Possibility for Second American Civil War

[Dahon]

Either a world both on the mend and thoroughly democratic -- or nothing, as aliens bombard us with meteors rather than try and reason with us some time ago.

When did you become a Posadist

I was never and will never be a goddamn commie fuckstick, Therm -- but if push comes to shove, I prefer mass extinction to prevent us from making any more mistakes than letting us make the mistakes that kill us all.

[Olerand]

Is this me? Oh I know who's far-right and who's not. The people I call far-right are far-right. There are plenty of rightists on here (mostly British), and some center-rightists (mostly German or French). But the Americans are, routinely, far-right.

Oh yeah, like back when we elected President Obama.

Oh yeah, like back when we elected President Obama.

Who was still pretty center right

Merci.

In Europe, Obama is the ALDE (Alliance of Liberals and Democrats of Europe), not the PES (Party of European Socialists).

[United Dependencies]

A second American civil war? Unlikely

More probable is that our politics continues to be polarized and divided and the rhetoric grows ever sharper. This may lead to occasional violent outbursts as lone individuals or small groups decide to act on the rhetoric.

Look for more spree shootings, vehicle ramming attacks, and potential bombings. People may also get more specific in their targets besides schools and public areas. For instance, we might see more abortion clinic bombings, church bombings/shootings, or even assassinations of certain political figures.

[Olerand]

Is this me? Oh I know who's far-right and who's not. The people I call far-right are far-right. There are plenty of rightists on here (mostly British), and some center-rightists (mostly German or French). But the Americans are, routinely, far-right.

Do you mean Americans in general, or just the ones you met? Because we have lots of people with lots of varying political opinions.

No, not all Americans in general are far-right. Only Republicans. Democrats I would classify as center-right, or center if they're particularly social-liberal. EDIT: Social-liberal like Tony Blair, as in with some workers' rights and whatever; not what Americans call social issues, which are societal.
As a fun fact, that's why the social democrats are called social democrats. Has nothing to do with the American social.

There's now a rise of some center-leftists recently, but their movement is rich in rhetoric... and poor in absolutely everything else, from history, to policy, to ideology, to literature etc.

[Illegal Planets]

A second American civil war? Unlikely

More probable is that our politics continues to be polarized and divided and the rhetoric grows ever sharper. This may lead to occasional violent outbursts as lone individuals or small groups decide to act on the rhetoric.

Look for more spree shootings, vehicle ramming attacks, and potential bombings. People may also get more specific in their targets besides schools and public areas. For instance, we might see more abortion clinic bombings, church bombings/shootings, or even assassinations of certain political figures.

This, honestly. And the rhetoric is already pretty sharp in the more polarized corners of the internet.

[Illegal Planets]

Do you mean Americans in general, or just the ones you met? Because we have lots of people with lots of varying political opinions.

No, not all Americans in general are far-right. Only Republicans. Democrats I would classify as center-right, or center if they're particularly social-liberal.

There's now a rise of some center-leftists recently, but their movement is rich in rhetoric... and poor in absolutely everything else, from history, to policy, to ideology, to literature etc.

Republicans are definitely not far right here, at least not in a generalized sense. Hence the rise of the alt-right, which attracts mainly young males and deviates from traditional boomer-tier conservative points.

[Thermodolia]

A second American civil war? Unlikely

More probable is that our politics continues to be polarized and divided and the rhetoric grows ever sharper. This may lead to occasional violent outbursts as lone individuals or small groups decide to act on the rhetoric.

Look for more spree shootings, vehicle ramming attacks, and potential bombings. People may also get more specific in their targets besides schools and public areas. For instance, we might see more abortion clinic bombings, church bombings/shootings, or even assassinations of certain political figures.

So the 60s?

[Chernoslavia]

Do you mean Americans in general, or just the ones you met? Because we have lots of people with lots of varying political opinions.

No, not all Americans in general are far-right. Only Republicans. Democrats I would classify as center-right, or center if they're particularly social-liberal. EDIT: Social-liberal like Tony Blair, as in with some workers' rights and whatever; not what Americans call social issues, which are societal.
As a fun fact, that's why the social democrats are called social democrats. Has nothing to do with the American social.

There's now a rise of some center-leftists recently, but their movement is rich in rhetoric... and poor in absolutely everything else, from history, to policy, to ideology, to literature etc.

I’m certain not all republicans are far-right.

[Thermodolia]

When did you become a Posadist

I was never and will never be a goddamn commie fuckstick, Therm -- but if push comes to shove, I prefer mass extinction to prevent us from making any more mistakes than letting us make the mistakes that kill us all.

So a posadist

[United Dependencies]

A second American civil war? Unlikely

More probable is that our politics continues to be polarized and divided and the rhetoric grows ever sharper. This may lead to occasional violent outbursts as lone individuals or small groups decide to act on the rhetoric.

