DHS Press Release with White Supremacist Imagery?

[Otira]

They also have a habit of tattooing themselves with Iron Crosses and 14/88 and Norse runes and so on.

Except the 14/88 bit so do a lot of people who aren't Nazis.

Don't shame people for their appearance.

[Illegal Planets]

They also have a habit of tattooing themselves with Iron Crosses and 14/88 and Norse runes and so on.

Except the 14/88 bit so do a lot of people who aren't Nazis.

Don't shame people for their appearance.

The nazis hijacked a great many symbols, but that doesn't mean that they own them. A simple google search will tell you what any of these things signify, and it has nothing to do with hate.

[Ifreann]

They also have a habit of tattooing themselves with Iron Crosses and 14/88 and Norse runes and so on.

Except the 14/88 bit so do a lot of people who aren't Nazis.

Don't shame people for their appearance.

If people don't want to be taken for Nazis then they shouldn't get Nazi looking tattoos.

[Illegal Planets]

Except the 14/88 bit so do a lot of people who aren't Nazis.

Don't shame people for their appearance.

If people don't want to be taken for Nazis then they shouldn't get Nazi looking tattoos.

"Nazi looking tattoos"

Wew lad

[Proctopeo]

Except the 14/88 bit so do a lot of people who aren't Nazis.

Don't shame people for their appearance.

If people don't want to be taken for Nazis then they shouldn't get Nazi looking tattoos.

Someone call up the Bundeswehr and tell them that they're all nazis because their symbol is the Iron Cross, should make Germany even more interesting politically

[Petrolheadia]

Except the 14/88 bit so do a lot of people who aren't Nazis.

Don't shame people for their appearance.

If people don't want to be taken for Nazis then they shouldn't get Nazi looking tattoos.

If people don't wanna be taken for Nazis, shut up and don't judge.

[Aureumterra]

Somehow, no one noticed this four months ago, when the following press release was made by the Department of Homeland Security.

The title is: "We Must Secure The Border And Build The Wall To Make America Safe Again"

That’s 14 words- the same as the "14 words"- a white supremacist slogan: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

The opening is the same. The resemblance is, at best, careless. But it gets worse. If you include the part in bold, the release has 14 points- and the penultimate point mentions the number 88- a white supremacist code for Heil Hitler (88=HH). There’s no reason to include 88 in that context, as usually, you either would give a percentage or at least state it out of a round number (50, 100, etc.) Why 88?

Thoughts, NSG? Is there any possible way this is an accident?

I’ve long held that there hasn’t been evidence of the Trump administration being actually racist, or actively attempting to attract white nationalists. I now must reconsider. This cannot be an accident, and if this was some joke made by someone in the department, shame on them, and shame on all those who didn’t notice something was wrong. There’s at least a lot of explaining to do. Gross and unhelpful coming from an unpopular department.

The first Godzilla movie released in 1954

1954 is the same year the FIFA world cup happened in Switzerland

West Germany won the world cup

Theodor Heuss was president of West Germany during that time

Theodor Heuss visited Greece

Therefore, Godzilla is actually Greek!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ifreann]

If people don't want to be taken for Nazis then they shouldn't get Nazi looking tattoos.

Someone call up the Bundeswehr and tell them that they're all nazis because their symbol is the Iron Cross, should make Germany even more interesting politically

It's okay if you can't understand nuance in symbolism.

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If people don't want to be taken for Nazis then they shouldn't get Nazi looking tattoos.

If people don't wanna be taken for Nazis, shut up and don't judge.

No.

[Illegal Planets]

Someone call up the Bundeswehr and tell them that they're all nazis because their symbol is the Iron Cross, should make Germany even more interesting politically

It's okay if you can't understand nuance in symbolism.

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If people don't wanna be taken for Nazis, shut up and don't judge.

No.

You probably think anything symbol stemming from the old German Empire is a nazi symbol, don't you? Or anything nordic?

[Torrocca]

If people don't want to be taken for Nazis then they shouldn't get Nazi looking tattoos.

"Nazi looking tattoos"

Wew lad

*Tattoos blood type under arm*

N-Nein, Yankee, I am not ze SS! Is merely for ze doctors!

[Proctopeo]

Someone call up the Bundeswehr and tell them that they're all nazis because their symbol is the Iron Cross, should make Germany even more interesting politically

It's okay if you can't understand nuance in symbolism.

Is the Iron Cross not Nazi-looking?

[Ifreann]

It's okay if you can't understand nuance in symbolism.

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No.

You probably think anything symbol stemming from the old German Empire is a nazi symbol, don't you? Or anything nordic?

I could explain to you that Nazis, both to avoid bans on Nazi symbolism on places like Germany and just to be a bit crypto, do adopt and display such symbols to quietly signal their Nazism to other Nazis. I could explain to you that symbols are not absolute, that there are subtleties of context and presentation to consider, that we can believe that a person is a Nazi even though the symbols they are displaying were not actually employed by Nazi Germany.

But if you've already decided that you're going to do a whole "Look at those liberals thinking that everyone is Nazis, lawl" thing then I suspect it doesn't matter what I say.

[The East Marches II]

Someone call up the Bundeswehr and tell them that they're all nazis because their symbol is the Iron Cross, should make Germany even more interesting politically

It's okay if you can't understand nuance in symbolism.

It's ok if you can't understand why lying is bad.

[Petrolheadia]

You probably think anything symbol stemming from the old German Empire is a nazi symbol, don't you? Or anything nordic?

