Correct! But today's democrats who call themselves liberals certainly are leftists.
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Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever

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Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever

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by Based Groyper » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:21 pm
Torrocca wrote:Based Groyper wrote:
You are Torocca are the only ones blindly repeating this slogan "LIBRUHLS ARE'NT LEFTISTS" as your only mode of debate.
Because it's a basic fact that Liberals aren't Leftists, which you'd know if you'd ever bothered to read a modicum of Leftist political theory or actually listened to Leftists (like us).

by Liriena » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:22 pm
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by Thermodolia » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:22 pm
Chernoslavia wrote:Thermodolia wrote:No they aren’t. The democrats are still very much not leftists, Sanders is the closest it to that
And you base this assertion on what exactly? Because last I checked people who call themselves liberals identify as left leaning and support leftist ideals, maybe not far-left or communist ideals exactly, but leftist ideals anyhow.

by Liriena » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:22 pm
Based Groyper wrote:Torrocca wrote:
Because it's a basic fact that Liberals aren't Leftists, which you'd know if you'd ever bothered to read a modicum of Leftist political theory or actually listened to Leftists (like us).
Again your just blindly repeating these "basic" and "simple" truths you've been taught without examining them. I know Leftist political theory most likely better than both of you which is how I know the people you call 'Librujls' are Leftists or the terms cease to mean anything meaningful.
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