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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:55 am

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Purgatio wrote:I'm Chinese, but very light-skinned, and I've slept with white guys with a skin tone practically-similar to mine. Is that okay, or immoral?


If you're Chinese, then ideally you'd only go with other east Asian ethnicities, if not your own. I'm White, so logically- if I want to ensure that my children are White like myself, I'd be limited to White ethnic groups only. That is the proper path and destiny for me.

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Postby Bakery Hill » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:56 am

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Purgatio wrote:I'm Chinese, but very light-skinned, and I've slept with white guys with a skin tone practically-similar to mine. Is that okay, or immoral?


If you're Chinese, then ideally you'd only go with other east Asian ethnicities, if not your own. I'm White, so logically- if I want to ensure that my children are White like myself, I'd be limited to White ethnic groups only. That is the proper path and destiny for me.

There's no logic in that.
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Postby Purgatio » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:56 am

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Purgatio wrote:I'm Chinese, but very light-skinned, and I've slept with white guys with a skin tone practically-similar to mine. Is that okay, or immoral?


If you're Chinese, then ideally you'd only go with other east Asian ethnicities, if not your own. I'm White, so logically- if I want to ensure that my children are White like myself, I'd be limited to White ethnic groups only. That is the proper path and destiny for me.


Also, if the problem is procreation or mixed children, then if you’re gay, or sterile, or your partner is on the pill, then you can sleep with anyone of any race?
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:05 am

Purgatio wrote:Surely you see how unnecessarily-complicated, ambiguous and bizarre this approach to sexual relations is


It is not complicated in my view. Clearly, I don't care so much about two Asians from two neighboring Asian countries or two Latinos from Hispanic nations mingling as one example, provided they more or less look the same on both sides. I'm far more offended by if the degree of miscegenation is far more obvious. A Black man with a White woman for example. Any baby such a union could produce, will be Black of course.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:06 am

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Purgatio wrote:Surely you see how unnecessarily-complicated, ambiguous and bizarre this approach to sexual relations is


It is not complicated in my view. Clearly, I don't care so much about two Asians from two neighboring Asian countries or two Latinos from Hispanic nations mingling as one example, provided they more or less look the same on both sides. I'm far more offended by if the degree of miscegenation is far more obvious. A Black man with a White woman for example. Any baby such a union could produce, will be Black of course.

Once again, why should anybody care?
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:06 am

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Purgatio wrote:Surely you see how unnecessarily-complicated, ambiguous and bizarre this approach to sexual relations is


It is not complicated in my view. Clearly, I don't care so much about two Asians from two neighboring Asian countries or two Latinos from Hispanic nations mingling as one example, provided they more or less look the same on both sides. I'm far more offended by if the degree of miscegenation is far more obvious. A Black man with a White woman for example. Any baby such a union could produce, will be Black of course.


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Postby Purpelia » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:08 am

I love it how the "evidence" of this case ranges from the idiotic (number 88) to the bizarre (comparing two slogans that sound nothing alike). And it still managed to fuel 8 pages of debate when it should just have been dismissed offhand.

I mean, did you people read the OP? The thing reads like a conspiracy theorist blog. It's literally "And if you look at these pictures of the moon landing you can clearly know they are fake because the number 11 is a secret code by NASA to prove it." level of crazy.
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Postby Frievolk » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:08 am

The Current Administration is definitely both White Supremacist, Racist, and possiblity crypto-fascist (they're not fascist yet. But they're getting there, and fast. Faster than Turkey) but they're nowhere smart enough to actually make something like that. So yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a coincidence.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:09 am

Frievolk wrote:The Current Administration is definitely both White Supremacist, Racist

Border enforcement = racism?
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Postby Dahon » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:09 am

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Purgatio wrote:The 14 words, taken in isolation, are fine. The problem is the context in which it is used, you say that it doesn't justify acting against non-Whites but the 14 words are generally deployed by white supremacist groups, and on Stormfront by forum users to advocate ethnic cleansing of the United States. And the 14 Words were used in David Lane's manifesto (the 88 Precepts) to advocate for banning interracial procreation and going back to Jim Crow-style segregation, so context is key.


I don't want Jim Crow but making interracial marriage illegal would be pretty damned good policy in my view. I'd prevent interracial sex if it were possible but I don't see that as very practical. No government is able to keep track of what people do in their private lives. It is still quite a grave sin. I know it is morally wrong to race mix.

