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Roman Catholic
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Eastern Orthodox
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Non-Chalcedonian (Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East, etc.)
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1%
Anglican/Episcopalian
57
6%
Lutheran or Reformed (including Calvinist, Presbyterian, etc.)
96
10%
Methodist
16
2%
Baptist
95
10%
Other Evangelical Protestant (Pentecostal, Charismatic, etc.)
72
8%
Restorationist (LDS Movement, Jehovah's Witness, etc.)
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Other Christian
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Postby Geneviev » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:48 am

Tarsonis wrote:So in the last 24 hrs Trump has called himself “the King of Israel” and “the Chosen one.” I swear, if Trump turns out to be the actual end times Anti-Christ,...I’m gonna be so pissed off

He said that? That's actually scary.
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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:10 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:So in the last 24 hrs Trump has called himself “the King of Israel” and “the Chosen one.” I swear, if Trump turns out to be the actual end times Anti-Christ,...I’m gonna be so pissed off

For serious? Well, we can only be sure if and when he rebuilds the Temple; the Fathers say that's the sign, and that he will reign from Jerusalem. In the meantime, Trump has been doing some rather troubling things, even from a Right-Wing point of view. Almost like he's a part of the very Swamp he swore to drain.


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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:15 am

Tarsonis wrote:So in the last 24 hrs Trump has called himself “the King of Israel” and “the Chosen one.” I swear, if Trump turns out to be the actual end times Anti-Christ,...I’m gonna be so pissed off


.....What?

Source?
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Postby Hanafuridake » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:27 am

Tarsonis wrote:So in the last 24 hrs Trump has called himself “the King of Israel” and “the Chosen one.” I swear, if Trump turns out to be the actual end times Anti-Christ,...I’m gonna be so pissed off


Maybe it's just because of The Omen, but I expected the End Times to be a lot more climactic than Jesus fighting a fat orange guy.
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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:38 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:So in the last 24 hrs Trump has called himself “the King of Israel” and “the Chosen one.” I swear, if Trump turns out to be the actual end times Anti-Christ,...I’m gonna be so pissed off


.....What?

Source?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 72951.html
Hanafuridake wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:So in the last 24 hrs Trump has called himself “the King of Israel” and “the Chosen one.” I swear, if Trump turns out to be the actual end times Anti-Christ,...I’m gonna be so pissed off


Maybe it's just because of The Omen, but I expected the End Times to be a lot more climactic than Jesus fighting a fat orange guy.



Right?! That’s why I’d be pissed if he is, talk about an anti-climax
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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:43 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
.....What?

Source?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 72951.html
Hanafuridake wrote:
Maybe it's just because of The Omen, but I expected the End Times to be a lot more climactic than Jesus fighting a fat orange guy.



Right?! That’s why I’d be pissed if he is, talk about an anti-climax


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Postby Hakons » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:46 am

Kowani wrote:
Hakons wrote:From our position, limited in time and perspective, who are we to say that God does not prevent injustice? Who are we to know what grave injustice was denied existence by the Creator of existence? Countless are the injustices that have been abolished, the evil that was prevented to form, and the saints that have done the will of God to prevent wrongdoing, all by the providence of our all-knowing omnipotent God!

This is a terrible argument, regardless of the rhetoric you pile on.


Didn't know you got into literary critique. In a world of cynicism, nihilism, summary, and constant simplification, rhetoric can be quite beautiful. I see that I was somewhat rhetorical, but I also believe those statements, so the words were not written for rhetorical effect.

It's not a terrible argument. Given that our perception is quite limited in the world, it's impossible and downright false to say God doesn't prevent injustice. If God prevents injustice from happening to begin with, there's no injustice that one will see and comprehend. If God prevents injustice in a place you don't hear about through your news sources or personal contacts, that's still God preventing injustice (regardless if you were aware of the act). To be forthwith, God prevents injustice clearly, in plain view, every day, in the simple actions of the faithful combating injustice or creating justice out of their devotion to Him.

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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:48 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 72951.html


Right?! That’s why I’d be pissed if he is, talk about an anti-climax


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Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:48 am

Hanafuridake wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:So in the last 24 hrs Trump has called himself “the King of Israel” and “the Chosen one.” I swear, if Trump turns out to be the actual end times Anti-Christ,...I’m gonna be so pissed off


Maybe it's just because of The Omen, but I expected the End Times to be a lot more climactic than Jesus fighting a fat orange guy.