Look for more spree shootings, vehicle ramming attacks, and potential bombings. People may also get more specific in their targets besides schools and public areas. For instance, we might see more abortion clinic bombings, church bombings/shootings, or even assassinations of certain political figures.

So the 60s?

On the balance, culture(and race) seems to be the greater cause of division right now than economics. The similarities are certainly there.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

And the worst.

You’ll never have to worry about any of that from me or from the people I’ll be fighting alongside. Just saying.

You can say that about yourself, but you can't say that from every single person in your creed.

Your creed will rape people, just like all the other forces in this war.

It's been this way since Roman empire, it's not going to change now for this war.

[Olerand]

No, not all Americans in general are far-right. Only Republicans. Democrats I would classify as center-right, or center if they're particularly social-liberal.

There's now a rise of some center-leftists recently, but their movement is rich in rhetoric... and poor in absolutely everything else, from history, to policy, to ideology, to literature etc.

Republicans are definitely not far right here, at least not in a generalized sense. Hence the rise of the alt-right, which attracts mainly young males and deviates from traditional boomer-tier conservative points.

I'm aware. I don't use America's uniquely biased metrics because I refuse to normalize far-right behavior. As I already said, the far-right, like the far-left, is large enough to include a variety of groups. Republicans, the identitaires, Evangelicals, as well as the Muslim Brothers all share this tent. The far-left can include the Antifa, Trotskyists, and what we term in France the Islamo-gauchistes together too.

The political spectrum is long, and every centimeter of it is a universe of its own.

No, not all Americans in general are far-right. Only Republicans. Democrats I would classify as center-right, or center if they're particularly social-liberal. EDIT: Social-liberal like Tony Blair, as in with some workers' rights and whatever; not what Americans call social issues, which are societal.
As a fun fact, that's why the social democrats are called social democrats. Has nothing to do with the American social.

There's now a rise of some center-leftists recently, but their movement is rich in rhetoric... and poor in absolutely everything else, from history, to policy, to ideology, to literature etc.

I’m certain not all republicans are far-right.

... George Bush Sr. He's dying.

[Thermodolia]

You’ll never have to worry about any of that from me or from the people I’ll be fighting alongside. Just saying.

You can say that about yourself, but you can't say that from every single person in your creed.

Your creed will rape people, just like all the other forces in this war.

It's been this way since Roman empire, it's not going to change now for this war.

Shit happens. What did you expect a civil war to be like? Rainbows and unicorns? You’re barking up the wrong tree, the majority of the people willing to stay and fight aren’t going to care about shit like that. It’s unfortunate but it’s the truth

[Thermodolia]

Republicans are definitely not far right here, at least not in a generalized sense. Hence the rise of the alt-right, which attracts mainly young males and deviates from traditional boomer-tier conservative points.

I'm aware. I don't use America's uniquely biased metrics because I refuse to normalize far-right behavior. As I already said, the far-right, like the far-left, is large enough to include a variety of groups. Republicans, the identitaires, Evangelicals, as well as the Muslim Brothers all share this tent. The far-left can include the Antifa, Trotskyists, and what we term in France the Islamo-gauchistes together too.

The political spectrum is long, and every centimeter of it is a universe of its own.

I’m certain not all republicans are far-right.

... George Bush Sr. He's dying.

And the Romney republicans

[Olerand]

I'm aware. I don't use America's uniquely biased metrics because I refuse to normalize far-right behavior. As I already said, the far-right, like the far-left, is large enough to include a variety of groups. Republicans, the identitaires, Evangelicals, as well as the Muslim Brothers all share this tent. The far-left can include the Antifa, Trotskyists, and what we term in France the Islamo-gauchistes together too.

The political spectrum is long, and every centimeter of it is a universe of its own.


... George Bush Sr. He's dying.

And the Romney republicans

Romeny's a fake. He's, what's the term, a flip-flopper? And even then, Mr.47% is nowhere near the center. Perhaps he's not far-right, but he's at best on the hard right.

[The Parkus Empire]

Do you mean Americans in general, or just the ones you met? Because we have lots of people with lots of varying political opinions.

No, not all Americans in general are far-right. Only Republicans. Democrats I would classify as center-right, or center if they're particularly social-liberal. EDIT: Social-liberal like Tony Blair, as in with some workers' rights and whatever; not what Americans call social issues, which are societal.
As a fun fact, that's why the social democrats are called social democrats. Has nothing to do with the American social.

There's now a rise of some center-leftists recently, but their movement is rich in rhetoric... and poor in absolutely everything else, from history, to policy, to ideology, to literature etc.

Democrats are radicals and have been since Woodrow Wilson.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radicalism_(historical)

[Illegal Planets]

Republicans are definitely not far right here, at least not in a generalized sense. Hence the rise of the alt-right, which attracts mainly young males and deviates from traditional boomer-tier conservative points.

