I should say). We also have the divide between the Jew and Gentile annulled through Christ’s death, because Romans 10 makes the connection that Christ bought the law down, like Moses, in his descent from heaven. While also bringing up the law, like Jonah, in his rise from the grave, giving the law to he gentiles, tearing the temple curtain, etc.. etc...

From this, the necessity of separation in the Old Testament has been eliminated because Jew and Gentile can commune together in Jesus Christ. The change from an earthly, Jewish, kingdom, to the Heavenly, all encompassing, kingdom means many laws which discuss courts, inheritance, judgement, to be unnecessary. Now the law that governs the heart, as stated in Deuteronomy 30:11:15, becomes the measure of loyalty to the king, rather than secular law. These laws are summed up in the Church today.

Final edit: the most important aspect, is Christ’s sacrifice, which is done each week, and even every day, in some cases, in the form of the Eucharist. If Christ is God, and offers a sacrifice for sins, it would be idolatry to offer the Old Testament sacrifices as still capable for offering. As this would make Christ’s offering equal to a mere creature, which is, of course, blasphemy. So a Christian cannot perform the rites of the Old Testament, as the Jews suggest we should because the law is perfect and still in affect, because those laws being performed would automatically be blasphemy.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:56 pm
by The Archregimancy
Tarsonis wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
I'm genuinely sorry that you took offence; I honestly thought you were joking, and reacted in that spirit.

My apologies for misreading your intent.


I appreciate the apology. Honestly it didn’t bother me, I kind of expected that sort of reaction from the Orrhodox nembers here.

I was only joking about the report though, cause that was such an out of character response from you.


Well, intent and tone can both sometimes be hard to read on the interwebz.

Generally I do much better, but we all make mistakes; I hold my hands up and admit I got that one wrong.



Orrhodox nembers


Sounds nasty; but I hear you can get an ointment for it.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:29 pm
by Tarsonis
The Archregimancy wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
I appreciate the apology. Honestly it didn’t bother me, I kind of expected that sort of reaction from the Orrhodox nembers here.

I was only joking about the report though, cause that was such an out of character response from you.


Well, intent and tone can both sometimes be hard to read on the interwebz.

Generally I do much better, but we all make mistakes; I hold my hands up and admit I got that one wrong.



Orrhodox nembers


Sounds nasty; but I hear you can get an ointment for it.


Haha, sorry. Auto correct isn’t always on point.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:57 pm
by New Visayan Islands
I'm curious about the ins and outs of Matrimony: are there cases where a wedding Mass is concelebrated?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:15 pm
by Diopolis
New Visayan Islands wrote:I'm curious about the ins and outs of Matrimony: are there cases where a wedding Mass is concelebrated?

Depends on the rite. You're going to have to specify.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:57 pm
by Ragnarheim
Negarakita wrote:Ok so having been kinda scared away from converting to Islam by Amin's latest "Slavery is good because Islam" tirade, I guess I should come here. Is there any branch of Christianity which offers that same relationship with God? Things like dhikr, the hajj, those sorts of things? I feel as though Eastern Orthodoxy is closest to what I want, but Catholicism looks good too. Especially as I do latin.


No. It's all bollocks. Follow Odin.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:58 pm
by Negarakita
Ragnarheim wrote:
Negarakita wrote:Ok so having been kinda scared away from converting to Islam by Amin's latest "Slavery is good because Islam" tirade, I guess I should come here. Is there any branch of Christianity which offers that same relationship with God? Things like dhikr, the hajj, those sorts of things? I feel as though Eastern Orthodoxy is closest to what I want, but Catholicism looks good too. Especially as I do latin.


No. It's all bollocks. Follow Odin.

I'm sorry, I already do enough roleplaying on this website to go larping around in real life

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:01 pm
by Ragnarheim
Negarakita wrote:
Ragnarheim wrote:
No. It's all bollocks. Follow Odin.