Yeah, I get that it is seen as "uncool" to want to legislate your morality on everyone- but the older I get, the more I want to anyways. I get where social conservatives are coming from now.


Again, for all the [censored because I don't want my ass locked out for two weeks on your account] in the front (which I will spoiler so as to spare the rest pain):

WHITE SKIN DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE POWER TO LEVITATE
BLACK SKIN DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE POWER TO BURN SHIT TO CINDERS
BROWN SKIN DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE POWER TO AGE RANDOM SHIT
YELLOW SKIN DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE POWER TO BE A LIGHTHOUSE
PURPLE SKIN DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE POWER TO PRINT MONEY
BLUE SKIN DOES NOT GIVE YOUT THE POWER TO SWITCH BETWEEN TOP HATS
ANY MIXTURE OF THESE DON'T GIVE YOU ADDITIONAL POWERS
ZERO PLUS ZERO IS STILL ZERO
NOT ONE NOT NEGATIVE FIVE NOT THE EIGHTH ROOT OF SEVENTY SEVEN NOT A BLOODY IMAGINARY NUMBER
ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GODFUCKING ALFUCKINGMIGHTY
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Postby Purgatio » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:11 am

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Purgatio wrote:Surely you see how unnecessarily-complicated, ambiguous and bizarre this approach to sexual relations is


It is not complicated in my view. Clearly, I don't care so much about two Asians from two neighboring Asian countries or two Latinos from Hispanic nations mingling as one example, provided they more or less look the same on both sides. I'm far more offended by if the degree of miscegenation is far more obvious. A Black man with a White woman for example. Any baby such a union could produce, will be Black of course.


It is complicated, though, because its totally arbitrary. So even though I'm Chinese, you are okay with me sleeping with a Japanese or Korean, even though that's still an interracial marriage, but if I sleep with an African, a Latino or an Arab, suddenly that's a no-no.....why the difference? You say the miscegenation is "more obvious" in the latter case, I have no clue what that means or how you measure "obvious" miscegenation. If you mean that the skin colour is more contrasting, as I've already explained that metric is totally artificial. My skin tone as a Chinese is literally closer to some white people I know than some other comparatively-darker-skinned Chinese, yet you still think the former is not okay but the latter is. This is what I mean by unnecessarily-complicated and arbitrary.
Purgatio is an absolutist hereditary monarchy run as a one-party fascist dictatorship, which seized power in a sudden and abrupt coup d'état of 1987-1988, on an authoritarian eugenic and socially Darwinistic political philosophy and ideology, now ruled and dominated with a brutal iron fist under the watchful reign of Le Grand Roi Chalon-Arlay de la Fayette and La Grande Reine Geneviève de la Fayette (née Aumont) (i.e., the 'Founding Couple' or Le Couple Fondateur).

For a domestic Purgation 'propagandist' view of its role in the world, see: An Introduction to Purgatio.

And for a more 'objective' international perspective on Purgatio's history, culture, and politics, see: A Brief Overview of the History, Politics, and Culture of Le Royaume du Nettoyage de la Purgatio.

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Postby Frievolk » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:20 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Frievolk wrote:The Current Administration is definitely both White Supremacist, Racist

Border enforcement = racism?
Border Enforcement with the Color of your skin acting as the Litmus = Racism
Yes.
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Postby Dahon » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:22 am

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Purgatio wrote:Surely you see how unnecessarily-complicated, ambiguous and bizarre this approach to sexual relations is


It is not complicated in my view. Clearly, I don't care so much about two Asians from two neighboring Asian countries or two Latinos from Hispanic nations mingling as one example, provided they more or less look the same on both sides. I'm far more offended by if the degree of miscegenation is far more obvious. A Black man with a White woman for example. Any baby such a union could produce, will be Black of course.


I have Spanish, American (likely WASP), and Chinese ancestry, therefore I am white, yellow, and brown! Embrace me, my deluded maybe younger cousin!
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Postby Purgatio » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:25 am

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It is not complicated in my view. Clearly, I don't care so much about two Asians from two neighboring Asian countries or two Latinos from Hispanic nations mingling as one example, provided they more or less look the same on both sides. I'm far more offended by if the degree of miscegenation is far more obvious. A Black man with a White woman for example. Any baby such a union could produce, will be Black of course.


