DHS Press Release with White Supremacist Imagery?

[Ifreann]

Not caring is a big part of why the Nazis rose to power in the first place. Let's not do that.

>implying they now have any chance of taking power

Because the only possible danger of Nazis is them entering government. It's not like they might assault or kill people even when they aren't in government.

[Petrolheadia]

>implying they now have any chance of taking power

Given the messages of Trump would align with white nationalists with significant overlap on immigration, building of walls, and mass deportation policies. It may be that they're already inside.

That's just heightened border control for an era of surprisingly high immigration, overlapping with the immigrants lowering wages.

[Petrolheadia]

>implying they now have any chance of taking power

Because the only possible danger of Nazis is them entering government. It's not like they might assault or kill people even when they aren't in government.

Then they're just street criminals to be arrested.

[The Serbian Empire]

Given the messages of Trump would align with white nationalists with significant overlap on immigration, building of walls, and mass deportation policies. It may be that they're already inside.

That's just heightened border control for an era of surprisingly high immigration, overlapping with the immigrants lowering wages.

Those are mere justifications when illegal immigration and asylum seeking are at historically low levels in the US. The full intent is to appease xenophobes such as white nationalists, hence Trump viewing people opposing those defending Confederate statues as bad.

[Proctopeo]

What a wild and inaccurate simplification.

Lol, sure, alright. Let's just pretend political apathy didn't help the Nazis gain power.

It was less significant than some of the other factors, like "the economy collapsed overnight" and "the government isn't functioning whatsoever" and "paramilitaries are fighting in the streets constantly".

[Otira]

What a wild and inaccurate simplification.

Lol, sure, alright. Let's just pretend political apathy didn't help the Nazis gain power.

More to the point, caring about the non-Nazi tattoos people wear and trying to guess if they're Nazis or not because of said tattoos won't keep "da nazis" out of power.

[Petrolheadia]

That's just heightened border control for an era of surprisingly high immigration, overlapping with the immigrants lowering wages.

Those are mere justifications when illegal immigration and asylum seeking are at historically low levels in the US. The full intent is to appease xenophobes such as white nationalists, hence Trump viewing people opposing those defending Confederate statues as bad.

It still works well for the country.

[Illegal Planets]

Lol, sure, alright. Let's just pretend political apathy didn't help the Nazis gain power.

I think he means there was a lot more than just apathy that caused the rise of Nazism

The Nazis kicked Germany into gear and the people were hungry for the rise of the Third Reich after their decline following WWI. Apathy had nothing to do with their rise to power. They were probably apathetic to the genocide of Jews, but this whole bag is a different discussion.

[Torrocca]

I think he means there was a lot more than just apathy that caused the rise of Nazism

The Nazis kicked Germany into gear

Germany had already economically recovered by the late 1920s.

and the people were hungry for the rise of the Third Reich after their decline following WWI.

Shocking that a culture of militant nationalism that persisted since the 1870s would lead to the rise of a militant, nationalist government. Huh, sounds similar to another country that's not recently had any strong military victories and a strong culture of nationalism.

Apathy had nothing to do with their rise to power.

Apathy played a part to those who didn't care that an Anti-Semitic, despotic regime was rising to power.

[The Serbian Empire]

Those are mere justifications when illegal immigration and asylum seeking are at historically low levels in the US. The full intent is to appease xenophobes such as white nationalists, hence Trump viewing people opposing those defending Confederate statues as bad.

It still works well for the country.

At least in theory, in actuality most illegal immigration is people overstaying tourist or student visas which meant they entered legally.

[Proctopeo]

The Nazis kicked Germany into gear

Germany had already economically recovered by the late 1920s.

and the people were hungry for the rise of the Third Reich after their decline following WWI.

Shocking that a culture of militant nationalism that persisted since the 1870s would lead to the rise of a militant, nationalist government. Huh, sounds similar to another country that's not recently had any strong military victories and a strong culture of nationalism.

Apathy had nothing to do with their rise to power.

Apathy played a part to those who didn't care that an Anti-Semitic, despotic regime was rising to power.

The only other (viable) option at that point were the Marxist-Leninists. Whoever wins, they (and the rest of the world) lose.

[Torrocca]

Germany had already economically recovered by the late 1920s.