I'm sorry, I already do enough roleplaying on this website to go larping around in real life


Keen on a bit of fiction if you're into Christianity, then.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:03 pm
by Luminesa
Negarakita wrote:
Ragnarheim wrote:
No. It's all bollocks. Follow Odin.

I'm sorry, I already do enough roleplaying on this website to go larping around in real life

The Catholic and Orthodox Churches both have plenty of pilgrimage-opportunities, not sure what the dhikr is. However, Catholicism and Orthodoxy are much different from Islam in how they view a relationship with God. We aren’t God’s servants or subjects, but His adopted children through our faith in Jesus Christ. He doesn’t merely offer us a kingdom, but a family. A huge family of saints in Heaven, of Angels, of God Himself, and of the massive community of Christians around the world. :3

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:04 pm
by Luminesa
Ragnarheim wrote:
Negarakita wrote:Ok so having been kinda scared away from converting to Islam by Amin's latest "Slavery is good because Islam" tirade, I guess I should come here. Is there any branch of Christianity which offers that same relationship with God? Things like dhikr, the hajj, those sorts of things? I feel as though Eastern Orthodoxy is closest to what I want, but Catholicism looks good too. Especially as I do latin.


No. It's all bollocks. Follow Odin.

Is there a reason you’re here if you’re not into talking about Christianity or spirituality seriously, and you apparently hate Christians?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:05 pm
by Luminesa
Saiwania wrote:Ladies, be careful about getting into any altercation to assist or defend your man in a fight against another man. According to the laws of Leviticus, apparently the penalty for a woman grabbing another man's testicles in that situation- is to cut her hand off.

Most women getting into fights aren’t trying to grab the testicles. They might kick them there though, if they’re in danger.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:10 pm
by Negarakita
Luminesa wrote:
Ragnarheim wrote:
No. It's all bollocks. Follow Odin.

Is there a reason you’re here if you’re not into talking about Christianity or spirituality seriously, and you apparently hate Christians?

He's just an edgelord, pay him no heed
Luminesa wrote:
Saiwania wrote:Ladies, be careful about getting into any altercation to assist or defend your man in a fight against another man. According to the laws of Leviticus, apparently the penalty for a woman grabbing another man's testicles in that situation- is to cut her hand off.

Most women getting into fights aren’t trying to grab the testicles. They might kick them there though, if they’re in danger.

A grab to the testicles would 10/10 take me down in a fight, I reckon its a good strat

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:20 pm
by Nordengrund
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Negarakita wrote:Ok so having been kinda scared away from converting to Islam by Amin's latest "Slavery is good because Islam" tirade

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=441628&p=34783827#p34783827
Saiwania wrote:Ladies, be careful about getting into any altercation to assist or defend your man in a fight against another man. According to the laws of Leviticus, apparently the penalty for a woman grabbing another man's testicles in that situation- is to cut her hand off.

Christians don't follow the laws of the Old Testament.*

*Christians correct me pls if I am wrong, thank you


We don’t follow ancient Israelite civil law or Jewish law, in general, but we still follow the moral law, and pre-Mosaic law.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:58 pm
by Tarsonis
Nordengrund wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:viewtopic.php?f=20&t=441628&p=34783827#p34783827

Christians don't follow the laws of the Old Testament.*

*Christians correct me pls if I am wrong, thank you


We don’t follow ancient Israelite civil law or Jewish law, in general, but we still follow the moral law, and pre-Mosaic law.


This law would be safely under the abolished portion

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:35 pm
by Greater Cesnica
What is CDT's opinion on 'love thy neighbor'?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:37 pm
by Lord Dominator
Greater Cesnica wrote:What is CDT's opinion on 'love thy neighbor'?

Pretty good sentiment to live by I think

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:38 pm
by Greater Cesnica
Lord Dominator wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:What is CDT's opinion on 'love thy neighbor'?

Pretty good sentiment to live by I think

Does it apply to just Christians, or the whole of peaceful, law-abiding humanity?