I'm aware. I don't use America's uniquely biased metrics because I refuse to normalize far-right behavior. As I already said, the far-right, like the far-left, is large enough to include a variety of groups. Republicans, the identitaires, Evangelicals, as well as the Muslim Brothers all share this tent. The far-left can include the Antifa, Trotskyists, and what we term in France Islamo-gauchiste together too.

The political spectrum is long, and every centimeter of it is a universe of its own.

Has nothing to do with normalizing it. This is coming from the same person who thought suppression of speech in a broad sense might be a good idea, so it's really no surprise that you would refuse to speak in terms of the reality of the current situation. I mean, you described Republicans as far-right, and that is pretty outrageous, and i've already begun to doubt whether or not you really know what you are talking about when addressing the political climate of America. If that's the case, my advice would be to refrain, just as I refrain from making sweeping statements of French politics, which I know nothing about. Or if you must persist, at least do your homework.

[United Dependencies]

Democrats are radicals and have been since Woodrow Wilson.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radicalism_(historical)

What exactly am I supposed to be looking at on your link?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

You can say that about yourself, but you can't say that from every single person in your creed.

Your creed will rape people, just like all the other forces in this war.

It's been this way since Roman empire, it's not going to change now for this war.

Shit happens. What did you expect a civil war to be like? Rainbows and unicorns? You’re barking up the wrong tree, the majority of the people willing to stay and fight aren’t going to care about shit like that. It’s unfortunate but it’s the truth

Exactly. I don't know how Chernoslavia thought that there side would magicly not rape anyone.

[Chernoslavia]

Shit happens. What did you expect a civil war to be like? Rainbows and unicorns? You’re barking up the wrong tree, the majority of the people willing to stay and fight aren’t going to care about shit like that. It’s unfortunate but it’s the truth

Exactly. I don't know how Chernoslavia thought that there side would magicly not rape anyone.

You don’t know shit about me or my group.

[Olerand]

No, not all Americans in general are far-right. Only Republicans. Democrats I would classify as center-right, or center if they're particularly social-liberal. EDIT: Social-liberal like Tony Blair, as in with some workers' rights and whatever; not what Americans call social issues, which are societal.
As a fun fact, that's why the social democrats are called social democrats. Has nothing to do with the American social.

There's now a rise of some center-leftists recently, but their movement is rich in rhetoric... and poor in absolutely everything else, from history, to policy, to ideology, to literature etc.

Democrats are radicals and have been since Woodrow Wilson.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radicalism_(historical)

... Huh? We have a radical party in France. They're of the center too. Oldest party in France, they recently merged with the Radicals of the Left who split in the 1970s but... it was irrelevant.
Anyway, "left-wing" Democrats could very comfortably fit in Macron's party (just look at the physical and psychosexual rapture they experienced when he graced them with his presence), or if they are particularly left, in the MoDem. Centrist (so center-right) Democrats would feel more comfortable in the UDI; and what's left of the right-wing Democrats can find their place in Agir.

France's political environment is very diverse. We can accommodate almost every other developed country's politics somewhere in our spectrum. Well, except for the Republicans in America.

[Washington Resistance Army]

And the Romney republicans

Romeny's a fake. He's, what's the term, a flip-flopper? And even then, Mr.47% is nowhere near the center. Perhaps he's not far-right, but he's at best on the hard right.

Romney is about as hard right as Macron is a Maoist lol, he's a vaguely right wing conservative who flip flops a lot and nothing more.

[Olerand]

Romeny's a fake. He's, what's the term, a flip-flopper? And even then, Mr.47% is nowhere near the center. Perhaps he's not far-right, but he's at best on the hard right.

Romney is about as hard right as Macron is a Maoist lol, he's a vaguely right wing conservative who flip flops a lot and nothing more.

Again, I'm not using America's metrics; I won't normalize the far-right. In France, he would be hard-right. In Anglo-Saxon countries... Well, to be fair, maybe not hard right, just right-wing. Certainly not touching the center.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Romney is about as hard right as Macron is a Maoist lol, he's a vaguely right wing conservative who flip flops a lot and nothing more.

Again, I'm not using America's metrics; I won't normalize the far-right. In France

It doesn't matter what he would be in France because we aren't France. Not using America's metrics when discussing America's politics makes your statements inherently worthless.

[United Dependencies]

Again, I'm not using America's metrics; I won't normalize the far-right. In France

It doesn't matter what he would be in France because we aren't France. Not using America's metrics when discussing America's politics makes your statements inherently worthless.

Inherently worthless?

I can certainly understand that putting the US Republican party on the French political spectrum is annoying, but I would hardly call it impossible to understand what someone means so long as they are being clear with their definitions.