The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15

[United Massachusetts]

ever heard of liberation theology ?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_theology

^ This. The Catholic Church's doctrines are actually quite progressive.

[Salus Maior]

I'm guessing you didn't actually say "bullshit" xD

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/edbbe049-2 ... 3206cbec1c

What age group do you teach? Cause I've gotten hate mail from parents while I was working in a secular childcare environment for much less. I imagine a Christian school parents are even more so.

[Republic of the Northern Star]

For my 2000th post...

https://news.gallup.com/poll/203747/mis ... state.aspx

(Image)

https://www.270towin.com/2016_Election/

(Image)

I like Christian cases for liberalism. I really do. But I often feel obligated to refute them when they seem to fly in the face of the broader effects of religion. Invoking the Bible seems so hollow; it contradicts itself, let alone much of modern conservatism OR liberalism, depending upon how you read it. Perhaps it's no coincidence that messages about helping the poor often get met with "he who does not work, neither shall he eat," etc.

I look at the time and effort and resources Christian liberals pour into defending how Christianity can be liberal, or liberalism can be Christian, and I just wonder if it's all useless; or counter-productive; to liberal causes. By legitimizing something that was based on ancient superstitions in the first place, might that be why it's more useful to conservatism (whose supposed definition is conserving tradition) than to liberalism?

So how else can Christianity be defined, if not by its apparent effects?

Christianity cant be liberal, but christians can be liberal.

[Salus Maior]

Unfortunately yes. *takes a long drink*

[Ethel mermania]

For my 2000th post...

https://news.gallup.com/poll/203747/mis ... state.aspx

(Image)

https://www.270towin.com/2016_Election/

(Image)

I like Christian cases for liberalism. I really do. But I often feel obligated to refute them when they seem to fly in the face of the broader effects of religion. Invoking the Bible seems so hollow; it contradicts itself, let alone much of modern conservatism OR liberalism, depending upon how you read it. Perhaps it's no coincidence that messages about helping the poor often get met with "he who does not work, neither shall he eat," etc.

I look at the time and effort and resources Christian liberals pour into defending how Christianity can be liberal, or liberalism can be Christian, and I just wonder if it's all useless; or counter-productive; to liberal causes. By legitimizing something that was based on ancient superstitions in the first place, might that be why it's more useful to conservatism (whose supposed definition is conserving tradition) than to liberalism?

So how else can Christianity be defined, if not by its apparent effects?

Christianity cant be liberal, but christians can be liberal.

Your third post for this kind of ignorance ?

[Conserative Morality]

Yes.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/edbbe049-2 ... 3206cbec1c

What age group do you teach? Cause I've gotten hate mail from parents while I was working in a secular childcare environment for much less. I imagine a Christian school parents are even more so.

Really? What did you do?

[Salus Maior]

What age group do you teach? Cause I've gotten hate mail from parents while I was working in a secular childcare environment for much less. I imagine a Christian school parents are even more so.

Really? What did you do?

I said "crap".

[Erythrean Thebes]

I just have to say that the Bible does not contradict itself, only if you read and use it wrong. It is not true that the Bible contradicts itself as an instruction to mankind, because you are not supposed to take the various injunctions, instructions, or reprimands which God gave to figures in the Bible as injunctions or instructions to yourself personally, as an ordinary reader. Indeed how could you, or in what way would you? I don't believe you possibly could. It IS true that God will act or speak in one manner at points in the Bible, and then act or speak in a different or opposite manner at another point. In what way do you think this is contradictory? God can do whatever he wants to anyone or anything with absolute impunity. Not only is that aspect of the relationship readily apparent from the whole content of the Bible, it is also readily justified by the relationship of man to God, the nature and quality of which is illustrated in the Book of Genesis. Does anyone who reads Genesis really feel that God's arbitrary and omnipotent rulership over mankind is not justified?

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Really? What did you do?

I said "crap".

[Sovaal]

Is there such thing as 'liberal Christianity'?
Is there an end to NSG summer?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Why not just post this in the CDT? No need for their to be a whole new thread.

[Ethel mermania]

Why not just post this in the CDT? No need for their to be a whole new thread.

Well for one thing, I wouldn’t post there. Two its a general topic not just related to that thread.

[Minzerland II]

Yes, there is such a thing as Liberal Christianity, though I have reservations about it and see it as at odds with Christianity.

ever heard of liberation theology ?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_theology

*Shivers* What an abomination.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

*Shivers* What an abomination.

Any philosophy that wants to make up its own rules about an already established religion would he an abomination.

[Aleckandor]

Unfortunately yes. *takes a long drink*

*Also Takes A Long Drink*

[Fartsniffage]

How are people defining liberal in this thread?

[Conserative Morality]

How are people defining liberal in this thread?

Does it matter? I've seen Christianity combined with every ideology under the sun, and some better left in darkness too.

[Minzerland II]

*Shivers* What an abomination.

Any philosophy that wants to make up its own rules about an already established religion would he an abomination.

I take more issue with Liberation Theology because, as (at the time) Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger put it, ‘their effective omission of the idea of God...’ The Pope Emeritus then goes onto explains what he means and such. Tbh, I think he his assessment of Liberation Theology is on point.

[Geneviev]

It depends on how you define Christianity, but sure, it exists.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Any philosophy that wants to make up its own rules about an already established religion would he an abomination.

I take more issue with Liberation Theology because, as (at the time) Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger put it, ‘their effective omission of the idea of God...’ The Pope Emeritus then goes onto explains what he means and such. Tbh, I think he his assessment of Liberation Theology is on point.

>mhms thoughtfully<
I was more talking about liberal interpretations of a religion that's been established for 1000s of years. Some yoblos from 2018 come and say "but I don't like that, I wanna disobey Allah" and make up their own b.s. 'rulings'.

[Minzerland II]

How are people defining liberal in this thread?

I really just tend to lump together Progressive, Liberal and Modernist variations. I really shouldn’t, but there you go.

[Kustonia]

Christianity is not tied to a political doctrine. It is absurd to say that Liberalism is a perfect match for Christianity too. Liberals support homosexuality and abortion which is where Liberalism has it's main support base. Christian doctrine opposes both of those.

[Minzerland II]

I take more issue with Liberation Theology because, as (at the time) Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger put it, ‘their effective omission of the idea of God...’ The Pope Emeritus then goes onto explains what he means and such. Tbh, I think he his assessment of Liberation Theology is on point.

>mhms thoughtfully<
I was more talking about liberal interpretations of a religion that's been established for 1000s of years. Some yoblos from 2018 come and say "but I don't like that, I wanna disobey Allah" and make up their own b.s. 'rulings'.

Well, yes, that is bad too, but I wouldn’t confine that to Liberal Christians only.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

>mhms thoughtfully<
I was more talking about liberal interpretations of a religion that's been established for 1000s of years. Some yoblos from 2018 come and say "but I don't like that, I wanna disobey Allah" and make up their own b.s. 'rulings'.

Well, yes, that is bad too, but I wouldn’t confine that to Liberal Christians only.

Oh of course, I agree with you, that's across all religious groups.