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Postby Dahon » Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:53 am

Whatever motivates people to fuck Nazis so thoroughly they won't know the meaning of revival if it slaps them right in the fucking face, the better, I say. Give them the benefit of the doubt and they'll dogwhistle all over you till they have complete control and the only thing you do is haul your ass and kick you out -- of the country, off solid ground, off less hot weather, into the afterlife...

... better to overreact and crush them than to under react and let them crush you.
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Dahon wrote:Whatever motivates people to fuck Nazis so thoroughly they won't know the meaning of revival if it slaps them right in the fucking face, the better, I say. Give them the benefit of the doubt and they'll dogwhistle all over you till they have complete control and the only thing you do is haul your ass and kick you out -- of the country, off solid ground, off less hot weather, into the afterlife...

... better to overreact and crush them than to under react and let them crush you.

You're saying that we need to attack the view that is seen as evil distilled outside its circle with Monty Python-grade methods?

Yeah, how about no.
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Postby Hawdhanah » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:00 am

Dahon wrote:Whatever motivates people to fuck Nazis so thoroughly they won't know the meaning of revival if it slaps them right in the fucking face, the better, I say. Give them the benefit of the doubt and they'll dogwhistle all over you till they have complete control and the only thing you do is haul your ass and kick you out -- of the country, off solid ground, off less hot weather, into the afterlife...

... better to overreact and crush them than to under react and let them crush you.

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Christmas Pudding wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=445850

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Postby Purgatio » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:02 am

....okay I'm not a fan of Trump, at all. I think he's unqualified, professionally-incompetent, a moron who doesn't understand government or bureaucracy or the law, or anything....

But I'm 100% sure this is a coincidence. The OP is looking for hidden meanings and agendas which just aren't there, please let it go, it looks pretty embarassing. If you want to criticise Trump and the Trump administration, there is absolutely no need to dabble in wacky conspiracy theories to do it. Just wait for his next tweet and save yourself the effort.
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Postby Dahon » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:04 am

Won't hurt to prepare for such an eventuality, for it will happen. Already they are moving against even naturalized citizens for "fear" "they might have falsified their applications" "and thus have broken the law" -- a shit cover, given a considerable segment of that population would've lived for at least a decade.

The only question for them is not when, but how.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:06 am

Dahon wrote:Won't hurt to prepare for such an eventuality, for it will happen. Already they are moving against even naturalized citizens for "fear" "they might have falsified their applications" "and thus have broken the law" -- a shit cover, given a considerable segment of that population would've lived for at least a decade.

The IRS has been auditing tax-paying Americans of all races and backgrounds for over a hundred and fifty years.

But audit brown people's immigration status once, and it's RACIST WHITE SUPREMACISM!
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Postby Dahon » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:16 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Dahon wrote:Won't hurt to prepare for such an eventuality, for it will happen. Already they are moving against even naturalized citizens for "fear" "they might have falsified their applications" "and thus have broken the law" -- a shit cover, given a considerable segment of that population would've lived for at least a decade.

The IRS has been auditing tax-paying Americans of all races and backgrounds for over a hundred and fifty years.

But audit brown people's immigration status once, and it's RACIST WHITE SUPREMACISM!


Did I say this is about race? No, not here yet -- this administration hates foreigners of all stripes and would thus work overtime to strip foreigners within American jurisdiction -- illegal and legal migrants, tourists and expatriates, even naturalized citizens -- of their constitutional guarantees under various pretexts, both legal and illegal, both powers in common use since Reagan and powers seldom used or else used extremely judiciously and cautiously. No, this is not "racism", though it may well go there before time's up for our species -- as long as Miller is in power he will make sure of that -- but xenophobia.

But again: ethnic, cultural, schmit, schmerlock.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:20 am

Dahon wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:The IRS has been auditing tax-paying Americans of all races and backgrounds for over a hundred and fifty years.

But audit brown people's immigration status once, and it's RACIST WHITE SUPREMACISM!


Did I say this is about race? No, not here yet -- this administration hates foreigners of all stripes and would thus work overtime to strip foreigners within American jurisdiction -- illegal and legal migrants, tourists and expatriates, even naturalized citizens -- of their constitutional guarantees under various pretexts, both legal and illegal, both powers in common use since Reagan and powers seldom used or else used extremely judiciously and cautiously. No, this is not "racism", though it may well go there before time's up for our species -- as long as Miller is in power he will make sure of that -- but xenophobia.

But again: ethnic, cultural, schmit, schmerlock.

You call it racism, I call it an audit.
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Postby The Sherpa Empire » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:21 am

Dahon wrote:Won't hurt to prepare for such an eventuality, for it will happen. Already they are moving against even naturalized citizens for "fear" "they might have falsified their applications" "and thus have broken the law" -- a shit cover, given a considerable segment of that population would've lived for at least a decade.

The only question for them is not when, but how.


So mobilize lawyers and such to defend the rights of those naturalized citizens. Dealing with that is a separate issue from wigging out because someone put the number 88 in a press release.

And yes, the harassment of immigrants is shit. I've heard of Latino Americans getting stopped by police, providing valid ID and then being held because someone thought the ID was fake. That is the sort of thing we should be focusing on. If they can't tell a valid ID from a fake one, then they need to improve the design of the IDs or the system for issuing and managing them, not just make wild guesses based on people's appearance.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:24 am

OP got this wrong. The topic of illegal aliens combined with the number 88 is an unintentional prophecy by an unawakened seer relating to Hitler's base on the moon and their control of the invisible rogue planet Niburu which they seek to crash into the Earth.

