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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:38 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yeah lets completely destroy any resemblance of Democracy. I want a blue tsunami like you but I dont want to destroy democracy itself unlike you.

Then Democrats will never take back power. They are too civil and spineless to do anything extreme to overthrow the fascist regime that is rising from this Republican party.

We still have elections. Until they are done away with I will not subscribe to your defeatism and extremism

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Postby Olerand » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:39 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Then Democrats will never take back power. They are too civil and spineless to do anything extreme to overthrow the fascist regime that is rising from this Republican party.

We still have elections. Until they are done away with I will not subscribe to your defeatism and extremism

But you need to win those. And Democrats... Well...
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Postby Freezic Vast » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:39 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Then Democrats will never take back power. They are too civil and spineless to do anything extreme to overthrow the fascist regime that is rising from this Republican party.

We still have elections. Until they are done away with I will not subscribe to your defeatism and extremism

I think that is one thing we can agree on.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:40 pm

Valgora wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Then Democrats will never take back power. They are too civil and spineless to do anything extreme to overthrow the fascist regime that is rising from this Republican party.


There is no fascist regime rising from the Republican party.


Bu...but Trump is literally Hitler!

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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:45 pm

Olerand wrote:
San Lumen wrote:We still have elections. Until they are done away with I will not subscribe to your defeatism and extremism

But you need to win those. And Democrats... Well...

And they suck at winning big elections after Obama. This is life and death situation. We must treat this as an invasion and everything we can to destroy it. Yet we can't, because people are too civil and too willing to play by the rules while the enemy destroys everything.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:46 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Olerand wrote:But you need to win those. And Democrats... Well...

And they suck at winning big elections after Obama. This is life and death situation. We must treat this as an invasion and everything we can to destroy it. Yet we can't, because people are too civil and too willing to play by the rules while the enemy destroys everything.

And what are you doing about it other than complaining on here?

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Postby Freezic Vast » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:47 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Olerand wrote:But you need to win those. And Democrats... Well...

And they suck at winning big elections after Obama. This is life and death situation. We must treat this as an invasion and everything we can to destroy it. Yet we can't, because people are too civil and too willing to play by the rules while the enemy destroys everything.

Because they don't have a good platform, or policy, and are spineless cowards, who would want that?

Stop with your hyperbole, this is not life or death, you are just making this shit up and we are frankly fucking tired of it!
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:47 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Olerand wrote:But you need to win those. And Democrats... Well...

And they suck at winning big elections after Obama. This is life and death situation. We must treat this as an invasion and everything we can to destroy it. Yet we can't, because people are too civil and too willing to play by the rules while the enemy destroys everything.


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

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Postby Freezic Vast » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:47 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:And they suck at winning big elections after Obama. This is life and death situation. We must treat this as an invasion and everything we can to destroy it. Yet we can't, because people are too civil and too willing to play by the rules while the enemy destroys everything.

And what are you doing about it other than complaining on here?

Like registering for a campaign in a state as small, blue and irrelevant like RI is gonna do anything.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:48 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
San Lumen wrote:And what are you doing about it other than complaining on here?

Like registering for a campaign in a state as small, blue and irrelevant like RI is gonna do anything.

Yeah why bother even voting if Im not in little town like yours?

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Postby Freezic Vast » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:50 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:Like registering for a campaign in a state as small, blue and irrelevant like RI is gonna do anything.

Yeah why bother even voting if Im not in little town like yours?

Was I talk about you, no, so back the fuck off.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:50 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:Like registering for a campaign in a state as small, blue and irrelevant like RI is gonna do anything.

Yeah why bother even voting if Im not in little town like yours?


Well it would be preferrable if you didn't vote.
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Postby Olerand » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:50 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Olerand wrote:But you need to win those. And Democrats... Well...

And they suck at winning big elections after Obama. This is life and death situation. We must treat this as an invasion and everything we can to destroy it. Yet we can't, because people are too civil and too willing to play by the rules while the enemy destroys everything.

... I don't believe you are the armed faction in the United States, however, non?

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The Flutterlands wrote:And they suck at winning big elections after Obama. This is life and death situation. We must treat this as an invasion and everything we can to destroy it. Yet we can't, because people are too civil and too willing to play by the rules while the enemy destroys everything.

