The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15

[Australian rePublic]

I'm not trying to mock God. I am asking a legitimate question. If my intent was to mock God, then there are far easier methods of doing so. However, I will not be implementing any of these methods, because my intent isn't to mock God

I'm not saying you are?

I'm saying that those who deserve justice will receive it, even if it's not on this side of things.

Fair enough. Sorry for the misinterpretation

[Narland]

On a lighter note, I want everyone to know I am considering undergoing the process of ordination for the Episcopalian priesthood. Now obviously this will be a several years process in the making due to current circumstances, but nevertheless, I feel called to it.

I am happy for you, and will pray that God make your path clear.

[Australian rePublic]

I'm not trying to mock God. I am asking a legitimate question. If my intent was to mock God, then there are far easier methods of doing so. However, I will not be implementing any of these methods, because my intent isn't to mock God

I'm not saying you are?

I'm saying that those who deserve justice will receive it, even if it's not on this side of things.

But then again, I don't know, I'm after justoce, not vengeance. Where do we draw the line?

[Narland]

I'm not saying you are?

I'm saying that those who deserve justice will receive it, even if it's not on this side of things.

But then again, I don't know, I'm after justoce, not vengeance. Where do we draw the line?

I think Aquinas' Summa Theologia Part II, Questions 57 - 122 cover Justice pretty well. Q. 108 deals specifically with Vengeance.

[Salus Maior]

I'm not saying you are?

I'm saying that those who deserve justice will receive it, even if it's not on this side of things.

But then again, I don't know, I'm after justoce, not vengeance. Where do we draw the line?

What are you classifying as justice?

[Kowani]

But then again, I don't know, I'm after justoce, not vengeance. Where do we draw the line?

What are you classifying as justice?

How does one classify justice?

[Bear Stearns]

I hate to open this can of worms...but do you guys consider Mormons Christians?

[Jack Thomas Lang]

I hate to open this can of worms...but do you guys consider Mormons Christians?

I really want to, because I'm close friends with a Mormon (more than one, my family has a positive history with Mormons), but their theology is just crazy. They have different levels of an afterlife or something? I remember that devout Mormons go to a paradise equivalent, non-Mormons go to another fallen world (basically IRL but one more time) and apostates go to hell.

[Benuty]

I hate to open this can of worms...but do you guys consider Mormons Christians?

I really want to, because I'm close friends with a Mormon (more than one, my family has a positive history with Mormons), but their theology is just crazy. They have different levels of an afterlife or something? I remember that devout Mormons go to a paradise equivalent, non-Mormons go to another fallen world (basically IRL but one more time) and apostates go to hell.

To clarify, they have three levels of heaven. The first you actually get to meet God, and Jesus while the second you only get to interact with Jesus. The third level has angelic messengers who attend to you on a slightly better version of the earth until its time to ascend to the second level of heaven. Their version of hell is that only the truly, and utterly despicably irredeemable go to what they consider "the outer darkness".

[Benuty]

I hate to open this can of worms...but do you guys consider Mormons Christians?

While I appreciate universalism the way they go about it is a bit too much for my tastes.

[Kowani]

I hate to open this can of worms...but do you guys consider Mormons Christians?

Considering they have another prophet- a literal con man (I know I’m the edgy atheist, but Jesus was at the very least a genuine believer in what he preached-and the message is good)..I would say no.

[Tarsonis]

I hate to open this can of worms...but do you guys consider Mormons Christians?

Unfortunately, they deny the Trinity as understood by the councils of Chalcedon and Nicea, which means by Catholic standards they aren’t Christians.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

I hate to open this can of worms...but do you guys consider Mormons Christians?

Unfortunately, they deny the Trinity as understood by the councils of Chalcedon and Nicea, which means by Catholic standards they aren’t Christians.

Not their fault it’s an ad-hoc excuse for the Pauline epistles.

[Kowani]

I hate to open this can of worms...but do you guys consider Mormons Christians?

Unfortunately, they deny the Trinity as understood by the councils of Chalcedon and Nicea, which means by Catholic standards they aren’t Christians.