This is also prophesied by coded messages in the Bible and the Windows 10 service agreement.
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:24 am

The 14 words are true so far as I'm concerned. Is there a logical argument against it? It doesn't necessitate acting against non-Whites' right to exist per say, but if you're White- it is most rational to take the minimal or necessary steps to keep your race protected or holding onto the power and leverage or status that can be kept.
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Postby Dahon » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:30 am

Saiwania wrote:The 14 words are true so far as I'm concerned. Is there a logical argument against it? It doesn't necessitate acting against non-Whites' right to exist per say, but if you're White- it is most rational to take the minimal or necessary steps to keep your race protected or holding onto the power and leverage or status that can be kept.


What flatulent bullshit. Whiteness does not give you superpowers. Blackness does not give you superpowers. Brownness, yellowness, orangeness, purpleness, rainbowness, colorlessness -- none of them give you superpowers. To formulate policy to give differential assistance to a member of the human species based on outside appearances is not only bullshit, it is harmful bullshit that, when it puts a favored "race" on a pedestal, inevitably inexorably degree by degree gives the rest their quota of pain and grief.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:33 am

Saiwania wrote:The 14 words are true so far as I'm concerned. Is there a logical argument against it? It doesn't necessitate acting against non-Whites' right to exist per say, but if you're White- it is most rational to take the minimal or necessary steps to keep your race protected or holding onto the power and leverage or status that can be kept.


So how is keeping the different people out "[keeping] your race protected"?
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Postby Sicaris » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:36 am

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Fauxia wrote:Lol.

I don’t know, with the fishy things that are coming up, and all the accusations of "white nationalists" and "fascists" going around, it seems too much of a coincidence.

In any case, it seems at least a bit careless. The only thing that would be (subtly) worse would be if it was released on August 14


It is too much of a coincidence. This is their plan Fauxia, these people are not human. DHS is literally compromised of motherfucking interdimensional demons.


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Postby Purgatio » Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:31 am

Saiwania wrote:The 14 words are true so far as I'm concerned. Is there a logical argument against it? It doesn't necessitate acting against non-Whites' right to exist per say, but if you're White- it is most rational to take the minimal or necessary steps to keep your race protected or holding onto the power and leverage or status that can be kept.


The 14 words, taken in isolation, are fine. The problem is the context in which it is used, you say that it doesn't justify acting against non-Whites but the 14 words are generally deployed by white supremacist groups, and on Stormfront by forum users to advocate ethnic cleansing of the United States. And the 14 Words were used in David Lane's manifesto (the 88 Precepts) to advocate for banning interracial procreation and going back to Jim Crow-style segregation, so context is key.
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And for a more 'objective' international perspective on Purgatio's history, culture, and politics, see: A Brief Overview of the History, Politics, and Culture of Le Royaume du Nettoyage de la Purgatio.

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Postby Crockerland » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:39 am

You want your country to have a border like every other nation on Earth?? Looks like we found the racist.

Also have you noticed Steven Crowder was born in 1987? If you add one year to that it's 88 like HH like heil hitler?? Yeah I've basically just proven he's a neo-nazi, let's see Trump lovers try to cover up this one.

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Postby Alvecia » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:49 am

14 words huh?

14 is divisible by 7

7 is only 3 away from 10

A triangle has 3 sides

It's all becoming clear now!

This is a coincidence.
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Postby Illegal Planets » Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:04 am

Fauxia wrote:The title is: "We Must Secure The Border And Build The Wall To Make America Safe Again"

That’s 14 words- the same as the "14 words"- a white supremacist slogan: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."


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Postby Geneviev » Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:18 am

This is a strange thing to focus on. It's just a coincidence. Also, the reasoning reminds me of why man was never on the moon.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:55 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:This is some next level Alex Jones type shit, I approve

I'm thinking the OP just made Stretch Armstrong® jealous, as in he wishes he could stretch that far.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:46 am

Vassenor wrote:
Saiwania wrote:The 14 words are true so far as I'm concerned. Is there a logical argument against it? It doesn't necessitate acting against non-Whites' right to exist per say, but if you're White- it is most rational to take the minimal or necessary steps to keep your race protected or holding onto the power and leverage or status that can be kept.


So how is keeping the different people out "[keeping] your race protected"?

Oh it's perfectly simple. If brown people are allowed to live near white people then they might seduce white people and make brown babies. And this is genocide.
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Postby Purgatio » Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:51 am

Ifreann wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So how is keeping the different people out "[keeping] your race protected"?

Oh it's perfectly simple. If brown people are allowed to live near white people then they might seduce white people and make brown babies. And this is genocide.


Don't forget, if the brown people have more babies amongst themselves than the white people, that too is "genocide". Well, according to the WNs
Purgatio is an absolutist hereditary monarchy run as a one-party fascist dictatorship, which seized power in a sudden and abrupt coup d'état of 1987-1988, on an authoritarian eugenic and socially Darwinistic political philosophy and ideology, now ruled and dominated with a brutal iron fist under the watchful reign of Le Grand Roi Chalon-Arlay de la Fayette and La Grande Reine Geneviève de la Fayette (née Aumont) (i.e., the 'Founding Couple' or Le Couple Fondateur).

For a domestic Purgation 'propagandist' view of its role in the world, see: An Introduction to Purgatio.

And for a more 'objective' international perspective on Purgatio's history, culture, and politics, see: A Brief Overview of the History, Politics, and Culture of Le Royaume du Nettoyage de la Purgatio.

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Postby Dahon » Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:54 am

Ifreann wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So how is keeping the different people out "[keeping] your race protected"?

Oh it's perfectly simple. If brown people are allowed to live near white people then they might seduce white people and make brown babies. And this is genocide.


Or white babies. Two can play the race game, y'know -- he's black he's white duh duh duh duh
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