Possibility for Second American Civil War

[Internationalist Bastard]

What’s happening in 25 years?

The workers revolution.

Neat

[Illegal Planets]

Well then 30% of America are uneducated on what exactly is going on. There won't be another American civil war, not for the next 25 years at least.

Well the thing is, regular people don't want a civil war. If someone says otherwise, I would think that they are at least a little unhinged. Things haven't gone that far yet. This whole beef is really between radicals on the left and right that have come into the spotlight since the 2016 election, although there is significant polarization happening for the folks in between.

[Chernoslavia]

Right, war ain’t sunshine and roses but as some guy has said here, war brings the best out of people.

One of my grandfathers fought in Korea, and one fought in Vietnam. I think they would disagree with the latter part of that statement.

I am not saying that war will be good nor am I advocating for it, I am merely saying that it’d bring out the best (and I guess the worse) in people.

[The Lone Alliance]

It's honestly approaching the level of psychosis, this breakneck speed that things are evolving and changing and evolving and changing again.

"Approaching"? It's already psychotic.

I mean... the entire meme economy, when combined with the Youtube grift economy and far right propagandists looking for a base to radicalize, it has created a juggernaut of self-fueled insanity and aggression. The way in which these people rile each other and their followers up with the most mundane garbage, and craft these apocalyptic grand narratives about the looming horrors of "SJWs" and feminism, it's like religious fundamentalism. It's a doomsday cult for "skeptics".

Yes it's only the right wingers who are psychotic... all the people crying that the US is literally a Nazi regime are all perfectly sane. :nod:

Reality you can switch a few words around and your statement could also apply to some of the people on the other side just as easily.

[Internationalist Bastard]

One of my grandfathers fought in Korea, and one fought in Vietnam. I think they would disagree with the latter part of that statement.

I am not saying that war will be good nor am I advocating for it, I am merely saying that it’d bring out the best (and I guess the worse) in people.

It’ll make a handful of people better and the rest would be worse

[Dahon]

Well then 30% of America are uneducated on what exactly is going on. There won't be another American civil war, not for the next 25 years at least.

What’s happening in 25 years?

Either a world both on the mend and thoroughly democratic -- or nothing, as aliens bombard us with meteors rather than try and reason with us some time ago.

[Dahon]

Well then 30% of America are uneducated on what exactly is going on. There won't be another American civil war, not for the next 25 years at least.

What’s happening in 25 years?

Either a world both on the mend and thoroughly democratic -- or nothing, as aliens bombard us with meteors rather than try and reason with us some time ago.

[Chernoslavia]

Right, war ain’t sunshine and roses but as some guy has said here, war brings the best out of people.

And the worst.

You’ll never have to worry about any of that from me or from the people I’ll be fighting alongside. Just saying.

[Internationalist Bastard]

And the worst.

You’ll never have to worry about any of that from me or from the people I’ll be fighting alongside. Just saying.

From you sure
Never say the people you’re with won’t rape
Theirs always rapists

[Illegal Planets]

"Approaching"? It's already psychotic.

I mean... the entire meme economy, when combined with the Youtube Uni grift economy and far right progressive propagandists looking for a base to radicalize, it has created a juggernaut of self-fueled insanity and aggression. The way in which these people rile each other and their followers up with the most mundane garbage, and craft these apocalyptic grand narratives about the looming horrors of "SJWs" nazis and feminism fascism, it's like religious fundamentalism. It's a doomsday cult for "skeptics" leftists.

Yes it's only the right wingers who are psychotic... all the people crying that the US is literally a Nazi regime are all perfectly sane. :nod:

Reality you can switch a few words around and your statement could also apply to some of the people on the other side just as easily.

There you go

[The Lone Alliance]

Well then 30% of America are uneducated on what exactly is going on. There won't be another American civil war, not for the next 25 years at least.

Well the thing is, regular people don't want a civil war. If someone says otherwise, I would think that they are at least a little unhinged. Things haven't gone that far yet. This whole beef is really between radicals on the left and right that have come into the spotlight since the 2016 election, although there is significant polarization happening for the folks in between.

I can't even be sure if the left radicals are really leftist, they seem to be running on a purely reactionary mindset where they're only outraged by what the media tells them to be outraged over.

[Chernoslavia]

"Approaching"? It's already psychotic.