Yeah tbh I figured the Antichrist would at least be physically fit.
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:50 am

In other news: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/satan ... -august-17

Canada has hosted its first Black Mass in its history...

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Postby Benuty » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:55 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:In other news: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/satan ... -august-17

Canada has hosted its first Black Mass in its history...

Well that is kind of gross.
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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:12 am

Benuty wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:In other news: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/satan ... -august-17

Canada has hosted its first Black Mass in its history...

Well that is kind of gross.

metal heads are adorable
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Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
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Postby Benuty » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:26 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Benuty wrote:Well that is kind of gross.

metal heads are adorable

The third part of the posters announcements is hilarious. "While we are holding an unbaptism, and black mass do not forget to bring socks for the homeless" lol. I get the desire to be edgy and make a statement, but you can do without doing that, hell just be an atheist. I don't expect former Muslims turned Christians to enact a mockery of their religions most vital elements. I mean sure if you want to make a ritual commemorating Muhammad's death go right ahead, and drink poison, but it isn't advisable.
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Postby Lower Nubia » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:35 pm

Tarsonis wrote:So in the last 24 hrs Trump has called himself “the King of Israel” and “the Chosen one.” I swear, if Trump turns out to be the actual end times Anti-Christ,...I’m gonna be so pissed off


Not the Orange. It makes sense that the Anti-Christ is a Presbyterian but fake tan too?
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Postby Benuty » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:36 pm

Lower Nubia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:So in the last 24 hrs Trump has called himself “the King of Israel” and “the Chosen one.” I swear, if Trump turns out to be the actual end times Anti-Christ,...I’m gonna be so pissed off


Not the Orange. It makes sense that the Anti-Christ is a Presbyterian but fake tan too?

Oof.
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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:51 pm

Lower Nubia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:So in the last 24 hrs Trump has called himself “the King of Israel” and “the Chosen one.” I swear, if Trump turns out to be the actual end times Anti-Christ,...I’m gonna be so pissed off


Not the Orange. It makes sense that the Anti-Christ is a Presbyterian but fake tan too?


Also makes sense that he’d be backed by Evangelicals
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Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
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Postby Lower Nubia » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:06 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Lower Nubia wrote:
Not the Orange. It makes sense that the Anti-Christ is a Presbyterian but fake tan too?


Also makes sense that he’d be backed by Evangelicals


Pre-millennialist dispensationalists who love the rapture idea and that the US will fight the Anti-Christ.

I perversely hope they do support the Anti-Christ because it would be so cathartic.
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Postby East Ustya » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:07 pm

Lower Nubia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Also makes sense that he’d be backed by Evangelicals


Pre-millennialist dispensationalists who love the rapture idea and that the US will fight the Anti-Christ.

I perversely hope they do support the Anti-Christ because it would be so cathartic.

Makes sense for the antichrist to rule from DC though.
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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:16 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Benuty wrote:Well that is kind of gross.

metal heads are adorable


Oh, they're not metal heads (well, maybe not). They're atheistic Satanists, ie atheists that haven't given up their bitterness towards Christianity.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:16 pm

East Ustya wrote:
Lower Nubia wrote:
Pre-millennialist dispensationalists who love the rapture idea and that the US will fight the Anti-Christ.

I perversely hope they do support the Anti-Christ because it would be so cathartic.

Makes sense for the antichrist to rule from DC though.

That gives him way too much starting power.
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Postby Lower Nubia » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:20 pm

Kowani wrote:
East Ustya wrote:Makes sense for the antichrist to rule from DC though.

That gives him way too much starting power.


He needs gradual progression so that his skill matches the difficulty of the level.
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Postby East Ustya » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:37 pm

Kowani wrote:
East Ustya wrote:Makes sense for the antichrist to rule from DC though.

That gives him way too much starting power.

Just saying DC is like Pagan Rome.
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Postby Luminesa » Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:08 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:In other news: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/satan ... -august-17

Canada has hosted its first Black Mass in its history...

> Satanic unbaptism.
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Postby Minachia » Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:23 pm

East Ustya wrote:
Lower Nubia wrote:
Pre-millennialist dispensationalists who love the rapture idea and that the US will fight the Anti-Christ.

I perversely hope they do support the Anti-Christ because it would be so cathartic.

Makes sense for the antichrist to rule from DC though.

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Postby Bienenhalde » Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:46 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:In other news: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/satan ... -august-17

Canada has hosted its first Black Mass in its history...


If the government can outlaw hate groups, why can't they outlaw Satanism? Sounds like a hate group to me.

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