Shocking that a culture of militant nationalism that persisted since the 1870s would lead to the rise of a militant, nationalist government. Huh, sounds similar to another country that's not recently had any strong military victories and a strong culture of nationalism.



Apathy played a part to those who didn't care that an Anti-Semitic, despotic regime was rising to power.

The only other (viable) option at that point were the Marxist-Leninists. Whoever wins, they (and the rest of the world) lose.

They also had the SocDems.

[Proctopeo]

The only other (viable) option at that point were the Marxist-Leninists. Whoever wins, they (and the rest of the world) lose.

They also had the SocDems.

They kinda got screwed sideways with a pipe by the Depression, which is why people were turning against the democratic parties towards the despots.

[Torrocca]

They also had the SocDems.

They kinda got screwed sideways with a pipe by the Depression, which is why people were turning against the democratic parties towards the despots.

I mean, there was also the whole culture of militant nationalism Germany had going on, plus the whole Europe-wide anti-semitism that'd be around for centuries by then.

Really, it was only natural that the Germans pick Nazis for their leaders.

[Illegal Planets]

They kinda got screwed sideways with a pipe by the Depression, which is why people were turning against the democratic parties towards the despots.

I mean, there was also the whole culture of militant nationalism Germany had going on, plus the whole Europe-wide anti-semitism that'd be around for centuries by then.

Really, it was only natural that the Germans pick Nazis for their leaders.

Yeah, and they didn't do too bad either :^)

[Torrocca]

I mean, there was also the whole culture of militant nationalism Germany had going on, plus the whole Europe-wide anti-semitism that'd be around for centuries by then.

Really, it was only natural that the Germans pick Nazis for their leaders.

Yeah, and they didn't do too bad either :^)

Entirely wrong. Nazis couldn't do shit right :^)))

[Proctopeo]

They kinda got screwed sideways with a pipe by the Depression, which is why people were turning against the democratic parties towards the despots.

I mean, there was also the whole culture of militant nationalism Germany had going on, plus the whole Europe-wide anti-semitism that'd be around for centuries by then.

Really, it was only natural that the Germans pick Nazis for their leaders.

ngl the commies would have found a way to blame the Jews, too, although how they act on it we couldn't know

[Illegal Planets]

I mean, there was also the whole culture of militant nationalism Germany had going on, plus the whole Europe-wide anti-semitism that'd be around for centuries by then.

Really, it was only natural that the Germans pick Nazis for their leaders.

ngl the commies would have found a way to blame the Jews, too, although how they act on it we couldn't know

Just look at how well Russia was doing at the time.

[Olerand]

I’m like 80% sure it’s a coincidence

Mhm. Especially the part about the use of the metric of 88. It could mean that... Or it could not.

[Proctopeo]

I’m like 80% sure it’s a coincidence

Mhm. Especially the part about the use of the metric of 88. It could mean that... Or it could not.

til that 1988 was a Nazi year, especially the 14th of every month

[Torrocca]

Mhm. Especially the part about the use of the metric of 88. It could mean that... Or it could not.

til that 1988 was a Nazi year, especially the 14th of every month

I mean, who the fuck uses 88 as a denominator in a fraction though? And with 13 specifically as the other number?

[Petrolheadia]

til that 1988 was a Nazi year, especially the 14th of every month

I mean, who the fuck uses 88 as a denominator in a fraction though? And with 13 specifically as the other number?

"13 out of 88" sounds more round than "14,772727272%", and 13 is a prime number.

[Proctopeo]

til that 1988 was a Nazi year, especially the 14th of every month

I mean, who the fuck uses 88 as a denominator in a fraction though? And with 13 specifically as the other number?

Sometimes you have 88 or a multiple of it, and 13 or the same multiple of it. Coincidences happen, sometimes they're bizarre.

[The first Galactic Republic]

And they’re turning the frogs gay too.

[Torrocca]

I mean, who the fuck uses 88 as a denominator in a fraction though? And with 13 specifically as the other number?

"13 out of 88" sounds more round than "14,772727272%", and 13 is a prime number.

Just round up to 15%, because 13/88 is suspiciously close to 14/88, which is something you probably don't want to do unless you want to sound like a Nazi that's trying to hide the Nazism.