I mean... the entire meme economy, when combined with the Youtube grift economy and far right propagandists looking for a base to radicalize, it has created a juggernaut of self-fueled insanity and aggression. The way in which these people rile each other and their followers up with the most mundane garbage, and craft these apocalyptic grand narratives about the looming horrors of "SJWs" and feminism, it's like religious fundamentalism. It's a doomsday cult for "skeptics".

Yes it's only the right wingers who are psychotic... all the people crying that the US is literally a Nazi regime are all perfectly sane. :nod:

Reality you can switch a few words around and your statement could also apply to some of the people on the other side just as easily.

I just love how he says far right, as if implying that all those people he’s talking about are indeed far right or alt right.

[Thermodolia]

Wait FN changed their name?

I’m thinking more along the lines of Constitutional monarchists which are the ones we have over here which are more right than far. I’ll give you that absolutists are definitely far right.

The Republican Party is only within the last 40 years become pretty right wing, still don’t consider them far right but economically they are to the right of FN as they are still pretty big tent, back in the 1950s the republicans where more like REM than FN.

The FN did indeed. They are now the Rassemblement national. New name, same old family. An attempt at a re-branding if you will. Jean-Marie Le Pen was recently admitted to the hospital too. If he had, uhm, passed while there, that would have been a divine sign that the party's reinvention is on the right track.
He made it out though.

Wouldn’t that have been fitting. I saw that they had a spilt again, LP was it?

Even a constitutional monarchy, in a Republic such as France today, is far-right. Particularly considering that even those who support the "constitutional monarchy" variety, the Orléaniste, have yet to digest everything that has happened in France since they were kicked out. Perhaps it is a side-effect of too much inbreeding.

I’ll give you that an attempt at a monarchy in France is crazy for one and definitely far right. Though in the US it’s generally just right wing, usually farther right than the GOP but sometimes not because of Canadian influence.

In the 1940s to 1980s era, the Republican Party was slightly to the right of the mainstream right in Europe. If our right had something of the center, the Republican Party was more solidly on the right. But still mainstream.

With the rise of Reagan and voodoo economics, the Republican Party lurched right, and it has no equivalent in the modern world.

Hey you don’t have to tell me about how nuts Reagan can be. I wish the Republican Party from the 50’s was still around at least economically

As for the rest you don’t have to tell me about their politics I know them. American politics as a whole has a right wing slant to it so that makes things here seem different to y’all, it’s also what causes France getting called socialist

[Thermodolia]

What’s happening in 25 years?

Either a world both on the mend and thoroughly democratic -- or nothing, as aliens bombard us with meteors rather than try and reason with us some time ago.

When did you become a Posadist

[Olerand]

Yes it's only the right wingers who are psychotic... all the people crying that the US is literally a Nazi regime are all perfectly sane. :nod:

Reality you can switch a few words around and your statement could also apply to some of the people on the other side just as easily.

I just love how he says far right, as if implying that all those people he’s talking about are indeed far right or alt right.

Is this me? Oh I know who's far-right and who's not. The people I call far-right are far-right. There are plenty of rightists on here (mostly British), and some center-rightists (mostly German or French). But the Americans are, routinely, far-right.

[Thermodolia]

I just love how he says far right, as if implying that all those people he’s talking about are indeed far right or alt right.

Is this me? Oh I know who's far-right and who's not. The people I call far-right are far-right. There are plenty of rightists on here (mostly British), and some center-rightists (mostly German or French). But the Americans are, routinely, far-right.

I wouldn’t go that far. You’re painting with a broad brush. I wouldn’t assume to say who is and isn’t a leftist either. And I wouldn’t paint all of one nation into a box

[Illegal Planets]

Well the thing is, regular people don't want a civil war. If someone says otherwise, I would think that they are at least a little unhinged. Things haven't gone that far yet. This whole beef is really between radicals on the left and right that have come into the spotlight since the 2016 election, although there is significant polarization happening for the folks in between.

I can't even be sure if the left radicals are really leftist, they seem to be running on a purely reactionary mindset where they're only outraged by what the media tells them to be outraged over.

Well they run the gamut from anarchists, marxists, maoists, and then organizations like BAMN, and even the Black Panther Party.

[Chernoslavia]

I just love how he says far right, as if implying that all those people he’s talking about are indeed far right or alt right.

Is this me? Oh I know who's far-right and who's not. The people I call far-right are far-right. There are plenty of rightists on here (mostly British), and some center-rightists (mostly German or French). But the Americans are, routinely, far-right.