I have Spanish, American (likely WASP), and Chinese ancestry, therefore I am white, yellow, and brown! Embrace me, my deluded maybe younger cousin!


Genuinely wouldn't be surprised if he replies to your post by saying that your ancestors shouldn't have mixed, and you shouldn't procreate with anyone so that your 'mixed ancestry' doesn't get passed down

In fact, I'm willing to bet that's gonna be his response
Purgatio is an absolutist hereditary monarchy run as a one-party fascist dictatorship, which seized power in a sudden and abrupt coup d'état of 1987-1988, on an authoritarian eugenic and socially Darwinistic political philosophy and ideology, now ruled and dominated with a brutal iron fist under the watchful reign of Le Grand Roi Chalon-Arlay de la Fayette and La Grande Reine Geneviève de la Fayette (née Aumont) (i.e., the 'Founding Couple' or Le Couple Fondateur).

For a domestic Purgation 'propagandist' view of its role in the world, see: An Introduction to Purgatio.

And for a more 'objective' international perspective on Purgatio's history, culture, and politics, see: A Brief Overview of the History, Politics, and Culture of Le Royaume du Nettoyage de la Purgatio.

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Postby Saiwania » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:27 am

Purgatio wrote:It is complicated, though, because its totally arbitrary. So even though I'm Chinese, you are okay with me sleeping with a Japanese or Korean, even though that's still an interracial marriage, but if I sleep with an African, a Latino or an Arab, suddenly that's a no-no.....why the difference?


It is not an interracial marriage in my view. I interpret a Chinese with a Japanese as an intra-racial union instead, so it is acceptable in my view. The baby that could come from such a union wouldn't be drastically different from your typical generic east Asian like would be the case if you went with a non-Asian woman.
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Postby Purgatio » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:32 am

Saiwania wrote:
Purgatio wrote:It is complicated, though, because its totally arbitrary. So even though I'm Chinese, you are okay with me sleeping with a Japanese or Korean, even though that's still an interracial marriage, but if I sleep with an African, a Latino or an Arab, suddenly that's a no-no.....why the difference?


It is not an interracial marriage in my view. I interpret a Chinese with a Japanese as an intra-racial union instead, so it is acceptable in my view. The baby that could come from such a union wouldn't be drastically different from your typical generic east Asian like would be the case if you went with a Black or Latina or White woman.


Again, that's your own arbitrary way of defining how broad or narrow 'race' is, in your view. You see a Chinese-Japanese union as an 'intra-racial union', even though Chinese and Japanese are different races. I still don't understand why you see that as an 'intra-racial union' but other marriages are 'inter-racial unions'. Saying that I and a Japanese or Korean are 'generic East Asians' just opens up a can of worms. So why can't I go with a Siamese, a Khmer, a Viet, a Lao, a Manchu, a Mongol? Why not a Native American, given that as I mentioned in an earlier article, East Asians and Native Americans have some similar autosomal genetic sequences because we descend from common ancestors who crossed the old Bering Strait 'land bridge'? Who decides where the line is drawn here?

Today, most people consider the Slavs to be Caucasians just like any other white person, but Hitler considered the Slavs to be non-Aryan, and he saw a marriage between a German and a Slavic Pole as 'inter-racial' and against the Nuremberg Laws. You, presumably, see a 'German-Pole' marriage as 'intra-racial', so what objectively decides that you are correct and Hitler is wrong on this?
Purgatio is an absolutist hereditary monarchy run as a one-party fascist dictatorship, which seized power in a sudden and abrupt coup d'état of 1987-1988, on an authoritarian eugenic and socially Darwinistic political philosophy and ideology, now ruled and dominated with a brutal iron fist under the watchful reign of Le Grand Roi Chalon-Arlay de la Fayette and La Grande Reine Geneviève de la Fayette (née Aumont) (i.e., the 'Founding Couple' or Le Couple Fondateur).

For a domestic Purgation 'propagandist' view of its role in the world, see: An Introduction to Purgatio.

And for a more 'objective' international perspective on Purgatio's history, culture, and politics, see: A Brief Overview of the History, Politics, and Culture of Le Royaume du Nettoyage de la Purgatio.

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Postby Bakery Hill » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:33 am

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Purgatio wrote:It is complicated, though, because its totally arbitrary. So even though I'm Chinese, you are okay with me sleeping with a Japanese or Korean, even though that's still an interracial marriage, but if I sleep with an African, a Latino or an Arab, suddenly that's a no-no.....why the difference?