Because they don't have a good platform, or policy, and are spineless cowards, who would want that?

Stop with your hyperbole, this is not life or death, you are just making this shit up and we are frankly fucking tired of it!

For some this very well could be life and death. Life under the far-right is... extremist.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:52 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yeah why bother even voting if Im not in little town like yours?


Well it would be preferrable if you didn't vote.

I could honestly say the same about you. If the Ogberfell decision got overturned tomorrow I dont think you'd care one iota.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:53 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
San Lumen wrote:And what are you doing about it other than complaining on here?

Like registering for a campaign in a state as small, blue and irrelevant like RI is gonna do anything.


Didn't you complain about polarization?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:01 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yeah why bother even voting if Im not in little town like yours?

Was I talk about you, no, so back the fuck off.

Now there is a smart intelligent response, your parents must be proud of you and your education to elucidate such a clear understanding of the topic.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:03 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:Was I talk about you, no, so back the fuck off.

Now there is a smart intelligent response, your parents must be proud of you and your education to elucidate such a clear understanding of the topic.
/sarcasm


It is the era of Trump and the Trump party. :^)
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:05 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Now there is a smart intelligent response, your parents must be proud of you and your education to elucidate such a clear understanding of the topic.
/sarcasm


It is the era of Trump and the Trump party. :^)


As a happy Trump voter, this new era is indeed a good thing. But that is not what I was discussing.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:06 pm

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3944 ... -this-year

Schumer naively still thinks we're a Democracy. Dems have consistently failed to acknowledge the Right has engaged in an all out cultural civil war since Obama won in 2008.

the GOP isn't participating in Democracy, they are demolishing it and establishing a one-party Far Right Dictatorship.

thanks to Chuck, Nancy and Obama's constant calls for civility and appealing for common ground, we are now watching Nazis take full control of our Government.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:06 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
It is the era of Trump and the Trump party. :^)


As a happy Trump voter, this new era is indeed a good thing. But that is not what I was discussing.


Low brow comments aren't part of Trumpism?
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:07 pm

You don't know what fascists or Nazis are Flutters, stop talking about them.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:07 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/394479-schumer-height-of-hypocrisy-to-vote-on-supreme-court-nominee-this-year

Schumer naively still thinks we're a Democracy. Dems have consistently failed to acknowledge the Right has engaged in an all out cultural civil war since Obama won in 2008.

the GOP isn't participating in Democracy, they are demolishing it and establishing a one-party Far Right Dictatorship.

thanks to Chuck, Nancy and Obama's constant calls for civility and appealing for common ground, we are now watching Nazis take full control of our Government.


:rofl:

That's a good one. Got any more hyperbolic bullshit?
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Postby Freezic Vast » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:08 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/394479-schumer-height-of-hypocrisy-to-vote-on-supreme-court-nominee-this-year

Schumer naively still thinks we're a Democracy. Dems have consistently failed to acknowledge the Right has engaged in an all out cultural civil war since Obama won in 2008.

the GOP isn't participating in Democracy, they are demolishing it and establishing a one-party Far Right Dictatorship.

thanks to Chuck, Nancy and Obama's constant calls for civility and appealing for common ground, we are now watching Nazis take full control of our Government.

Because we are still a democracy despite what you think.

Except they haven't.

No they aren't.

"""Nazis take full control of our government"""

Get out, no seriously GTFO, now!
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Postby Olerand » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:08 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/394479-schumer-height-of-hypocrisy-to-vote-on-supreme-court-nominee-this-year

Schumer naively still thinks we're a Democracy. Dems have consistently failed to acknowledge the Right has engaged in an all out cultural civil war since Obama won in 2008.

the GOP isn't participating in Democracy, they are demolishing it and establishing a one-party Far Right Dictatorship.

thanks to Chuck, Nancy and Obama's constant calls for civility and appealing for common ground, we are now watching Nazis take full control of our Government.

Again... Nazism is a specific political ideology. The Republican Party is far-right, of that there is 0 doubt. But not Nazi nor fascist.

As to Schumer... Well, pathetic really. What's new.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:08 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:You don't know what fascists or Nazis are Flutters, stop talking about them.

The Republican party is the closest thing we have to Nazis being in the highest point of power.
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