Do you mean Americans in general, or just the ones you met? Because we have lots of people with lots of varying political opinions.

[The South Falls]

I can't even be sure if the left radicals are really leftist, they seem to be running on a purely reactionary mindset where they're only outraged by what the media tells them to be outraged over.

Well they run the gamut from anarchists, marxists, maoists, and then organizations like BAMN, and even the Black Panther Party.

The anarchic left almost surprises me. It sounds like an oxymoron, but it isn't.

[Illegal Planets]

I just love how he says far right, as if implying that all those people he’s talking about are indeed far right or alt right.

Is this me? Oh I know who's far-right and who's not. The people I call far-right are far-right. There are plenty of rightists on here (mostly British), and some center-rightists (mostly German or French). But the Americans are, routinely, far-right.

Oh yeah, like back when we elected President Obama.

[Thermodolia]

I can't even be sure if the left radicals are really leftist, they seem to be running on a purely reactionary mindset where they're only outraged by what the media tells them to be outraged over.

Well they run the gamut from anarchists, marxists, maoists, and then organizations like BAMN, and even the Black Panther Party.

Maoists hardly have a following in the US. There also aren’t any actual Marxist parties in the US either. The rest are more reactionary liberals than actual leftists

[Thermodolia]

Is this me? Oh I know who's far-right and who's not. The people I call far-right are far-right. There are plenty of rightists on here (mostly British), and some center-rightists (mostly German or French). But the Americans are, routinely, far-right.

Oh yeah, like back when we elected President Obama.

Who was still pretty center right

[Chernoslavia]

Well they run the gamut from anarchists, marxists, maoists, and then organizations like BAMN, and even the Black Panther Party.

The anarchic left almost surprises me. It sounds like an oxymoron, but it isn't.

Anarcho-Communism seems like an oxymoron to me.

[Thermodolia]

The anarchic left almost surprises me. It sounds like an oxymoron, but it isn't.

Anarchy-Communism seems like an oxymoron to me.

All of anarchy is an oxymoron

[Olerand]

The FN did indeed. They are now the Rassemblement national. New name, same old family. An attempt at a re-branding if you will. Jean-Marie Le Pen was recently admitted to the hospital too. If he had, uhm, passed while there, that would have been a divine sign that the party's reinvention is on the right track.
He made it out though.

Wouldn’t that have been fitting. I saw that they had a spilt again, LP was it?

Even a constitutional monarchy, in a Republic such as France today, is far-right. Particularly considering that even those who support the "constitutional monarchy" variety, the Orléaniste, have yet to digest everything that has happened in France since they were kicked out. Perhaps it is a side-effect of too much inbreeding.

I’ll give you that an attempt at a monarchy in France is crazy for one and definitely far right. Though in the US it’s generally just right wing, usually farther right than the GOP but sometimes not because of Canadian influence.

In the 1940s to 1980s era, the Republican Party was slightly to the right of the mainstream right in Europe. If our right had something of the center, the Republican Party was more solidly on the right. But still mainstream.

With the rise of Reagan and voodoo economics, the Republican Party lurched right, and it has no equivalent in the modern world.

Hey you don’t have to tell me about how nuts Reagan can be. I wish the Republican Party from the 50’s was still around at least economically

As for the rest you don’t have to tell me about their politics I know them. American politics as a whole has a right wing slant to it so that makes things here seem different to y’all, it’s also what causes France getting called socialist

Oh yes, after the election. The right and center of the FN brought out their knives against Florian Philippot (Marine's right hand man, and a homosexual), who's the head of the left, because they believed his policies on the Euro (he's for leaving, he's what we call a sovereignist, as in he believes in a sovereign France) were the reason why Marine under-perfomed from low 40-high 30s in the polls to low 30s in the results.
Which is half the truth , the other half is that she also had a terrible debate against Macron, after not having been able to sleep or really prepped at all, and having suffered from spontaneous blidness earlier in the morning.

I mean... I guess? I have next to no knowledge of monarchism in America and where it would be classified. How interesting that people like that exist. Who would even be the royal family?

I've been praised and derided for coming from a socialist country by Americans of both parties (well no Republican has praised me, but some Democrats have derided me). Which is quaint, considering my party, the Socialist party, wouldn't really consider France socialist. Though yet again the party itself isn't much socialist either.