I could explain to you that Nazis, both to avoid bans on Nazi symbolism on places like Germany and just to be a bit crypto, do adopt and display such symbols to quietly signal their Nazism to other Nazis. I could explain to you that symbols are not absolute, that there are subtleties of context and presentation to consider, that we can believe that a person is a Nazi even though the symbols they are displaying were not actually employed by Nazi Germany.

But if you've already decided that you're going to do a whole "Look at those liberals thinking that everyone is Nazis, lawl" thing then I suspect it doesn't matter what I say.

Or maybe let's just not care about whether this person is trying to convey one or another message?

[Illegal Planets]

You probably think anything symbol stemming from the old German Empire is a nazi symbol, don't you? Or anything nordic?

I could explain to you that Nazis, both to avoid bans on Nazi symbolism on places like Germany and just to be a bit crypto, do adopt and display such symbols to quietly signal their Nazism to other Nazis. I could explain to you that symbols are not absolute, that there are subtleties of context and presentation to consider, that we can believe that a person is a Nazi even though the symbols they are displaying were not actually employed by Nazi Germany.

But if you've already decided that you're going to do a whole "Look at those liberals thinking that everyone is Nazis, lawl" thing then I suspect it doesn't matter what I say.

But you are doing the whole "everyone is a nazi" thing. I understand that nazis hijacked many symbols that predate their rise to power. You literally said that you can "believe a person is a nazi even though the symbols they are displaying were not actually employed by Nazi Germany". Many of those symbols and runes are used by Pagans and people who are proud of their heritage.

[The Serbian Empire]

This is some next level Alex Jones type shit, I approve

The problem is that the White Supremacists would fully support these proposals which makes the conspiracy theory hold even more water.

"Nazi looking tattoos"

Wew lad

*Tattoos blood type under arm*

N-Nein, Yankee, I am not ze SS! Is merely for ze doctors!

Is zat you, Dr. Mengele? Probably not, you don't look like Dr. Mengele.

[Torrocca]

I could explain to you that Nazis, both to avoid bans on Nazi symbolism on places like Germany and just to be a bit crypto, do adopt and display such symbols to quietly signal their Nazism to other Nazis. I could explain to you that symbols are not absolute, that there are subtleties of context and presentation to consider, that we can believe that a person is a Nazi even though the symbols they are displaying were not actually employed by Nazi Germany.

But if you've already decided that you're going to do a whole "Look at those liberals thinking that everyone is Nazis, lawl" thing then I suspect it doesn't matter what I say.

Or maybe let's just not care about whether this person is trying to convey one or another message?

Not caring is a big part of why the Nazis rose to power in the first place. Let's not do that.

[Illegal Planets]

Or maybe let's just not care about whether this person is trying to convey one or another message?

Not caring is a big part of why the Nazis rose to power in the first place. Let's not do that.

What a wild and inaccurate simplification.

[Ifreann]

I could explain to you that Nazis, both to avoid bans on Nazi symbolism on places like Germany and just to be a bit crypto, do adopt and display such symbols to quietly signal their Nazism to other Nazis. I could explain to you that symbols are not absolute, that there are subtleties of context and presentation to consider, that we can believe that a person is a Nazi even though the symbols they are displaying were not actually employed by Nazi Germany.

But if you've already decided that you're going to do a whole "Look at those liberals thinking that everyone is Nazis, lawl" thing then I suspect it doesn't matter what I say.

Or maybe let's just not care about whether this person is trying to convey one or another message?

That's stupid.

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I could explain to you that Nazis, both to avoid bans on Nazi symbolism on places like Germany and just to be a bit crypto, do adopt and display such symbols to quietly signal their Nazism to other Nazis. I could explain to you that symbols are not absolute, that there are subtleties of context and presentation to consider, that we can believe that a person is a Nazi even though the symbols they are displaying were not actually employed by Nazi Germany.

But if you've already decided that you're going to do a whole "Look at those liberals thinking that everyone is Nazis, lawl" thing then I suspect it doesn't matter what I say.

But you are doing the whole "everyone is a nazi" thing.

I haven't called anyone a Nazi. So as I guess I was right. It doesn't matter what I say.

[Torrocca]

Not caring is a big part of why the Nazis rose to power in the first place. Let's not do that.

What a wild and inaccurate simplification.

Lol, sure, alright. Let's just pretend political apathy didn't help the Nazis gain power.

[Firaxin]

What a wild and inaccurate simplification.

Lol, sure, alright. Let's just pretend political apathy didn't help the Nazis gain power.

I think he means there was a lot more than just apathy that caused the rise of Nazism

[Petrolheadia]

Or maybe let's just not care about whether this person is trying to convey one or another message?

Not caring is a big part of why the Nazis rose to power in the first place. Let's not do that.

>implying they now have any chance of taking power

[Torrocca]

Lol, sure, alright. Let's just pretend political apathy didn't help the Nazis gain power.

I think he means there was a lot more than just apathy that caused the rise of Nazism

Well, I never said it was the only thing that caused the rise of Nazism. Just that it was an important factor, so that's a moot point.

Not caring is a big part of why the Nazis rose to power in the first place. Let's not do that.

>implying they now have any chance of taking power

>Implying an Americanized form of hyper-nationalism doesn't have a chance of taking power

Remember, Nazism didn't win in a day :^)

[The Serbian Empire]

Not caring is a big part of why the Nazis rose to power in the first place. Let's not do that.

>implying they now have any chance of taking power

Given the messages of Trump would align with white nationalists with significant overlap on immigration, building of walls, and mass deportation policies. It may be that they're already inside.

[Otira]

Except the 14/88 bit so do a lot of people who aren't Nazis.

Don't shame people for their appearance.

If people don't want to be taken for Nazis then they shouldn't get Nazi looking tattoos.

Slut-shamer logic.