Wait, aren’t non-Chalcedonian Christians a thing in Ethiopia?

[State of Turelisa]

What about the people who were falsly imprisoned for crimes they haven't comitted (either accidently or through corruption?) Isn't this where God should step in? Why isn't He?

I was acquainted with a man who thought this way. In his hedonistic youth, he passed out in a stupor in a drugs den, which subsequently caught fire; the fire service rescued him, and, since he was the only person found there, was charged with arson, convicted and imprisoned for five years. After leaving prison, having become 'clean' inside, he met and fell in love with a woman. He's now a married man, and works hard to provide for his wife and daughter, and never takes drugs.

During a discussion about religion with him and mutual friends, he mentioned his past, adducing his false conviction for his staunch atheism. 'Where was God when I stood in the dock, and the judge sent me to gaol for a crime I didn't commit?' he railed. 'Have you ever thought that, if you were not in God's grace,' I replied,' you would have died in the fire. You would not have subsequently gone to prison where you were completely reformed. You would not be a father now.'

[United Muscovite Nations]

Unfortunately, they deny the Trinity as understood by the councils of Chalcedon and Nicea, which means by Catholic standards they aren’t Christians.

Wait, aren’t non-Chalcedonian Christians a thing in Ethiopia?

Yeah, not sure why he'd mention Chalcedon, there are a fair number of non-Chalcedonian Christians.

[Kowani]

Wait, aren’t non-Chalcedonian Christians a thing in Ethiopia?

Yeah, not sure why he'd mention Chalcedon, there are a fair number of non-Chalcedonian Christians.

Oh, good. I thought my memory was completely failing me.

[Tarsonis]

Unfortunately, they deny the Trinity as understood by the councils of Chalcedon and Nicea, which means by Catholic standards they aren’t Christians.

Wait, aren’t non-Chalcedonian Christians a thing in Ethiopia?

Yes but non chalcedonians disagree on how the dual natures of Christ manifest, while agreeing by that Christ has shared nature with the Father and the Holy Spirit.


Mormons reject the concept entirely.

[Nea Byzantia]

I hate to open this can of worms...but do you guys consider Mormons Christians?

Nope. They heretics.

[Kowani]

Wait, aren’t non-Chalcedonian Christians a thing in Ethiopia?

Yes but non chalcedonians disagree on how the dual natures of Christ manifest, while agreeing by that Christ has shared nature with the Father and the Holy Spirit.


Mormons reject the concept entirely.

Ahh, I see. Thank you.

[Nea Byzantia]

Wait, aren’t non-Chalcedonian Christians a thing in Ethiopia?

Yeah, not sure why he'd mention Chalcedon, there are a fair number of non-Chalcedonian Christians.

He said by "Catholic" standards... as in the standards of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church (meaning the Eastern Orthodox). So bringing up Chalcedon is both valid and relevant.

[Tarsonis]

Yeah, not sure why he'd mention Chalcedon, there are a fair number of non-Chalcedonian Christians.

He said by "Catholic" standards... as in the standards of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church (meaning the Eastern Orthodox).

Adorable schismatic is adorable

[Tarsonis]

So in the last 24 hrs Trump has called himself “the King of Israel” and “the Chosen one.” I swear, if Trump turns out to be the actual end times Anti-Christ,...I’m gonna be so pissed off

[Pacomia]

So in the last 24 hrs Trump has called himself “the King of Israel” and “the Chosen one.” I swear, if Trump turns out to be the actual end times Anti-Christ,...I’m gonna be so pissed off

Nah man he’s just a saint going off playing practical jokes on them mortals lmao

[Nea Byzantia]

So in the last 24 hrs Trump has called himself “the King of Israel” and “the Chosen one.” I swear, if Trump turns out to be the actual end times Anti-Christ,...I’m gonna be so pissed off

For serious? Well, we can only be sure if and when he rebuilds the Temple; the Fathers say that's the sign, and that he will reign from Jerusalem. In the meantime, Trump has been doing some rather troubling things, even from a Right-Wing point of view. Almost like he's a part of the very Swamp he swore to drain.