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Postby Olerand » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:35 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Olerand wrote:In America? Well... Best of luck in that. I can see the Canadian military establishing a sort of Turkish-style buffer zone in Maine/New England/Pacific northwest etc.


Not a chance in the northwest, everywhere outside of the big cities is filled with very armed and very right wing people. Canada doesn't have the power to hold it.

I've never been. Heard it rains.

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Olerand wrote:This fragmentation, again, I think would be bad for the world, but good for America.


I highly doubt we'll become any more united, I think serious issues are just a matter of time.

I agree.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:35 pm

Not only is the chance high, we need one badly. I don't like war, but what else can save this nation?
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Postby Telconi » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:37 pm

Mystic Warriors wrote:Not only is the chance high, we need one badly. I don't like war, but what else can save this nation?


People not being dicks to one another.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:37 pm

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Not a chance in the northwest, everywhere outside of the big cities is filled with very armed and very right wing people. Canada doesn't have the power to hold it.

I've never been. Heard it rains.


Despite the general reputation of it being a super progressive place it generally has the exact opposite sort of types in a lot of places. I'd wager the northwest has most of the US's fascists and Nazis, and everyone in eastern Washington has a very large independent streak to them. Occupation would be a nightmare.

Also it hasn't rained lately, send help plz
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:37 pm

Telconi wrote:
Olerand wrote:This fragmentation, again, I think would be bad for the world, but good for America.


I highly doubt we'll become any more united, I think serious issues are just a matter of time.



Thanks to the right, it is guaranteed. The division is too deep.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:37 pm

Mystic Warriors wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I highly doubt we'll become any more united, I think serious issues are just a matter of time.



Thanks to the right, it is guaranteed. The division is too deep.


That's literally the problem. To people on the right it's thanks to the left.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:38 pm

Telconi wrote:
Mystic Warriors wrote:Not only is the chance high, we need one badly. I don't like war, but what else can save this nation?


People not being dicks to one another.



LOL. You ask too much.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:39 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Mystic Warriors wrote:

Thanks to the right, it is guaranteed. The division is too deep.


That's literally the problem. To people on the right it's thanks to the left.



See what I mean?
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Postby Olerand » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:39 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Olerand wrote:I've never been. Heard it rains.


Despite the general reputation of it being a super progressive place it generally has the exact opposite sort of types in a lot of places. I'd wager the northwest has most of the US's fascists and Nazis, and everyone in eastern Washington has a very large independent streak to them. Occupation would be a nightmare.

Also it hasn't rained lately, send help plz

Very interesting. Disturbing but also in a way... Not unexpected.
I had Washington wine once. It... wasn't good.

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Postby Telconi » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:39 pm

Mystic Warriors wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I highly doubt we'll become any more united, I think serious issues are just a matter of time.



Thanks to the right, it is guaranteed. The division is too deep.


>Is part of the problem
>Blames it on "the right"

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Postby Benuty » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:40 pm

After the war concludes if the interim government can't get its crap together we will most likely see a rump state ruled either by a heavily unstable republic for a few decades before dissolving or something reactionary. A reactionary government basing its legitimacy on military authority, and the dichotomy of "loyalists versus everyone else". That said we will most likely see several new governments holding portions of the former U.S with the help of foreign aid, supplies, and agreements.
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:40 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Mystic Warriors wrote:

Thanks to the right, it is guaranteed. The division is too deep.


That's literally the problem. To people on the right it's thanks to the left.


Well, they are the ones resorting to violence most often ever since the last election.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:40 pm

Mystic Warriors wrote:
Telconi wrote:
People not being dicks to one another.



LOL. You ask too much.


I'm inclined to agree judging by your post which followed mine...
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Postby Olerand » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:41 pm

Benuty wrote:After the war concludes if the interim government can't get its crap together we will most likely see a rump state ruled either by a heavily unstable republic for a few decades before dissolving or something reactionary. A reactionary government basing its legitimacy on military authority, and the dichotomy of "loyalists versus everyone else". That said we will most likely see several new governments holding portions of the former U.S with the help of foreign aid, supplies, and agreements.

Well... Sucks that we can't profit. If it spills over to Canada though, we're ready to welcome Québec where it belongs.
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:41 pm

Benuty wrote:After the war concludes if the interim government can't get its crap together we will most likely see a rump state ruled either by a heavily unstable republic for a few decades before dissolving or something reactionary. A reactionary government basing its legitimacy on military authority, and the dichotomy of "loyalists versus everyone else". That said we will most likely see several new governments holding portions of the former U.S with the help of foreign aid, supplies, and agreements.


I could see us resembling France after their revolution.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:42 pm

Telconi wrote:
Mystic Warriors wrote:

Thanks to the right, it is guaranteed. The division is too deep.


>Is part of the problem
>Blames it on "the right"

:roll:



Good job proving my point. :bow:
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:43 pm

Telconi wrote:
Mystic Warriors wrote:

LOL. You ask too much.


I'm inclined to agree judging by your post which followed mine...



Watch the flamebaiting, not helping you.
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Postby Olerand » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:43 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Benuty wrote:After the war concludes if the interim government can't get its crap together we will most likely see a rump state ruled either by a heavily unstable republic for a few decades before dissolving or something reactionary. A reactionary government basing its legitimacy on military authority, and the dichotomy of "loyalists versus everyone else". That said we will most likely see several new governments holding portions of the former U.S with the help of foreign aid, supplies, and agreements.


I could see us resembling France after their revolution.

You should be so lucky! We had a good time. It was a party.
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Postby Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:45 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Benuty wrote:After the war concludes if the interim government can't get its crap together we will most likely see a rump state ruled either by a heavily unstable republic for a few decades before dissolving or something reactionary. A reactionary government basing its legitimacy on military authority, and the dichotomy of "loyalists versus everyone else". That said we will most likely see several new governments holding portions of the former U.S with the help of foreign aid, supplies, and agreements.


I could see us resembling France after their revolution.


Hey, at least it’s a Republic, right?
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Postby Benuty » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:45 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Benuty wrote:After the war concludes if the interim government can't get its crap together we will most likely see a rump state ruled either by a heavily unstable republic for a few decades before dissolving or something reactionary. A reactionary government basing its legitimacy on military authority, and the dichotomy of "loyalists versus everyone else". That said we will most likely see several new governments holding portions of the former U.S with the help of foreign aid, supplies, and agreements.


I could see us resembling France after their revolution.

Nothing says fun like the ruling party going on a purging spree, and to top it off turning much of North America into revanchists wet dream.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:46 pm

Olerand wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
I could see us resembling France after their revolution.

You should be so lucky! We had a good time. It was a party.


Imagine being this delusional...
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-Life
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-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
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-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

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Postby Olerand » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:46 pm

Telconi wrote:
Olerand wrote:You should be so lucky! We had a good time. It was a party.


Imagine being this delusional...

Or, alternatively, imagine it being a joke.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:47 pm

Benuty wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
I could see us resembling France after their revolution.

Nothing says fun like the ruling party going on a purging spree, and to top it off turning much of North America into revanchists wet dream.

Give Texas back to mexico.
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Postby Benuty » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:47 pm

Olerand wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Imagine being this delusional...

Or, alternatively, imagine it being a joke.

Though knowing some people on this site view that era...with rather romantic goggles on it is honestly hard to tell.
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:47 pm

Benuty wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
I could see us resembling France after their revolution.

Nothing says fun like the ruling party going on a purging spree, and to top it off turning much of North America into revanchists wet dream.


True.
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