It is not an interracial marriage in my view. I interpret a Chinese with a Japanese as an intra-racial union instead, so it is acceptable in my view. The baby that could come from such a union wouldn't be drastically different from your typical generic east Asian like would be the case if you went with a Black or Latina or White woman.

Sir I have a degree in phrenology from the University of Koenigsberg and I question the scientific basis. If we throw Turano-Aryans like the Japanese into the Sinitic category we're really approaching pseudoscience.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:39 am

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Saiwania wrote:If you're Chinese, then ideally you'd only go with other east Asian ethnicities, if not your own. I'm White, so logically- if I want to ensure that my children are White like myself, I'd be limited to White ethnic groups only. That is the proper path and destiny for me.

There's no logic in that.

Logic has left this discussion quite a while ago, it's all debunked pseudo-science from here. Might as well throw chemtrails and the flat earth theory into the mix.


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Postby Bakery Hill » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:42 am

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Bakery Hill wrote:There's no logic in that.

Logic has left this discussion quite a while ago, it's all debunked pseudo-science from here. Might as well throw chemtrails and the flat earth theory into the mix.

Why not? I mean only the Aryan race can stop the Jewish Airline terraforming conspiracy to make the world a sphere.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:43 am

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Purgatio wrote:It is complicated, though, because its totally arbitrary. So even though I'm Chinese, you are okay with me sleeping with a Japanese or Korean, even though that's still an interracial marriage, but if I sleep with an African, a Latino or an Arab, suddenly that's a no-no.....why the difference?


It is not an interracial marriage in my view. I interpret a Chinese with a Japanese as an intra-racial union instead, so it is acceptable in my view. The baby that could come from such a union wouldn't be drastically different from your typical generic east Asian like would be the case if you went with a non-Asian woman.

Once again, why is interracial marriage bad?
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:44 am

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Hurdergaryp wrote:Logic has left this discussion quite a while ago, it's all debunked pseudo-science from here. Might as well throw chemtrails and the flat earth theory into the mix.

Why not? I mean only the Aryan race can stop the Jewish Airline terraforming conspiracy to make the world a sphere.

Wow! Is there anything God's chosen people aren't capable of?


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Postby Bakery Hill » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:45 am

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Bakery Hill wrote:Why not? I mean only the Aryan race can stop the Jewish Airline terraforming conspiracy to make the world a sphere.

Wow! Is there anything God's chosen people aren't capable of?

If only the Master Race was as able as they were.
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Postby Dahon » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:46 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
It is not an interracial marriage in my view. I interpret a Chinese with a Japanese as an intra-racial union instead, so it is acceptable in my view. The baby that could come from such a union wouldn't be drastically different from your typical generic east Asian like would be the case if you went with a non-Asian woman.

Once again, why is interracial marriage bad?


Because it has produced me, a man full of hyperbole, bad jokes, stale quotations, abject aping of an admittedly diverse array of decent writers, and dare I say egomania.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:46 am

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Petrolheadia wrote:Once again, why is interracial marriage bad?


Because it has produced me, a man full of hyperbole, bad jokes, stale quotations, abject aping of an admittedly diverse array of decent writers, and dare I say egomania.

This is the only halfway viable argument against miscegenation I've seen, well done.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:47 am

Dahon wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Once again, why is interracial marriage bad?


Because it has produced me, a man full of hyperbole, bad jokes, stale quotations, abject aping of an admittedly diverse array of decent writers, and dare I say egomania.

Cute, but still anecdotal fallacy.
Capitalism, single-payer healthcare, pro-choice, LGBT rights, progressive personal taxation, low corporate tax, pro-business law, welfare for those in need.
Nazism, edgism, dogmatic statements, most of Abrahamic-derived morality (esp. as law), welfare for those not in need.
We are not Albania and I am not Albanian, FFS!
Male, gearhead, classic rock fan, gamer, agnostic.
Not sure if left-libertarian, ex-libertarian or without a damn clue.
Where you can talk about cars!
"They're always saying I'm a Capitalist pig. I suppose I am, but, ah...it ah...it's good for my drumming, I think." - Keith Moon,
If a Porsche owner treats it like a bicycle, he's a gentleman. And if he prays to it, he's simply a moron. - Jan Nowicki.

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